Originally posted by leon49:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
They also try to credit that most of his sacks came late in games when opponants were deperate in passing situations. Irony in it all is almost half of his sacks came from behind raymac not Smith. I think in the reaction video Sapp explained it really well where Watt is a great pass rusher due to strength Miller is a great pass rusher due to speed and Smith is the perfect combo of both.
Below is a post from a guy i've been arguing with in how he thinks Aldon shouldn't be in the top 10 let alone the top 75. I mentioned the torn labrum and he said this:
"Honestly, before I saw JJ do what he did with one arm...if it did he must just be less of a player than JJ. The point is that JJ found a way to do his thing & they kept using him the same way all season even after the elbow went south. Aldon just...disappeared......Both lost the use of an arm. One remained a force from a point that isn't supposed to be a position of def pressure while the other essentially disappeared. One belongs in the top 10 the other doesn't. It's just that simple. I don't watch a lot of 9er ball but the national games I do get to see & Aldon, other than that crazy Monday nighter against the Bears, was not even on the radar as far as plays consistently made for all the discussion about him during the games. So not finishing is okay in the top 10 for the NFL? Oh, okay. If that's the case I can put another 9 OLB into this category as well...how about Clay Matthews? He was more consistent all season & he didn't have anybody helping him with stats. Imagine what he could have done next to Justin with Navarro & Pat behind him. Just like several of the 9ers who made this list, kid has crazy potential but this list isn't supposed to be about potential. It's supposed to be about consistent production."
What I don't get with these arguments is that in the ultimate team sport you need to be a team player and help each other in some way. To play well selflessly and one as a team is the only way to reach the SB. But when we rank players individually in the Top 100 it is suddenly a knock against a player that he has help from those around him or that he plays on a stacked team. The players who are then highly touted are the ones who do well on bad teams, who have no help, and basically carry the team alone like Luck and RG3. Is it really Aldon's fault that he is on a talented team? What is he supposed to do suddenly focus on his own stats? It's the same kind of argument against Montana and currently Kaep.
The idea that Aldon disappeared is the greatest myth of the year.
Getting to a quarterback and pulling him down requires a lot of different factors. If the quarterback has an outlet he can be impossible to sack. If he has no outlet, he might get sacked every play. Look at the Bears with Martz's offense. That offense has few outlets, it depends on the O-line to hold up. If they don't, the quarterback can't easily get rid of the ball. That's why Aldon went banana's against the Bears. Aldon applied a lot of pressure against other teams, but those teams were smart enough to scheme against him, and get rid of the ball with two and three step drops.
Aldon is still a much more raw player than either JJ Watt or Von Miller. Aldon plays the classic 3-4 OLB position. Watt and Miller play different positions that are not classic pass rushing positions. The league has a lot more experience scheming against the classic 3-4 OLB. I think they are all equal players, but I think Aldon still has the best upside for growth because he is still learning to transition to linebacker. All three of them deserve to be in the top ten.