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Solution(s) to losing Crabs

Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Hey, I liked Delanie....right up to the time when he dropped the ball. And then again. And again. Sure he made some nice catches, nice moves , blocked well, but the drops, and there were many, just flat azz killed us. And many of those occurred on 3rd down, or RZ. He could be great....or he could be bad. And which Delanie showed up each game day was hard to say. If a guy is a receiver, TE or WR, or RB, and you can only count on him sometimes...then you got the wrong guy playing that position....and THAT was Delanie. Some good days, some bad. Unfortunately, in the BIG LEAGUES, that isn't good enough. Rally killer comes to mind. For all his really good days, dropping a ball that just had to be caught ....well, that wiped out his good days. I wish him well, but just not here.

agree with doc. i am just very happy to see, at this point in time,, the team has not opted to sign some old has been like owens or moss or some diva like miss lloyd. i love the fact that, just like the safety position,, they will throw all of the guys and kids together in one big pot and let them duke it out! that is fun and that brings out the best in everyone

Totally agree with the Delanie statement. Not sure why everyone is predicting doom and gloom by losing him. Is it really a longshot to expect our Gronk Jr =

Vance 6'4" - 267 lbs, 34.375 - Arm Length, 10.125 - Hand Size, 4.69 - Forty, 33.5 - Vert, 9'11" - Broad, 4.53 - Short Shuttle, 7.08 - 3 Cone,
31 - Reps at 225
Gronk 6'6" - 258 lbs, 34.25 - Arm Length, 10.75 - Hand Size, 4.68 - Forty, 33.5 - Vert, 9'11" - Broad, 4.47 - Short Shuttle, 7.18 - 3 Cone,
23 - Reps at 225

To put up similar numbers to what Walker did last year?

21 catches
344 yards
3TD

That's less than 2 catches and 21.5 yards per game......plus a TD every 5th game.

Im gonna go "out on a limb" and say Vance outproduces Walker's 2012 numbers in his rookie year.

Looks like our boy is starting to pick up the system........


Vance McDonald – Five catches during team drills, and three of those catches were flat-out spectacular. Twice he twisted his body in the air and caught passes thrown behind him. Once he ran a wheel route deep down the left sideline and caught an overthrown pass with his fingertips. He made each catch look easy. He did not drop any passes. He clearly is the 49ers' No.2 tight end. Neither Garrett Celek or MarQueis Gray are in McDonald's class.


I think Jimbo is salivating over the possibilities of VD and VMcD this year....


Q: It seemed like Colin Kaepernick and the first team offense really ended practice with a flourish.

HARBAUGH: They sure did. They were really sharp there. Colin has been on it all offseason. That period especially was outstanding. Saw Vance McDonald on his birthday making some spectacular grabs. We have to have more Vance McDonald birthdays. He was outstanding.


Now I don't want to put the horse before the cart, but if one of the young guys can provide the deep threat that Moss did last year and put up similar numbers =

28 Catches
434 Yards
3 TD

While Vance out produces what Walker did last year......AND VD/Kap click like they did in the playoffs......AND Boldin can be that chain mover....I think our passing O will be just fine.

That's a lot of question marks for sure, but completely possible.

Still..........damn we would have been DANGEROUS with Crabs this year.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
With you on that 100%...can't believe "Mr Wrinkle" cant throw a couple in here and there.

I'll be very surprised if we don't see a few ways they can get James in space with the ball this season. They were working him in during the season last year. This year, they've got an entire off-season with him.

I really hope so. I mentioned it earlier in this thread....the Harbaugh/Roman offense in Stanford and SF just does not throw it to the backs. With guys like Gore, James and Hunter, plus our athletic line and great blocking WR's, those guys should be MAJOR contributors out in the flats.

Gore - 28
Miller - 12
Hunter - 9
James - 3

Looking back on the 09 and 10 seasons at Stanford, neither Gerhart (11) or Taylor (28) caught many balls.

Unless there is a great shift in offensive philosophy, I do not think we can expect our backs to be major contributors in the pass game. Still, if we are always self evaluating and gearing the offense towards the players talents, as they always say, then its a no brainer to get those guys the ball out on the edge.

How on Earth do we see the "Fly Sweep" several times and not a single screen pass?? crazy
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
Looks like our boy is starting to pick up the system........


Vance McDonald – Five catches during team drills, and three of those catches were flat-out spectacular. Twice he twisted his body in the air and caught passes thrown behind him. Once he ran a wheel route deep down the left sideline and caught an overthrown pass with his fingertips. He made each catch look easy. He did not drop any passes. He clearly is the 49ers' No.2 tight end. Neither Garrett Celek or MarQueis Gray are in McDonald's class.


I think Jimbo is salivating over the possibilities of VD and VMcD this year....


Q: It seemed like Colin Kaepernick and the first team offense really ended practice with a flourish.

