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Which Remaining 3 WRs Will Make The 53-man Roster ?

Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
Why have Williams as the #2? He's not even close to the same caliber receiver Collie is. They should be reversed, Collie would produce a lot more as the 2 than Williams. He runs better routes, better hands and size and also has quite a nack for making tough catches anywhere on the field.

Collie is a nice Wr who had a productive 1st three years in the league but he was a street free agent who was out of football last year and is one big hit from being retired. On top of that he has to learn a new offense in three weeks. I think right now it's as likely collie doesn't make the team as it is he becomes our 2nd Wr.

Everybody is one big hit from being retired. This is a silly argument. I agree with your other points, however.
Originally posted by xtm059:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
Why have Williams as the #2? He's not even close to the same caliber receiver Collie is. They should be reversed, Collie would produce a lot more as the 2 than Williams. He runs better routes, better hands and size and also has quite a nack for making tough catches anywhere on the field.

Collie is a nice Wr who had a productive 1st three years in the league but he was a street free agent who was out of football last year and is one big hit from being retired. On top of that he has to learn a new offense in three weeks. I think right now it's as likely collie doesn't make the team as it is he becomes our 2nd Wr.

Everybody is one big hit from being retired. This is a silly argument. I agree with your other points, however.

Collie has a history of severe concussions. Lots of experts think he should retire already. Does not seem like a silly argument to me.
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"Patton is a rookie so we can give him a little more time"

We'll do that by cutting him for Ricardo Lockette
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by xtm059:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
Why have Williams as the #2? He's not even close to the same caliber receiver Collie is. They should be reversed, Collie would produce a lot more as the 2 than Williams. He runs better routes, better hands and size and also has quite a nack for making tough catches anywhere on the field.

Collie is a nice Wr who had a productive 1st three years in the league but he was a street free agent who was out of football last year and is one big hit from being retired. On top of that he has to learn a new offense in three weeks. I think right now it's as likely collie doesn't make the team as it is he becomes our 2nd Wr.

Everybody is one big hit from being retired. This is a silly argument. I agree with your other points, however.

Collie has a history of severe concussions. Lots of experts think he should retire already. Does not seem like a silly argument to me.

Last season he was on the Colts roster, he didn't miss last season because of a concussion. He had season ending surgery to repair a torn patella tendon. I'm not worried about him getting a concussion, the farther away the last one, the less likely another will occur. The Colts released him sometime later after his surgery as far as I can recall.
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
Last season he was on the Colts roster, he didn't miss last season because of a concussion. He had season ending surgery to repair a torn patella tendon. I'm not worried about him getting a concussion, the farther away the last one, the less likely another will occur. The Colts released him sometime later after his surgery as far as I can recall.

I agree with this. Right now Collie is the Niners second best (and PROVEN) receiver. By far.
Not to knock on Williams, but in, what, 3 years he has put up less than 300 yds receiving? Some receivers can darned near do that in one game.
Yet some are projecting him as #2 on this team? Seriously? I can safely project that there is NO CHANCE that he's the team's # 2. Because the Niners would be in trouble, and criminally negligently so, if that were the case.

Now watch Collie get cut.
[ Edited by Rsrkshn on Aug 12, 2013 at 2:03 AM ]
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by xtm059:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
Why have Williams as the #2? He's not even close to the same caliber receiver Collie is. They should be reversed, Collie would produce a lot more as the 2 than Williams. He runs better routes, better hands and size and also has quite a nack for making tough catches anywhere on the field.

Collie is a nice Wr who had a productive 1st three years in the league but he was a street free agent who was out of football last year and is one big hit from being retired. On top of that he has to learn a new offense in three weeks. I think right now it's as likely collie doesn't make the team as it is he becomes our 2nd Wr.

Everybody is one big hit from being retired. This is a silly argument. I agree with your other points, however.

Collie has a history of severe concussions. Lots of experts think he should retire already. Does not seem like a silly argument to me.

Lots of experts? Like the 49ers team doctor who works at Stanford and is a leader in the field who said he can play? As well as all the other team doctors and specialists who have told him he can play? Reference your "lots of experts" or don't make blanket statements like that. Collie is no idiot, if he was risking his health he wouldn't be out there. I know this because I know him and his family.

And to stay more on topic, as it stands he probably is the best choice for #2. He's proven, and he's played with Manning.
Originally posted by trogdor:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by xtm059:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
Why have Williams as the #2? He's not even close to the same caliber receiver Collie is. They should be reversed, Collie would produce a lot more as the 2 than Williams. He runs better routes, better hands and size and also has quite a nack for making tough catches anywhere on the field.

