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Read Option WON'T catch teams by surprise this year

I think there will be two situations where the read-option will be called. The inside the 10 (inside redzone) and during the playoffs.
Originally posted by iLL49er:
one good point made in this article is that once these guys get their 2nd contract their respective teams will prefer they aren't exposed to hits as much because of the investment of huge money in their star qb's..

That is a really good point. I'm curious to see how RGIII will be used this year.
If teams around the league's gameplan is to beat us by simply stopping the read option, we are going to shread defenses all year long. I can only HOPE they dedicate their entire offseason to stopping that. Kaep can stand in the pocket and be Marino like circa 1984 with that arm of his. Good luck (not really) to any defensive coordinator trying to slow/shut down this offense.
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The issue is NOT whether teams will be more ready for the read option, its what are they going to do about the threat of the read option within the Pistol formation. Unfortunately, most fans and too many "experts" talk about the read-option as if it and the Pistol formation are one in the same. They aren't. If the ends spy the QB, the 49ers have a numbers advantage in their power running game. If the ends crash and pursue the RB, Kap can take off running. And, that doesn't even count running play action off power run and/or read-option looks from the Pistol.

And, lets not forget, even if a team prepares for the read option, that doesn't mean play to play that the 49ers offense won't out execute the defense or that the defense won't blow assignments, especially given the multiple formations/looks the 49ers give, which should increase even more with Mangini self-scouting the offense.

Two other considerations as well...

(1) Roman and the 49ers offense adjusted to using the pistol and the read-option on the fly last year after Smith's injury. Neither was used much (or at all) prior to Smith's injury. Now, they have had the entire off-season to work on and incorporate it into the entire offense. That's going to make a difference in execution for the 49ers offense.

(2) Kap could get hurt and probably will at some point in his career, as do all QBs, but comparing him to RG3 is not a fair comparison. RG3 is small by NFL QB standards these days and had an injury history coming into the NFL. Kap is so much bigger and stronger and does not have the same injury history as RG3. Of the 4 QBs talked about -- Kap, RG3, Newton and Wilson -- the one least likely to get hurt is Kap. RG3 and Wilson are just smaller and not as physical. Newton is big as well but he takes a lot more hits because Carolina does not have the same weapons around him and most of their short yardage and goal line packages revolve around Newton running the ball.

The threat of the read-option out of the Pistol will be enough to give the 49ers offense an advantage. Show me an article about the league catching up to the Pistol and perhaps then I will be concerned.
Why would it need to catch anyone by surprise? You either commit to the QB or the RB up the gut and then the QB decides which way he can beat you. There isn't anything surprising about it. Teams knew this last year.
I doubt very seriously if it snuck up on anyone besides the bears.
Command , in response to your observation re: RG 3, I have posted elsewhere that I don't expect shanny to expose him on run/option plays. I think the medical history has already been written on RG3, and shanny is betting his job on RG3 staying healthy. Watch and see RG3 become a very adequate pocket passer, who escapes out of the pocket at times, but not often. To turn RG3 loose to me is just plain nuts. Much as I love to watch the guy, an incredible talent, dance and dodge much bigger defenders, the repeat knee injuries, this time a double dose, does not bode well for his long term stay in the nfl. You know the saying NFL...not for long. Well that is going to be RG3 if shanny puts him in run/option most of the time. I just don't see him doing that, because without RG, the skins got nuthin'. And if RG is injured, shanny won't last after this yr in Washington.

To be honest, I likewise think Coach H has taken notes on RG3, his injuries, and subsequent team outcome. Without RG, Skins are nothing. Without Kap....well, we could compete, but NFCC and SB? Highly unlikely, and don't think for a minute that Coach H hasn't noticed. That is one reason why I can't wait for season to start...to see how JH handles Kap and the running issue. At least last yr, Coach got Kap to quit trying to run over LBs and slide instead. Same goes for going out of bounds vs staying in, getting a few more yards and some nasty licks. I don't like saying this but I look for Kap to be moving more toward a pocket passer with escape ability , but not running as a steady diet. That 600 yds running in 7 games? I don't think so this yr. Kap is just too valuable to put him out there running over LBs. Let frank, kyle, LMJ, Dixon, due that. Now, the THREAT of Kap taking off...many times that alone will freeze the OLBs , or DBs if playing up close. So the threat alone is good enough in many cases. Then when kap does take off, well, it is sure exciting, but I always cross my fingers and pray he slides.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Jul 12, 2013 at 9:28 AM ]
Seems that those stand tall in the pocket types take worse hits. At least when you are running you can have a chance to slip the hit a bit. Rice was good at this and played a long time. Vick, fast as can be and elusive just gets lit up every time it seems, and is always hurt.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
one good point made in this article is that once these guys get their 2nd contract their respective teams will prefer they aren't exposed to hits as much because of the investment of huge money in their star qb's..

That is a really good point. I'm curious to see how RGIII will be used this year.

I don't really understand the premise here... the Redskins mortgaged their entire future for RGIII, he wasn't cheap for his first contract. I think he'll be used much more differently this year.
Couldn't disagree more. Fact of the matter is only a few teams are running the read option. Opposing teams are not going to spend much time (maybe the week before hand) stopping it because it's not very prevalent.
our pistol offense will be like a 1980's roger clemens fastball ...they know it's coming, but cant do nothing about it to stop it
Originally posted by kem99:
Unfortunately, most fans and too many "experts" talk about the read-option as if it and the Pistol formation are one in the same.
Show me an article about the league catching up to the Pistol and perhaps then I will be concerned.

This!
The pistol is not the same as the read option...

That being said our pistol offense will be hard to stop. It allows us to put 2 TE's, 2 RB's and our best receiver on the field and force a defensive coordinator to choose to defend the run or the pass. If they choose run and put in bigger defenders, we audible and motion VD and VM out wide as receivers, keep Miller in to block and then have LMJ/Hunter/Gore run a short route with plenty of space with 2 of those mentioned lined up one on one against line backers. If they choose to defend pass, then keep everyone in tight and just run the defense over. Its gonna be fun to watch!
I'm sure NFL defenses would love it if we stopped running read option plays.

I just want Roman to stop running stupid plays period. I can't say there is any "system" we really run...it's just that quite often Roman's play calls are quite ill-conceived
[ Edited by kray28 on Jul 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM ]
the read option will never die, its so deadly against defenses when it is used for play action, OMg VD and Moss and Crabs were open by 5 to 10 yards a bunch of times last season, once Kape gets more reps and develops a tad more accuracy, he is literally gonna be unstoppable. Im serious