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WR Laurent Robinson is working out for the #49ers tomorrow

Originally posted by vermonator:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Man, we just cannot get a break at the WR position!!

What is even more frustrating, is that Crabtree, who finally distinguished himself with Kaepernick as a number one receiver, is a free agent next year and I think it's fair to say that he doesn't want to come back unless we pay him Jerry Rice money.

There's no way he will sign for Jerry Rice money lol.
Originally posted by LAFortyNinerfan:
Originally posted by vermonator:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Man, we just cannot get a break at the WR position!!

What is even more frustrating, is that Crabtree, who finally distinguished himself with Kaepernick as a number one receiver, is a free agent next year and I think it's fair to say that he doesn't want to come back unless we pay him Jerry Rice money.

There's no way he will sign for Jerry Rice money lol.

Also I believe he is a free agent AFTER next year. I might be wrong but I think he likes being a Niner (unlike a certain overhyped safety we shall not name).
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Originally posted by sanjo49er:
FORMER COWBOY? NO THX!!!

narrow minded, who cares if he can help us and give boldin a break here in pre season so the guy does not run out of gas late in the season
Robinson is good at one thing, going deep. Im all for bringing him in and competing, dont think he makes the roster though unless he comes in and just takes over. Hall and Moore have worked themselves into a good position and may kick Lockette to the PS for another year.
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
For you guys (Rascal & Cc) can I hear some reasonable suggestions about how to fix the perceived problems instead of just a rant? I think we will be fine with Boldin, Mario and Williams until Crabtrees is healthy. I also want to remind you fellas that wide receivers are the biggest gamble in the draft. They usually take a couple or three years to get up to speed, and indeed some never do. It is not as big a deal as some are making it, and acting like the coaching staff and front office of this team doesn't understand what is going on as well as you do is just plain deluded.

uhm, i have said sign robinson to get us through pre season. sure we may be "fine" later in the year but as of right now, we got three healthy wide outs with one of them on the wrong side of 30 and we have yet to even play a game. you sign robinson or someone like him who has a decent nfl resume and not some taxi squad bum. by the first game of the regular season you hope at least kyle is fine and at least two of the kids. if not or if robinson does well enuff in pre season to earn a spot you keep him. you are putting alot of words in my mouth, i have said i am glad to see the niners are doing something about this, i defended JH from a poster saying JH was to blame for this. I am sorry but as I said, you are down to three healthy wide outs, one on the wrong side of 30 and we have yet to play a pre season game,,,,, we are not "fine", its not tragic but it should be a concern to all. It must be a concern to JH and front office as reports say they are looking to sign this guy.
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by sanjo49er:
FORMER COWBOY? NO THX!!!

Ken Norton Jr says hi!

Larry Allen as well!
Originally posted by buck:
Make no mistake the combined receiving numbers for Boldin and Crabtree can be misleading.

SF was 11th in overall offense, 4th in rushing offense, 11th in scoring offense, and only 23rd in passing offense.

Without a doubt, the 49ers passing attack needs improvement. But, pretending that the team has made no effort to improve is inane,

In the past two years, the team has added Manningham and Boldin. The team's play at quarterback has improved greatly. t

edit: I forget to mention that Baalke and Harbaugh have literally reconstructed our offensive line. Davis, Iupati, Boone, and Goodwin. 4/5 of the offensive line, are the Baalke/Harbaugh additions. And yes, the offensive line does have just a little to do with the passing game.

If you look at Baalke and Harbaugh's efforts to improve our passing solely through Jenkins-tinted-lenses, you vision is going to be substantially blurred.

At the same time, the list of top receiving tandems can be misleading.

Atlanta, which has the top wide receiver duo, was only 6th in passing offense.

Three of the top passing offense, Dallas at 3rd, New England at 4th, Denver at 5th, were not on the list of top five wide receiver tandems.

The Giants, 3rd on the top tandems list, was only 12th in passing offense and the Steelers, 5th on the list were 14th in passing offense.


I think the frustration comes from fans becoming more involved in the entire team process. How many fans get involved with mock drafts/college players every year? Way more than there used to be. SO--- when WR becomes a glaring team need, and the team makes no concerted efforts to improve this (with high picks of known quantities) then fans get upset...

case in point--- everyone mocked Ruben Randle to us 2 years ago because it was a need and he was slotted to go low 1 high 2... and we all know what happened... Randle is playing well and AJ cant stay on his feet...

