Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Whitner and Carlos taking a beating from the Zone doe
Whitner in coverage and Carlos at NCB, yes.. taking a beating. You disagree?
Yes, I do. Whitner is being taken advantage of by his SS position in the red zone because of his duel responsibility in run AND coverage. Whitner is a typical NFL SS, where you want that strength and physical durability to take on RB, sometimes along with the linebackers. He also has enough speed and mobility to take on coverage. If he is asked to purely goes in coverage in the redzone, I would think he would do well. But he is also asked to diagnose run plays to back the linebackers. That gif is case in point -- where he cleaned up for Bowman ( also the Saints playoff game of 2011) Those 6"6 TE will give anyone trouble around the goal line and red zone. Not just Whitner. It's not so much that Whitner's play is lacking, it's more of the changing NFL by attacking the SS position with big mobile TE, knowing that SS has to watch for the run responsibility also.
As to Carlos, he is asked to play the slot receiver. Just by the alignment of the slot receiver, you know they have more room to go either left or right out of the slot. To run any number on the route tree. As compared to the left or right receiver being closer to the sideline, that sideline can be a CB's 'friend'. Carlos has to trail, can't be too aggressive, and often victim of 'pick' plays. Coaches usually want a good vet CB to play the slot since they have the savvy to kinda react quickly to where the slot receiver will go.
The way I see it, both guys more of a victim by what's required from their position, than the perceived lack of talent.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:56 AM ]