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Save a horse ride a cowboy
Originally posted by braap49er:
Save a horse ride a cowboy

In some countries, it's the other way around
We'll see. The 49ers definitely drafted to replace him. As great as Justin Smith is, he's not playing with as high a motor anymore as Bryant Young was at his age. What a difference one injury-filled year makes.
Kind of difficult to assess what he will be like next year when we haven't see him play this year yer. Also, check out Bill Walsh's opinion on when you let go of players.
  • buck
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Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Black cowboys are ILLEGAL!!!!

I worked for over a year on construction jobs with a member of the Black Cowboys Association. He was not illegal, but he was close. Interesting dude. He was a hard worker, smart, tough, and just a little mean.

Black cowboys were common. A cowboy was a relatively low paid worker. Census records suggest that about 15% of all cowboys were of African-American ancestry—ranging from about 25% on the trail drives out of Texas, to very few in the northwest. Other estimates suggest that in the late 19th century, one out of every three cowboys was a Mexican vaquero, and 20% may have been African-American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy#Ethnicity

Bill Pickett invented the technique of bulldogging, the skill of grabbing cattle by the horns and wrestling them to the ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Pickett


In my high school state history class, we learned about Nat Love--one black cowboy and relatively well known, I believe.

Nat Love entered a rodeo in Deadwood, South Dakota, on the 4th of July in 1876. He won the rope, throw, tie, bridle, saddle and bronco riding contests. It was at this contest that the fans gave him the nickname "Deadwood Dick".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Love
[ Edited by buck on Jun 16, 2013 at 11:46 PM ]
A lot of it will come down to money. We are so tight up under the cap right now, and we'll have to resign Kaep next year (and maybe Crabs & Aldon if I'm not mistaken).
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Black cowboys are ILLEGAL!!!!

I worked for over a year on construction jobs with a member of the Black Cowboys Association. He was not illegal, but he was close. Interesting dude. He was a hard worker, smart, tough, and just a little mean.

Black cowboys were common. A cowboy was a relatively low paid worker. Census records suggest that about 15% of all cowboys were of African-American ancestry—ranging from about 25% on the trail drives out of Texas, to very few in the northwest. Other estimates suggest that in the late 19th century, one out of every three cowboys was a Mexican vaquero, and 20% may have been African-American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy#Ethnicity

Bill Pickett invented the technique of bulldogging, the skill of grabbing cattle by the horns and wrestling them to the ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Pickett


In my high school state history class, we learned about Nat Love--one black cowboy and relatively well known, I believe.

Nat Love entered a rodeo in Deadwood, South Dakota, on the 4th of July in 1876. He won the rope, throw, tie, bridle, saddle and bronco riding contests. It was at this contest that the fans gave him the nickname "Deadwood Dick".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Love

A black sheriff?

Originally posted by zillabeast:
We'll see. The 49ers definitely drafted to replace him. As great as Justin Smith is, he's not playing with as high a motor anymore as Bryant Young was at his age. What a difference one injury-filled year makes.

From what I understand the Niners drafted to add depth... not to rplace e'er next year. J. Smith was injured due to much playing time bc of lack of still of depth.
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Yehawww fer Crabs, da Cawwboyahhh....

Unfortunately, in today's NFL, it doesn't matter if a guy can still play. If there is a younger cheaper guy that can play just as well, then you let the old guy go.... even then, if the drop-off in play is small and you are tight on cap space you may still have to cut the old guy.

We will be attempting to lock up Kaepernick and Aldon Smith soon. Justin Smith (and Frank Gore) will both be on the chopping block to make cap space.


However, I do think that it is likely that we will try to keep Justin for an extra year. It is unlikely that Tank Carradine will be able to take over Justin's role full time in 2014. It's a position change for him, and he is currently rehabbing an injury.

I'm betting that we are waiting to see how much cap space we have after training camp cuts, then try to extend Justin's deal to include another year with most of the cap hit front loaded.
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and of course alot depends on how much wear and tear he endures this year. just like frank I would "like to think" we can give those guys some rest and that would extend their career(more worried bout justin than gore cuz gore is only 30 and spare me the talk about how backs break down at 30 as frank is an exception) I would "like to think" some of the kids will step up, step in, give justin a rest and not hurt the team. Of course a big factor is if gore and justin will allow this to happen! Their desire to be in there is something no one can control, Hell even if you hide their helmets they find them
Last yr I mentioned that if we kept allowing Justin to take double teams or occasionally triple teams, he would be hard pressed to make it to end of season. I also wondered about running the 4-3 instead of 3-4, but we are in more 4-3 than 3-4. Either way Justin still gets double teamed. Hence, the rationale to draft DLs as #1 and #2 in this most recent draft. Well, we got tank, but we better have more DLs rotating this yr or you don't have to worry about Justin next yr...he may have trouble making it thru this one. The DL rotation is a must for us this yr, and Tank will help immensely(I hope). Also we should try to get any DL capable of not hurting the D in there for ample snaps to give our starters a blow. Alternatively we could run every down on O, and keep the D off the field(nah, that won't work either). Like cc I hope our younger guys can get it done to give Justin a blow. If not this will be the 3rd yr in a row where he should have been given time to recuperate. When big guys like Justin get tired out, what happens? Not uncommonly, they get injured. Well, that happened this past yr...and Justin played anyway. Somehow, someway, Coach has to get Justin some rest. Do that and what happens? At end of yr, he is more likely not to have been injured, and wth luck, may get an extra yr of play. That would be a big win for us.
would recommend you change the title. I thought this was about the Dallas Cowboys as well..
Originally posted by zillabeast:
We'll see. The 49ers definitely drafted to replace him. As great as Justin Smith is, he's not playing with as high a motor anymore as Bryant Young was at his age. What a difference one injury-filled year makes.

I think last year Bryant Young wish he played like Justin did
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Black cowboys are ILLEGAL!!!!

I worked for over a year on construction jobs with a member of the Black Cowboys Association. He was not illegal, but he was close. Interesting dude. He was a hard worker, smart, tough, and just a little mean.

Black cowboys were common. A cowboy was a relatively low paid worker. Census records suggest that about 15% of all cowboys were of African-American ancestry—ranging from about 25% on the trail drives out of Texas, to very few in the northwest. Other estimates suggest that in the late 19th century, one out of every three cowboys was a Mexican vaquero, and 20% may have been African-American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy#Ethnicity

Bill Pickett invented the technique of bulldogging, the skill of grabbing cattle by the horns and wrestling them to the ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Pickett


In my high school state history class, we learned about Nat Love--one black cowboy and relatively well known, I believe.

Nat Love entered a rodeo in Deadwood, South Dakota, on the 4th of July in 1876. He won the rope, throw, tie, bridle, saddle and bronco riding contests. It was at this contest that the fans gave him the nickname "Deadwood Dick".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Love

A black sheriff?


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