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GUESS THE 53!!

Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Final:


RB (4): Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Jewel Hampton and Anthony Dixon; LaMichael James & Marcus Lattimore (PUP) - Note: Jewel Hampton had another very good game yesterday despite playing behind a very poor OL. IMHO, he is a better runner than James at this point and if he goes to the PS again, I have a feeling he'll be snatched up quickly. Thanks to the MCL sprain to LMJ, he finally makes the 53. Patton/Hawkins can resume punt/kickoff returns.

What are you smoking? You dont PUP a player for an MCL sprain.

He's out 3-4 weeks. If he goes on the PUP he has to sit out 6 weeks.

And I think you're significantly overestimating the demand for Jewel Hampton. Almost every team has a similar back that produces at a decent clip in the preseason. Guys like him are a dime a dozen.

There were some questions entering the 2013 season as to where James would fit in the offense with Hunter healthy again. James' injury leaves Hunter as the clear No. 2 runner in terms of carries.

The 49ers have not provided details regarding James' injury.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9616506/lamichael-james-san-francisco-49ers-miss-3-4-weeks

The point is "we" don't know if its a partial tear which would take about 6-8 weeks to recover from and even if it does take the 4 weeks, why rush him? Put him on PUP, heal up properly (like we don't already possess one of the most cautious medical staffs there is anyhow) and come back week 7. In the interim, we have an open roster spot for someone to show case their skills or we can use Hampton in the interim to spell Gore. Either way, why rush a guy back when we aren't even sure how we'll use him now that Hunter is back? Williams, Hawkins, Hall, Cox, Patton, etc. will return kicks (and most likely, do much better than him anyhow).
Originally posted by NCommand:
There were some questions entering the 2013 season as to where James would fit in the offense with Hunter healthy again. James' injury leaves Hunter as the clear No. 2 runner in terms of carries.

The 49ers have not provided details regarding James' injury.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9616506/lamichael-james-san-francisco-49ers-miss-3-4-weeks

The point is "we" don't know if its a partial tear which would take about 6-8 weeks to recover from and even if it does take the 4 weeks, why rush him? Put him on PUP, heal up properly (like we don't already possess one of the most cautious medical staffs there is anyhow) and come back week 7. In the interim, we have an open roster spot for someone to show case their skills or we can use Hampton in the interim to spell Gore. Either way, why rush a guy back when we aren't even sure how we'll use him now that Hunter is back? Williams, Hawkins, Hall, Cox, Patton, etc. will return kicks (and most likely, do much better than him anyhow).

Fair enough on the possibility of an extended absence--you never know--but it's not gonna happen with Hampton, dude. Use him to spell Gore? Why? We have Hunter. Even Dixon is ahead of Hampton.

Like I said, if you watch other preseason games you will see that the league is full of Jewel Hamptons--guys who look passable in preseason but aren't likely to ever get a carry in the regular season. Do you remember Kory Sheets? Thomas Clayton?
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Fair enough on the possibility of an extended absence--you never know--but it's not gonna happen with Hampton, dude. Use him to spell Gore? Why? We have Hunter. Even Dixon is ahead of Hampton.

Like I said, if you watch other preseason games you will see that the league is full of Jewel Hamptons--guys who look passable in preseason but aren't likely to ever get a carry in the regular season. Do you remember Kory Sheets? Thomas Clayton?

LMAO! Touche. Although I hear Sheets is tearing up...in the Canadian League? Anyway, it's probably true...although the coaches do seem to do their best for those players who have put in their time, worked hard and earned it. And he has and is nice insurance in case we need a grinder. That said, Hunter, obviously is the man, but will hit many more off tackle runs and some inside hitters. Hampton (if he made it) and Dixon? Maybe a couple carries here and there. Hampton could be used on ST as well. Personally, I'd opt for an open roster spot and consider a LT on the waiver wire (veteran cut).
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Final:


RB (4): Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Jewel Hampton and Anthony Dixon; LaMichael James & Marcus Lattimore (PUP) - Note: Jewel Hampton had another very good game yesterday despite playing behind a very poor OL. IMHO, he is a better runner than James at this point and if he goes to the PS again, I have a feeling he'll be snatched up quickly. Thanks to the MCL sprain to LMJ, he finally makes the 53. Patton/Hawkins can resume punt/kickoff returns.

