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Arizona is jizzing Peter North loads over Honey Badger.

Honey Badger vs Reid as top safety in the class of 2013?
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Arizona is jizzing Peter North loads over Honey Badger.

Honey Badger vs Reid as top safety in the class of 2013?


Can't wait for Mathieu to test positive for drugs again
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Can't wait for Mathieu to test positive for drugs again

When the Cards come to play us we need to have a hot-ass call girl with a bag waiting for him outside the Telly ala Lawrence Taylor.
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by xtm059:
I think wilson can be compared to vick without guilt. even at wisconsin he looked to run first


Yup. Big ten fan here, so I watched most of his college games. He always was a scrambling qb and most likely always will be. He's a very good one so far and I want to make that clear for all the seahag homers in here. I think his game is unique and he's a unique player. He's one of the best if not the best at extending plays but I wonder how many of those plays actually require all that running around. He seems to run from the pocket more than he steps up in it. From what I see of him he holds the ball way too long and then has to spin out and run around until someone gets wide open. I don't see as many tight window throws from him as you'd expect from an "elite" qb.

I realize he's still improving. Only year two for him but all that scrambling on designed passing plays can only mean one of a few things. The line can't pass block, Wilson holds the ball to long, or the receivers can't get open. Its a possibility that its a combination of all three as its a very young offense. This season will give us a better picture of all these young qb's, Kap included.

he can't see over the line. that's the problem
[ Edited by xtm059 on Aug 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM ]
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Arizona is jizzing Peter North loads over Honey Badger.

Honey Badger vs Reid as top safety in the class of 2013?

Are people really wondering whether Mathieu or Reid will make a better safety? Really? I wouldn't think that would even be a question on anyone's radar. Reid was one of the three best safeties in college football. Most scouts thought he was the best tackler in the nation at any position. Mathieu is an interesting player but he's not on Reid's level.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Are people really wondering whether Mathieu or Reid will make a better safety? Really? I wouldn't think that would even be a question on anyone's radar. Reid was one of the three best safeties in college football. Most scouts thought he was the best tackler in the nation at any position. Mathieu is an interesting player but he's not on Reid's level.

Thus the 3rd rd selection. We ask our safeties to give run support and be sure tacklers. Not sure where a 180 lb safety fits in
Originally posted by NinerG94:
But, he's not a scrambling qb remember. Hawker and every other seahawk homer on here will tell you. Even pull up some pocket passing stats for you. I'm not saying a scrambling qb is bad. I'd consider running qb to be a knock. Obviously Wilson can pass but he's a scrambling qb no doubt about it. He always looks to run around first and he should. He knows he can get away. Pretty amazing really because he's not that fast. He's just so damn elusive.

you have no idea what you're talking about. i'll just leave it at that. you obviously no more about my team than i do.. i guess i'll just disregard all those articles and interviews were he distinctly states he looks to throw first and actually does not like or prefer to run. hard for me to do though being a homer and all.. And please tell me when did a 4.5 forty become not fast?
[ Edited by hawker84 on Aug 12, 2013 at 8:39 AM ]
Originally posted by WINiner:
It's his height. He scrambles to see the field.

People say "Kap is a running QB and will never last the season" when in imo Seadderall fans should be muuuch more worried about injury to their QB due to his penchant for scrambling. Eventually he gonna get some wood layed on him and while he is thick in stature, he doesn't have the overall size to take nasty hits.

NFL coordinators will figure out an effective way to defend Midget Wilson and he will remain good, but won't be elite imo.

EDIT: Or what G said in the post just before mine

They'll figure out RW but not kap, or Cam or RGIII, or Vick or Rogers, or Cunningham, Tarkenton, Slash, all scrambling QB's.. Why will Wilson be the only one they figure out?
[ Edited by hawker84 on Aug 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM ]
Originally posted by hawker84:
They'll figure out RW but not kap, or Cam or RGIII, or Vick or Rogers, or Cunningham, Tarkington, Slash, all scrambling QB's.. Why will Wilson be the only one they figure out?