HARBAUGH: They sure did. They were really sharp there. Colin has been on it all offseason. That period especially was outstanding. Saw Vance McDonald on his birthday making some spectacular grabs. We have to have more Vance McDonald birthdays. He was outstanding.


Now I don't want to put the horse before the cart, but if one of the young guys can provide the deep threat that Moss did last year and put up similar numbers =

28 Catches
434 Yards
3 TD

While Vance out produces what Walker did last year......AND VD/Kap click like they did in the playoffs......AND Boldin can be that chain mover....I think our passing O will be just fine.

That's a lot of question marks for sure, but completely possible.

Still..........damn we would have been DANGEROUS with Crabs this year.

Agree, but think this team will still be dangerous until Crabtree gets back and then... Super Bowl! McDonald was my favorite pick going into this year and I really hope he is the counter punch to VD that has been lacking. Walker may be missed more for his blocking and high IQ in the system, but McD will get there at least by the playoffs.

Really hope that either Jenkins or Patton can be the starter next to Boldin and add that deep threat, but would be happy if anyone else steps up as well--Williams, Lockette, Moore...whoever!
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
Looks like our boy is starting to pick up the system........


Vance McDonald – Five catches during team drills, and three of those catches were flat-out spectacular. Twice he twisted his body in the air and caught passes thrown behind him. Once he ran a wheel route deep down the left sideline and caught an overthrown pass with his fingertips. He made each catch look easy. He did not drop any passes. He clearly is the 49ers' No.2 tight end. Neither Garrett Celek or MarQueis Gray are in McDonald's class.


I think Jimbo is salivating over the possibilities of VD and VMcD this year....


Q: It seemed like Colin Kaepernick and the first team offense really ended practice with a flourish.

HARBAUGH: They sure did. They were really sharp there. Colin has been on it all offseason. That period especially was outstanding. Saw Vance McDonald on his birthday making some spectacular grabs. We have to have more Vance McDonald birthdays. He was outstanding.


Now I don't want to put the horse before the cart, but if one of the young guys can provide the deep threat that Moss did last year and put up similar numbers =

28 Catches
434 Yards
3 TD

While Vance out produces what Walker did last year......AND VD/Kap click like they did in the playoffs......AND Boldin can be that chain mover....I think our passing O will be just fine.

That's a lot of question marks for sure, but completely possible.

Still..........damn we would have been DANGEROUS with Crabs this year.

Agree, but think this team will still be dangerous until Crabtree gets back and then... Super Bowl! McDonald was my favorite pick going into this year and I really hope he is the counter punch to VD that has been lacking. Walker may be missed more for his blocking and high IQ in the system, but McD will get there at least by the playoffs.

Really hope that either Jenkins or Patton can be the starter next to Boldin and add that deep threat, but would be happy if anyone else steps up as well--Williams, Lockette, Moore...whoever!

I'm with you buddy, I was pumping up Vance before and after the draft. He's a MONSTER! Here's a great article on Vance, this was before his big day yesterday.

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/jim-harbaugh-vernon-davis-vance-mcdonald-sf-49ers-tight-ends/
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moore will be the surprise of them all in my opinion, both at wide out, special teams returning kicks
Originally posted by cciowa:
moore will be the surprise of them all in my opinion, both at wide out, special teams returning kicks

I'm marking it down cciowa, you are in the book for Moore +1!
Between Anquan and AJ, Moore and all the young guns, Crabtree will be an afterthought by mid season.
Moore, AJ and Vance all were reported to have had a very good camp and that is exactly the kind of info we need to hear.
Put the ball in the hands of playmakers -- Vernon, LaMichael
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
I'm with you buddy, I was pumping up Vance before and after the draft. He's a MONSTER! Here's a great article on Vance, this was before his big day yesterday.

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/jim-harbaugh-vernon-davis-vance-mcdonald-sf-49ers-tight-ends/

Good article and it makes me even more excited (and impatient ) for the season to begin!
I believe that we are forgetting about our wildcard and he is none other than Kyle Williams, who mind you before his injury was showing flashes of a good slot reciever. I believe with Alex he never really clicked plus we didnt throw the ball as much. But with Kaep I believe Boldin and a combo of Williams/AJ/Patton will prove to be a great combination. Williams has always been a sleeper to me and now we have opened up our offense look for better production from him. We are loaded with play makers, last year proved to show our weakness on Offense which derives from mental lapses from our offensive coordinator ( see the Rams and Ravens game). I believe the play calling will be much better this year as this is Roman's chance to prove he is head coaching material. GO 9ers!!!!!!!
Last season crabtree was a huge part of the teams success overall, but to me he was most important on 3rd down.. who do you guys see stepping up and being as reliable of a go to on 3rd down with crab sidelined.. keep it lit


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