What are you smoking? You dont PUP a player for an MCL sprain.

He's out 3-4 weeks. If he goes on the PUP he has to sit out 6 weeks.

And I think you're significantly overestimating the demand for Jewel Hampton. Almost every team has a similar back that produces at a decent clip in the preseason. Guys like him are a dime a dozen.

There were some questions entering the 2013 season as to where James would fit in the offense with Hunter healthy again. James' injury leaves Hunter as the clear No. 2 runner in terms of carries.

The 49ers have not provided details regarding James' injury.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9616506/lamichael-james-san-francisco-49ers-miss-3-4-weeks

The point is "we" don't know if its a partial tear which would take about 6-8 weeks to recover from and even if it does take the 4 weeks, why rush him? Put him on PUP, heal up properly (like we don't already possess one of the most cautious medical staffs there is anyhow) and come back week 7. In the interim, we have an open roster spot for someone to show case their skills or we can use Hampton in the interim to spell Gore. Either way, why rush a guy back when we aren't even sure how we'll use him now that Hunter is back? Williams, Hawkins, Hall, Cox, Patton, etc. will return kicks (and most likely, do much better than him anyhow).

Good post, NCommand... I made the same point in another thread just now. Not only does it give LMJ a chance to heal up completely, it gives Hawkins and/or Hampton a chance to show the coaching staff what they can contribute. This could actually be a win/win in the long term.
Originally posted by NCommand:
LMAO! Touche. Although I hear Sheets is tearing up...in the Canadian League? Anyway, it's probably true...although the coaches do seem to do their best for those players who have put in their time, worked hard and earned it. And he has and is nice insurance in case we need a grinder. That said, Hunter, obviously is the man, but will hit many more off tackle runs and some inside hitters. Hampton (if he made it) and Dixon? Maybe a couple carries here and there. Hampton could be used on ST as well. Personally, I'd opt for an open roster spot and consider a LT on the waiver wire (veteran cut).

Ha, I watch an obscene amount of college football and I really liked Hampton at Iowa before the injuries set in and he ended up at Southern Illinois. I just don't see it happening for him at this level unfortunately. You never know, though. There are a lot of ways for a guy to get a shot in the NFL.

A veteran OL would be great if we could find one. I think we're in better shape than virtually every other team in the league, but you can never have enough quality OL depth.
Its like we are gonna have a whole new team in week 7 lol
Originally posted by mayo49:
Offense (25)
QB: Colin Kaepernick, Colt McCoy, B.J. Daniels
RB: Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James
FB: Bruce Miller, Anthony Dixon
WR: Anquan Boldin, Quinton Patton, Jon Baldwin, Kyle Williams, Marlon Moore, Lavelle Hawkins
TE: Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald, Garrett Celek
OT: Joe Staley, Anthony Davis
OG: Mike Iupati, Alex Boone, Adam Snyder, Joe Looney
C: Jonathan Goodwin, Daniel Kilgore

Defense (25)
DE: Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, DeMarcus Dobbs, Tony Jerod-Eddie
NT: Ian Williams, Glenn Dorsey
OLB: Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Corey Lemonier, Dan Skuta, Cam Johnson
ILB: Patrick Willis, Navorro Bowman, Michael Wilhoite, Nick Moody
CB: Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, Nnamdi Asomugha, Tramaine Brock, Perrish Cox
FS: Eric Reid, Craig Dahl, Michael Thomas
SS: Donte Whitner, C.J. Spillman

Special Teams (3)
K: Phil Dawson
P: Andy Lee
LS: Brian Jennings

I think this list is very close to how the roster will be shaped...give or take a player or two. I'm sure the Niners are considering trades right now too.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
If you remember, last year Josh Johnson outplayed Tolzien during the preseason games, particularly in the final game. But it was Johnson who was cut. Practices are at least as important to the evaluations. Cam Johnson and Hawkins were huge last night, but it may not be enough.

