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Trent-Jim relationship issues? (pure conjecture...reading the tea leaves)

  • Jcool
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Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
The first time GM was hired first specifically to hire the coach. Both went on to win the annual award. The front office built a roster that only needed to get better at QB. Harbaugh fixed that and we took off. The GM had a better roster than the Ravens last year but the coach didn't run the ball from second and five. Now I happen to think both men are indispensable and that personnel evaluators should acquire talent and the coaches should coach and develop the talent. We need both guys

Baalke was hired as GM January 4th and Harbaugh was hired January 7th... So he was hired to conduct a 1-2 day coaching search?

if i re-call at that time, baalke's only goal was to get jim harbaugh

I think we can credit Jed York more then Baalke with that.
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by susweel:
james is not a good player, if he was then he would playing more.

Sorry man. Total BS. Ask Seattle about Christine Michael. Exact same situation.

i tried but Seattle isnt taking my calls....b*****ds


They don't communicate by phone....just plane banners over stadiums.
Originally posted by KegBert:
This, Jim and Trent don't get along, theory will end up in the garbage just like Jim going to Texas. The media's just doing its job, they have to stir the pot to get views, doesn't mean you have to buy into all of it though.

well, the media isn't the one stirring the pot, someone else is stirring the pot by leaking stuff to kawakami, he's just reporting it

this regime has been leak proof for 3yrs..this is the first leak into the inner workings of this regime.

remember when we had dingleberry "there is a rat in the building" hahaha there were so many leaks
Originally posted by iLL49er:
michael is a nut job..james is ok. he lacks vision and explosiveness necessary to be successful in tight situations..he's good in the open field. but a lot of players are.

a frustrating part of his punt returning is he alwasy heads towards the sidelines, there are huge openings of grass on cut backs across the field but james never takes them. he doesn't have superior vision

I noticed that too. Doesn't matter what's going on in the middle of the field, he runs to the nearest sideline and hugs it till he's tackled or forced out. I think he might be a little scared.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
The first time GM was hired first specifically to hire the coach. Both went on to win the annual award. The front office built a roster that only needed to get better at QB. Harbaugh fixed that and we took off. The GM had a better roster than the Ravens last year but the coach didn't run the ball from second and five. Now I happen to think both men are indispensable and that personnel evaluators should acquire talent and the coaches should coach and develop the talent. We need both guys

Baalke was hired as GM January 4th and Harbaugh was hired January 7th... So he was hired to conduct a 1-2 day coaching search?

if i re-call at that time, baalke's only goal was to get jim harbaugh

I think we can credit Jed York more then Baalke with that.

why? baalke is the one who sat up for hours talking football w/ harbaugh and got harbaugh to buy in
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
This, Jim and Trent don't get along, theory will end up in the garbage just like Jim going to Texas. The media's just doing its job, they have to stir the pot to get views, doesn't mean you have to buy into all of it though.

well, the media isn't the one stirring the pot, someone else is stirring the pot by leaking stuff to kawakami, he's just reporting it

this regime has been leak proof for 3yrs..this is the first leak into the inner workings of this regime.

remember when we had dingleberry "there is a rat in the building" hahaha there were so many leaks

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but tell me why I should dive right in and believe Timmy K and this unnamed "source" when TK already has a history of stirring up s**t?
  • buck
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Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by susweel:
james is not a good player, if he was then he would playing more.

Sorry man. Total BS. Ask Seattle about Christine Michael. Exact same situation.

michael is a nut job..james is ok. he lacks vision and explosiveness necessary to be successful in tight situations..he's good in the open field. but a lot of players are.

a frustrating part of his punt returning is he alwasy heads towards the sidelines, there are huge openings of grass on cut backs across the field but james never takes them. he doesn't have superior vision

James has not been returning punts for very long.
He had 14 punt returns in college. He has 18 returns this year.

There is a good chance that he will improve as he gets more experience.
  • Jcool
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Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
The first time GM was hired first specifically to hire the coach. Both went on to win the annual award. The front office built a roster that only needed to get better at QB. Harbaugh fixed that and we took off. The GM had a better roster than the Ravens last year but the coach didn't run the ball from second and five. Now I happen to think both men are indispensable and that personnel evaluators should acquire talent and the coaches should coach and develop the talent. We need both guys

Baalke was hired as GM January 4th and Harbaugh was hired January 7th... So he was hired to conduct a 1-2 day coaching search?

if i re-call at that time, baalke's only goal was to get jim harbaugh

I think we can credit Jed York more then Baalke with that.

why? baalke is the one who sat up for hours talking football w/ harbaugh and got harbaugh to buy in