Collie is a nice Wr who had a productive 1st three years in the league but he was a street free agent who was out of football last year and is one big hit from being retired. On top of that he has to learn a new offense in three weeks. I think right now it's as likely collie doesn't make the team as it is he becomes our 2nd Wr.

Everybody is one big hit from being retired. This is a silly argument. I agree with your other points, however.

Collie has a history of severe concussions. Lots of experts think he should retire already. Does not seem like a silly argument to me.

Lots of experts? Like the 49ers team doctor who works at Stanford and is a leader in the field who said he can play? As well as all the other team doctors and specialists who have told him he can play? Reference your "lots of experts" or don't make blanket statements like that. Collie is no idiot, if he was risking his health he wouldn't be out there. I know this because I know him and his family.

And to stay more on topic, as it stands he probably is the best choice for #2. He's proven, and he's played with Manning.

Experts say things like: "He can play but should be concerned..." There was a show on the tube last night about some teams using helmets that record the intensity of hits so players can be taken out after moderately hard hits. This should become a standard in all of tackle football, including the NFL. Doctors tend to make less than declarative statements when it comes to concussions, but rather give percentages and options. I think Collie is a risk due to the number of concussions it takes to become a severe health risk. He's had most of his quota.

Also, if memory serves, many players have decided to retire after they were cleared to play because they knew how badly they were affected by concussions...but they were cleared medically. This is a serious subject and not off target any more than Williams' knee or Crabtree's foot. Just another thing to consider.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Aug 12, 2013 at 6:45 AM ]
Originally posted by BadgerHawk:

So...
Boldin
Williams
Collie
Moore
Jenkins
Patton
Manningham*

Right now, I think that looks about right. You didn't mention about the order, but I think that spots 2 - 4 will not be set for the first few regular season games. My bet is that after Boldin there will be 3 wr's who are put into the game without there being much priority. I think those three are likely to be Williams, Collie and Patton. As the season progresses, I wouldn't be surprised if Collie or Patton begin to move ahead and become the regular #2.
[ Edited by 49erphan on Aug 12, 2013 at 7:49 AM ]
I really don't wan't to see Hall or Lockette cut, just to go somewhere else and be successful.

1. Boldin
2. M. Moore ( the only thing he doesn't have is a popular name that people notice)
3. K. Williams
4. A.J Jenkins
5. Q. Patton
6. Hall

I wish Lockette would come out and dominate, but I can't figure out what's holding him back. What about when Manningham and Crabtree come back down the road, who gets cut, everyone see's receiver as a problem but I think we have a lot of good ones, too many actually. A good players is going to get cut. Everybody pickin collie because he's a noticeable name, but the unheard of's emerge as stars every year. Wes Welker was a nobody, then boom, and I see that from Chad Hall!
[ Edited by ninertribe004 on Aug 12, 2013 at 7:57 AM ]
1. Boldin
2. Williams
3. Collie
4. Lockette
5. Jenkins
6. Patton

PUP - Crabtree, Ham

Chad Hall is just the camp darling. the dude uses his NFC Championship ring to pick up chicks. how embarrassing.
Anquan
Kyle
Austin
Moore
Patton
Lockette
Anquan
kyle
Collie
Hall
Patton
Moore
Lockette
AJ

Right now, anyone of these guys if cut, will almost surely start somewhere else. It would be a shame to cut any of these guys, and whoever we cut will almost surely catch on somewhere else. Sure be nice to stockpile some WRs with our bad luck injuries to WRs. But chances of all 8 staying are zero. Worse, when crbs returns, one of these left will get cut...and then start somewhere else.

this is the one disadvantage of being loaded with talent. Our cuts start elsewhere.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Aug 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM ]
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Anquan
kyle
Collie
Hall
Patton
Moore
Lockette
AJ

Right now, anyone of these guys if cut, will almost surely start somewhere else. It would be a shame to cut any of these guys, and whoever we cut will almost surely catch on somewhere else. Sure be nice to stockpile some WRs with our bad luck injuries to WRs. But chances of all 8 staying are zero. Worse, when crbs returns, one of these left will get cut...and then start somewhere else.

this is the one disadvantage of being loaded with talent. Our cuts start elsewhere.

i think you're seriously overestimating the amount of talent between that group of recievers.

It will be an awkward situation at kaepernick's apartment when lockette gets cut
Originally posted by Ether:
"Patton is a rookie so we can give him a little more time"

We'll do that by cutting him for Ricardo Lockette

sounds good to me
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
Originally posted by Ether:
"Patton is a rookie so we can give him a little more time"

We'll do that by cutting him for Ricardo Lockette

sounds good to me

sounds good to me as well. i know lockette was the WZ's darling this offseason but it looks like there was a good reason seattle cut him
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