Also, the injuries to Snyder and LMJ will be reflected in the decision in the next 24 hours. For that matter, the roster is never final.

Yes, but I think there's been a lot of praise for Cam Johnson during TC by Fangio, and the move to trade Fangio makes it appear he's got a great shot at making the 53..
Just for kicks... Final (meaning end of the season) 53-man roster (barring injuries)...

OFFENSE (25)

QB- Kaepernick, McCoy, Daniels
RB- Gore, Hunter, James
FB- Miller, Dixon
TE- Davis, McDonald, Celek
WR- Crabtree, Patton, Baldwin
WR- Boldin, Manningham, Moore
LT- Staley
LG- Iupati, Looney
C- Goodwin, Kilgore
RG- Boone, Snyder
RT- Davis

DEFENSE (25)

DT- Smith, Carradine
NT- Williams, Dial
DE- McDonald, Dorsey
OLB- Smith, Lemonier
ILB- Willis, Wilhoite
ILB- Bowman, Moody
OLB- Brooks, Skuta, C. Johnson
CB- Brown, Cox, Wright
CB- Rogers, Asomugha, Brock
FS- Reid, Spillman
SS- Whitner, Dahl

SPECIALISTS (3)
K- Dawson
P- Lee
LS- Jennings (or McDermott)
[ Edited by JamesGatz83 on Aug 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM ]
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Just for kicks... Final (meaning end of the season) 53-man roster (barring injuries)...

OFFENSE (25)

QB- Kaepernick, McCoy, Daniels
RB- Gore, Hunter, James
FB- Miller, Dixon
TE- Davis, McDonald, Celek
WR- Crabtree, Patton, Baldwin
WR- Boldin, Manningham, Moore
LT- Staley
LG- Iupati, Looney
C- Goodwin, Kilgore
RG- Boone, Snyder
RT- Davis

DEFENSE (25)

DT- Smith, Carradine
NT- Williams, Dial
DE- McDonald, Dorsey
OLB- Smith, Lemonier
ILB- Willis, Wilhoite
ILB- Bowman, Moody
OLB- Brooks, Skuta, C. Johnson
CB- Brown, Cox, Wright
CB- Rogers, Asomugha, Brock
FS- Reid, Spillman
SS- Whitner, Dahl

SPECIALISTS (3)
K- Dawson
P- Lee
LS- Jennings (or McDermott)

uh oh, watch for the Kyle Williams fans, saying cant cut him, he is better than Moore. When clearly Williams is a mediocre WR, and isn't too good at returns. I would cut Williams in heart beat. If it's between him and Moore, Moore stays.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
uh oh, watch for the Kyle Williams fans, saying cant cut him, he is better than Moore. When clearly Williams is a mediocre WR, and isn't too good at returns. I would cut Williams in heart beat. If it's between him and Moore, Moore stays.

Agreed. I am by no means a Williams hater and I've long since forgiven him for the '12 NFCCG, but I just think all 6 guys I kept are clearly better.
Agreed 110% Gratz.
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Good post, NCommand... I made the same point in another thread just now. Not only does it give LMJ a chance to heal up completely, it gives Hawkins and/or Hampton a chance to show the coaching staff what they can contribute. This could actually be a win/win in the long term.

Hampton will never get a chance to run the ball. Gore and Hunter wont lose carries to Hampton, not now or ever. And mop up duty will be for Dixon to take care of. He will be back on the PS this year.
As usual in the webzone the unknown > known
Originally posted by natrone06:
As usual in the webzone the unknown > known

Ha, in the WZ's defense, I think that's the way it is everywhere with every average or worse player. It's like the expression about the backup QB being the most popular guy in town. If you aren't clearly established, fans are always looking for the next best thing.