The good defenses in the league can figure out how to contain any qb eventually. There is nothing about Wilson's game that is scary once you figure out how to contain him. Granted it has not been done yet. I know you're sold on Wilson as pocket passer. I'm not. Vick was contained and was mush faster and more elusive than Wilson. Like Vick IMO once contained = not scary. Wilson was deadly from the pocket at times last season yes, but that was because so many teams were worried about his scrambling ability. Kap, Newton, RGIII, Rogers all better from the pocket than Wilson. Sorry.
Originally posted by hawker84:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
But, he's not a scrambling qb remember. Hawker and every other seahawk homer on here will tell you. Even pull up some pocket passing stats for you. I'm not saying a scrambling qb is bad. I'd consider running qb to be a knock. Obviously Wilson can pass but he's a scrambling qb no doubt about it. He always looks to run around first and he should. He knows he can get away. Pretty amazing really because he's not that fast. He's just so damn elusive.

you have no idea what you're talking about. i'll just leave it at that. you obviously no more about my team than i do.. i guess i'll just disregard all those articles and interviews were he distinctly states he looks to throw first and actually does not like or prefer to run. hard for me to do though being a homer and all.. And please tell me when did a 4.5 forty become not fast?


God you're unbelievable. Yes he's fast but he's not Vick in his prime fast and they figured out how to contain him. I just meant he has the elusiveness of a 4.3 guy. 4.5 is not that fast. He looks quicker than a 4.5 guy IMO. go back .nut where people want to hear your mess.
According to some here, you guys are in trouble when you play the Seahawks and Rams. There's no way you guys will beat them, and it's as simple as looking at how you lost to them the last time you played them.
Originally posted by kcfan11:
According to some here, you guys are in trouble when you play the Seahawks and Rams. There's no way you guys will beat them, and it's as simple as looking at how you lost to them the last time you played them.

What are you talking about?
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by hawker84:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
But, he's not a scrambling qb remember. Hawker and every other seahawk homer on here will tell you. Even pull up some pocket passing stats for you. I'm not saying a scrambling qb is bad. I'd consider running qb to be a knock. Obviously Wilson can pass but he's a scrambling qb no doubt about it. He always looks to run around first and he should. He knows he can get away. Pretty amazing really because he's not that fast. He's just so damn elusive.

you have no idea what you're talking about. i'll just leave it at that. you obviously no more about my team than i do.. i guess i'll just disregard all those articles and interviews were he distinctly states he looks to throw first and actually does not like or prefer to run. hard for me to do though being a homer and all.. And please tell me when did a 4.5 forty become not fast?


God you're unbelievable. Yes he's fast but he's not Vick in his prime fast and they figured out how to contain him. I just meant he has the elusiveness of a 4.3 guy. 4.5 is not that fast. He looks quicker than a 4.5 guy IMO. go back .nut where people want to hear your mess.
[ Edited by ChipDouglas510 on Aug 12, 2013 at 9:56 AM ]
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by hawker84:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
But, he's not a scrambling qb remember. Hawker and every other seahawk homer on here will tell you. Even pull up some pocket passing stats for you. I'm not saying a scrambling qb is bad. I'd consider running qb to be a knock. Obviously Wilson can pass but he's a scrambling qb no doubt about it. He always looks to run around first and he should. He knows he can get away. Pretty amazing really because he's not that fast. He's just so damn elusive.

you have no idea what you're talking about. i'll just leave it at that. you obviously no more about my team than i do.. i guess i'll just disregard all those articles and interviews were he distinctly states he looks to throw first and actually does not like or prefer to run. hard for me to do though being a homer and all.. And please tell me when did a 4.5 forty become not fast?


God you're unbelievable. Yes he's fast but he's not Vick in his prime fast and they figured out how to contain him. I just meant he has the elusiveness of a 4.3 guy. 4.5 is not that fast. He looks quicker than a 4.5 guy IMO. go back .nut where people want to hear your mess.

Just drop it, Hawker84 is never wrong, he no's way more about football than anyone here, just bow down to his wisdom. It is funny though, this is the way he talks to every Niner fan over on .Nut, all high and mighty, but here he tries to act like he has so much respect for us.

let's talk a lil more about our rival teams and little less about the rival team's posters. thanks.
Originally posted by hawker84:
They'll figure out RW but not kap, or Cam or RGIII, or Vick or Rogers, or Cunningham, Tarkington, Slash, all scrambling QB's.. Why will Wilson be the only one they figure out?

It would be refreshing if Seahawk fans would stop pretending that they don't know what the physical difference is between Wilson and almost every other CURRENT QB out there. It's not like Wilson isn't going to be successful to some degree - he's real good. Most people around here agree that he's a real good QB. But, there is a "chink in his armor" that some defenses might be able to exploit to some degree and obviously, that's his height. I wouldn't call that "figuring him out." I would call that figuring out ways to make it tougher for him to be successful.