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Greg Roman - Two-year contract extension

Marvin, I am delighted we have roman for THIS yr. Don't know who we have next yr and for us, it doesn't matter. When we went thru that miserable bs of not getting plays in on time, game after game, and extending into this season( when Coach H apparently bowed out), whose fault is that? If you have the greatest playcaller in the world and he can't get the plays in on time, well, can him. Better yet, let our OC work with the O and QB during the week and let our HC be our OC on game day. That was the biggest reason I loved the signing of a HC who was also an OC and a DC. Most DCs don't get HC gigs. But successful OCs do. And like cc and sus, the late plays coming in were one thing. The last 4 plays of the SB were a fiasco. The best thing is if roman left tomorrow, we would be fine , in that JH is very capable of calling his own plays. That is why you ALWAYS want your HC to be an OC also.

As for roman's good days, there was NE...followed up 4 days later by Seahawks. So roman was capable of calling good games, but he also called some bad ones. Next yr he will be gone, and the 2 yr extension will be meaningless. Good news is our HC can step right in and call the plays. Truth be told, I wish he were calling them now. He has plenty of talent calling plays, both at Stanford and here. Is roman better than anyone since before noln? yes, but that is some mighty krappy competition. Again, glad we have roman, but he better learn how to score from the 10 yd line with 2 mins to play....because last yr he folded. We shoulda had JH calling plays then, and I feel same way now. Somehow, I wondered if there were days roman just got brain fade, or did he just have a bad day? Whatever, he has served us well , but like sus and cc, I won't shed a tear when he moves on. We got Coach Harbaugh.

What I really would like would be to have to eat these words at end of season. We'll see.
BUMPING the Greg Roman thread... cause people LOVE to b***h about him.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by okdkid:
God it feels good to be the NFL's best team.

What's a Mike Nolan?

without nolan we never would have some very very valuable parts of the puzzle including justin

Nolan came in and did what nobody else could do: For the first time since Bill Walsh walked through the front door -- Nolan tore it all down and started from scratch again. He jettisoned the dead wood. He wasn't afraid to take his lumps -- and he did. He also managed to stock the team with a lot of talent -- just as former 49er coaches had done before Walsh walked through the door.

Nolan just couldn't get the talent to play for him. Harbaugh does.
Wonder if seattle's oc gets a job first before roman.

The minute he leaves its over for the hawks. Carroll isn't that good at
Developing players
[ Edited by ads_2006 on Sep 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM ]
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Wonder if seattle's oc gets a job first before roman.

The minute he leaves its over for the hawks. Carroll isn't that good at
Developing players


Carroll is basically a glorified cheerleader. Once the seahawks start struggling, they will see his true colors. Gonna be fun to watch that circus
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by okdkid:
God it feels good to be the NFL's best team.

What's a Mike Nolan?

without nolan we never would have some very very valuable parts of the puzzle including justin

Nolan came in and did what nobody else could do: For the first time since Bill Walsh walked through the front door -- Nolan tore it all down and started from scratch again. He jettisoned the dead wood. He wasn't afraid to take his lumps -- and he did. He also managed to stock the team with a lot of talent -- just as former 49er coaches had done before Walsh walked through the door.

Nolan just couldn't get the talent to play for him. Harbaugh does.

Seemed like the 49ers screwed up every aspect of the Nolan hiring. Should have hired a GM first, and if they really liked Nolan as HC they should have done what they did with Baalke and Harbaugh. Hire a GM who wanted to have Harbaugh be his coach so that they'd have a good professional relationship. Pretty sure that only the 49ers have been dumb enough to give a rookie HC overall football authority the way they did with Nolan. Well, modern era anyways... maybe when some teams started out they did something stupid like that...
Originally posted by threelittlebirds:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by okdkid:
God it feels good to be the NFL's best team.

What's a Mike Nolan?

without nolan we never would have some very very valuable parts of the puzzle including justin

Nolan came in and did what nobody else could do: For the first time since Bill Walsh walked through the front door -- Nolan tore it all down and started from scratch again. He jettisoned the dead wood. He wasn't afraid to take his lumps -- and he did. He also managed to stock the team with a lot of talent -- just as former 49er coaches had done before Walsh walked through the door.

Nolan just couldn't get the talent to play for him. Harbaugh does.

Seemed like the 49ers screwed up every aspect of the Nolan hiring. Should have hired a GM first, and if they really liked Nolan as HC they should have done what they did with Baalke and Harbaugh. Hire a GM who wanted to have Harbaugh be his coach so that they'd have a good professional relationship. Pretty sure that only the 49ers have been dumb enough to give a rookie HC overall football authority the way they did with Nolan. Well, modern era anyways... maybe when some teams started out they did something stupid like that...