"Jed talked about his vision," Harbaugh said on the day he was hired, "and that sealed the deal."
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
This, Jim and Trent don't get along, theory will end up in the garbage just like Jim going to Texas. The media's just doing its job, they have to stir the pot to get views, doesn't mean you have to buy into all of it though.

well, the media isn't the one stirring the pot, someone else is stirring the pot by leaking stuff to kawakami, he's just reporting it

this regime has been leak proof for 3yrs..this is the first leak into the inner workings of this regime.

remember when we had dingleberry "there is a rat in the building" hahaha there were so many leaks

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but tell me why I should dive right in and believe Timmy K and this unnamed "source" when TK already has a history of stirring up s**t?

he's been on point on all his stuff w/ the new regime, i've been paying attention he's definitely tied in w/ some good sources w/ this regime.

maiocco used to be the one breaking all these things under the previous regime
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
This, Jim and Trent don't get along, theory will end up in the garbage just like Jim going to Texas. The media's just doing its job, they have to stir the pot to get views, doesn't mean you have to buy into all of it though.

well, the media isn't the one stirring the pot, someone else is stirring the pot by leaking stuff to kawakami, he's just reporting it

this regime has been leak proof for 3yrs..this is the first leak into the inner workings of this regime.

remember when we had dingleberry "there is a rat in the building" hahaha there were so many leaks

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but tell me why I should dive right in and believe Timmy K and this unnamed "source" when TK already has a history of stirring up s**t?

he's been on point on all his stuff w/ the new regime, i've been paying attention he's definitely tied in w/ some good sources w/ this regime.

maiocco used to be the one breaking all these things under the previous regime


TK is a hack. He's the new Skip Bayless. He does and says stuff just to get attention. He may have something from time to time but he'll always skew it the way he wants the story told.
If Harbs made all the roster decisions, we'd be in bad shape if you go by all the guys he wanted to bring back (Goldson, Moss, Morgan, etc.)

I hope Harbs next contract doesn't allow him to muck with the roster
Originally posted by Jcool:
Baalke was hired as GM January 4th and Harbaugh was hired January 7th... So he was hired to conduct a 1-2 day coaching search?
Its what Jed said. His belief was that the owner should pick the GM and the GM should pick the coach. This is the structure Jed York was after and I believe it to be the correct one. There is no Jerrah World stuff going on over here. It's the right way to do things. Baalke will know much more about today's prospects than Harbaugh knew about yesterday's. Trent in on the road scouting still while Harbaugh is busy coaching to win. Harbaugh college recruits are playing in the NFL by now and I believe Trent has the better eye on things as of now in the collegiate ranks
Originally posted by Marvin49:
TK is a hack. He's the new Skip Bayless. He does and says stuff just to get attention. He may have something from time to time but he'll always skew it the way he wants the story told.

completely wrong but we can agree to disagree...

Tim's reporting on this new regime has been the most on point

also, it wasn't a coincidence that early this season it was Tim who asked harbaugh about an extension at the press conference, he has sources he's the first one who got wind of this

he's been very very tapped in to this regime
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
This, Jim and Trent don't get along, theory will end up in the garbage just like Jim going to Texas. The media's just doing its job, they have to stir the pot to get views, doesn't mean you have to buy into all of it though.

well, the media isn't the one stirring the pot, someone else is stirring the pot by leaking stuff to kawakami, he's just reporting it

this regime has been leak proof for 3yrs..this is the first leak into the inner workings of this regime.

remember when we had dingleberry "there is a rat in the building" hahaha there were so many leaks

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but tell me why I should dive right in and believe Timmy K and this unnamed "source" when TK already has a history of stirring up s**t?

he's been on point on all his stuff w/ the new regime, i've been paying attention he's definitely tied in w/ some good sources w/ this regime.

maiocco used to be the one breaking all these things under the previous regime


TK is a hack. He's the new Skip Bayless. He does and says stuff just to get attention. He may have something from time to time but he'll always skew it the way he wants the story told.

I don't think he's a hack. He's a bit of a muckraker, but that's his job. There could very well be some fire behind the smoke, but it's not even close to a signal that they're a dysfunctional management/coaching team. They disagree sometimes. BFD.

What am I missing here? . . .
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I don't think he's a hack. He's a bit of a muckraker, but that's his job. There could very well be some fire behind the smoke, but it's not even close to a signal that they're a dysfunctional management/coaching team. They disagree sometimes. BFD.

What am I missing here? . . .

agree and tim stated just as much he didn't say there is some big rift

there is a power struggle, harbs wants some more say in personnel, he doesn't like some of the players baalke has picked