I'm more into fixing it with volume. Kinda like when we picked Iupati and Davis in the first.... lets pick 2-3 WRs every damn year until someone sticks!!!
Robinson is one of several they'll have work out...agree, a couple of years ago he looked like a budding young star w/Dallas. Not so great in Jacksonville, but then look at their QB situation. I see some of you practically bashing Hall...don't sell him short. He worked very hard in the off-season and developed a rapport w/Kap. Look at what our QB's saying about him..."he gets open". Outside of Boldin, he has far and away more catches than his fellow WR's.
Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
I think the frustration comes from fans becoming more involved in the entire team process. How many fans get involved with mock drafts/college players every year? Way more than there used to be. SO--- when WR becomes a glaring team need, and the team makes no concerted efforts to improve this (with high picks of known quantities) then fans get upset...

case in point--- everyone mocked Ruben Randle to us 2 years ago because it was a need and he was slotted to go low 1 high 2... and we all know what happened... Randle is playing well and AJ cant stay on his feet...

I'm more into fixing it with volume. Kinda like when we picked Iupati and Davis in the first.... lets pick 2-3 WRs every damn year until someone sticks!!!

See but thats a contradiction... at one point fans are saying the team didnt address its needs but then stating that the team did address the need but didnt pick the player the fans wanted. The team has made efforts every offseason to address receiver, its just bad luck. Fans who say "well we should of drafted (insert player here)" are deluding themselves. Hindsight is 20/20 but at the time everything is an unknown. Posters need to stop cherry picking which position and players they want to bash and realize that as a whole our roster is stacked. No one drafts with 100% success but we are doing pretty damn good so far under the new regime.
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
I think the frustration comes from fans becoming more involved in the entire team process. How many fans get involved with mock drafts/college players every year? Way more than there used to be. SO--- when WR becomes a glaring team need, and the team makes no concerted efforts to improve this (with high picks of known quantities) then fans get upset...

case in point--- everyone mocked Ruben Randle to us 2 years ago because it was a need and he was slotted to go low 1 high 2... and we all know what happened... Randle is playing well and AJ cant stay on his feet...

I'm more into fixing it with volume. Kinda like when we picked Iupati and Davis in the first.... lets pick 2-3 WRs every damn year until someone sticks!!!

See but thats a contradiction... at one point fans are saying the team didnt address its needs but then stating that the team did address the need but didnt pick the player the fans wanted. The team has made efforts every offseason to address receiver, its just bad luck. Fans who say "well we should of drafted (insert player here)" are deluding themselves. Hindsight is 20/20 but at the time everything is an unknown. Posters need to stop cherry picking which position and players they want to bash and realize that as a whole our roster is stacked. No one drafts with 100% success but we are doing pretty damn good so far under the new regime.

you are right, of course. We are stacked and that is because our FO rules. But sometimes, even the best people miss a layup. NOT taking AJ in the first was a layup. He wasn't rated high by anyone. When he was picked, the announcers didn't even have tape of him. Even AJ had said he was surprised to be taken in the first. that was a huge miss at a glaring position of need since TO left, and thats a long time ago (Crabtree notwithstanding)
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Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
I think the frustration comes from fans becoming more involved in the entire team process. How many fans get involved with mock drafts/college players every year? Way more than there used to be. SO--- when WR becomes a glaring team need, and the team makes no concerted efforts to improve this (with high picks of known quantities) then fans get upset...

case in point--- everyone mocked Ruben Randle to us 2 years ago because it was a need and he was slotted to go low 1 high 2... and we all know what happened... Randle is playing well and AJ cant stay on his feet...

I'm more into fixing it with volume. Kinda like when we picked Iupati and Davis in the first.... lets pick 2-3 WRs every damn year until someone sticks!!!

I wanted us to draft two wide receivers last year. We only drafted one. I like Patton and we picked up Boldin.

The team did not do exactly what I wanted, but I am freaking out about it.

Extremism in defense of liberty may be a virture, but extremism against, or for, any draft pick, borders on idiotic.

I would like us to draft at least one wide receiver next year, but I am not about to insist that we use a first round pick on a wide receiver.
[ Edited by buck on Aug 1, 2013 at 10:27 AM ]
Originally posted by VDSF:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by sanjo49er:
FORMER COWBOY? NO THX!!!

Ken Norton Jr says hi!

Larry Allen as well!

kevin Gogan
Deon Sanders.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
kevin Gogan
Deon Sanders.

Deion is the opposite... went from 49ers to Cowboys, but really when I think of Deion, I see him as a Falcon.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by VDSF:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by sanjo49er:
FORMER COWBOY? NO THX!!!

Ken Norton Jr says hi!

Larry Allen as well!

kevin Gogan
Deon Sanders.

Deion Sanders? Which way you moving in time, forwards or backwards?
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Originally posted by buck:
I wanted us to draft two wide receivers last year. We only drafted one. I like Patton and we picked up Boldin.

The team did not do exactly what I wanted, but I am freaking out about it.

I would like us to draft at least one wide receiver next year, but I am not about to insist that we use a first round pick on a wide receiver.

i hate drafting wide outs with a number one pick, always have, always will. I guess it goes back to woods. hell while he was not worth it, at least jj caught 63 balls for us one year. I would have settled for that with woods and would more than happy with that type of production from jenkins
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