The senior York was running the operation at that time. I like what Jed York is doing now.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I have a theory on this lack of screen plays from the Niners. Purpose of running a screen is usually to draw the pass rusher to go after the qb, then getting the ball to the RB behind the rushers. It plays on the aggressiveness of the defense. If we're mostly a passing team, the screen would work with our tendency to pass the ball. But we are a running team. Defense has to be mindful of our running plays, so they tend to stay back and be more discipline against us. Less effective.

Very good point. But, they may be passing a little more this season and when they start passing, possibly they'll set up those defenses to be fooled - certainly in 3rd and long type situations. We'll see.

That is also my theory on why Roman doesn't call too many screens passes. (I think I remember 1 in the ATL game.) It is further emphasized with Kap at QB. Since screen plays prey on blitzing defenses, does a defense dare blitz Kap and risk him ripping off a 20 yard run?

Glad that Roman will stay with the team. His playcalling can be ehh at times, but like some have mentioned, he is still learning the ropes of the NFL, this being just his third season. He is a genius in the run game.
Originally posted by Muggins:
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet13m
#49ers have signed offensive coordinator Greg Roman to a two-year contract extension, I'm told. This takes the creative coach through 2015.

Oh God what a mistake this is. He's a one-trick pony with the read/option and since that is being phased out there's nothing really he can coach. Maybe Mangini can take over? The guy is basically a college coach and those 'option' offenses don't work in the NFL. This is just a waste of money. You'd be better off cutting up dollar bills and throwing them into a fire.
Originally posted by NFLBuddah:
Oh God what a mistake this is. He's a one-trick pony with the read/option and since that is being phased out there's nothing really he can coach. Maybe Mangini can take over? The guy is basically a college coach and those 'option' offenses don't work in the NFL. This is just a waste of money. You'd be better off cutting up dollar bills and throwing them into a fire.

I agree with you zero percent.
this will be his last year, some other team will poach him (raiders)
Looks like we are still having problems with getting the calls in on time.
This is the worst offensive play calling and general scheme I have ever seen from the 49ers.We line up, wave our arms around, shift around, run around back and forth, run back, run forward, audible, more dialogue, more shifting. Then finally, if we're lucky, we get the play off in time, only to be stuffed for a three yard loss.All of this pre-snap activity, sets us up in third and long, where FINALLY, we just line up and run a normal play with normal formations and normal patterns. So what happens? The line blocks perfectly and Kap throws the ball perfectly and we get a first down on the efforts of our players. Somehow, I feel as if the stench of Mangina underlies some of this. If we can just line the f**k up, and run a f**king normal play, this offense can be SO powerful.Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/174587-the-play-calling-and-scheme/#Xfe4YPdywfPSolFb.99

--BrianGO

I thought this post was quite appropriate. For some reason the thread was locked. Weird. Don't know why. These are very similar to my own sentiments. I think this is perfectly reasonable debate to put in the Greg Roman thread.

There were points where our pre snap execution was embarrasingly comical. I have been watching professional football for 40 years and I have never seen a team look as confused, disjointed, amateur, and aimlessly gadgetized as we did today. Even the stinkiest teams never looked so hapless before the snap.

And I am talking about some all time stinky teams -- early 70s Giants and Chargers -- late 70's niners -- mid 70's Bears --- you know, the acme of crap.

They would just get beat up at the line, drop passes and so on. Never did they look like a Pop Warner team trying to line up on peyote.

What are we doing? Without these gaffes and lapses the game would have been over half way through the third quarter. Instead we turned it into a nailbiter.

I can't imagine a professional football team looking so inept at points. Can I just ask, what are we practicing in training camp? How is that we can go through OTA's, camp, 4 preseason games and still look so bumbing and just plain confused at times?

Go Niners.
[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on Sep 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM ]
Brodie, I would love to say you are wrong but unfortunately you are both spot on. Confusion, delay in calling the play, or worse, changing the play so Frank runs into a brick wall, guys running all over, motion penalties, sheesh. What exactly was that out there? Either mangini had his hands in the stew, or roman had a brain fart and pandemonium reigned. Literally, it looked like Kap was handcuffed for two plays and third play was a pass to Anquan or Vernon/kyle, and we moved the chains. But play calling was forgettable and regrettable. We won this game due to some great plays on D, some superior play on Kap, Anquan, and Vernons part, and ended up winning a game we could have lost. I repeat my statement from end of last yr. Let our HC be our OC. roman and mangini can send him suggestions via US Mail, but other than that, leave JH alone.
What are some of you complaining about?? So the read option stuff didnt work today....who cares!!!?! We rolled up 500 yards of offense anyways. Kap is blossoming under this scheme.

Great game by Roman.