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GUESS THE 53!!

Let me do a new 46 man projection.

1. QB Colin Kaepernick
2. QB Colt McCoy
3. RB Frank Gore
4. RB Kendall Hunter
5. RB LaMichael James
6. RB/FB/ST Anthony Dixon
7. FB Bruce Miller
8. WR Anquan Boldin
9. WR Marlon Moore
10. WR Kyle Williams
11. WR Quinton Patton
12. TE Vernon Davis
13. TE Vance McDonald
14. C Jonathan Goodwin
15. C/OG Daniel Kilgore
16. LG Mike Iupati
17. RG Alex Boone
18. RG/OT Adam Snyder
19. LT Joe Staley
20. RT Anthony Davis
21. DE Justin Smith
22. DE Ray McDonald
23. NT Ian Williams
24. NT/DE Glenn Dorsey
25. OLB Aldon Smith
26. OLB Ahmad Brooks
27. OLB Corey Lemonier
28. OLB Dan Skuta
29. ILB Patrck Willis
30. ILB NaVorro Bowman
31. ILB Michael Wilhoite
32. ILB Nick Moody
33. CB Carlos Rogers
34. CB Tarell Brown
35. CB Nnamdi Asomugha
36. CB Perrish Cox
37. FS Eric Reid
38. FS/SS Craig Dahl
39. FS/SS C.J. Spillman
40. SS Donte Whitner
41. PK Phil Dawson
42. P Andy Lee
43. LS Brian Jennings
44. TE Garrett Celek
45. CB Tramaine Brock
46. DE Will Tukuafu

Inactive 7:

47. QB B.J. Daniels
48. LG/C Joe Looney
49. WR Jon Baldwin
50. OLB Cam Johnson
51. DE Tony Jerod-Eddie
52. TE MarQuies Gray or S Trenton Robinson or a WR
53. CB Marcus Cooper or Darryl Morris
54. DE Demarcus Dobbs (Suspended list for 1 week)

Note: that Crabtree, Manningham, Carradine, and Dial are expected back. So we need to open up 4 spots, likely Dobbs, Tukuafu, TJE, 2 for Dial and Tank. Then Take roster spot 52 for Mario, and 50 for Crabtree, or some combination. Also Wright could come back, maybe over Brock, or a CB already on roster.

Also note, any player with over 4 seasons accrued are considered vested veterans, and have salary guaranteed after week 1 if on roster.

Also, Dobbs will lose a week check(roughly $32,647K) Plus Crabtree will lose at least 6 game checks for his per game day 46 man roster bonus, which would be $31,250 per game, or $187,500K.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Let me do a new 46 man projection.

1. QB Colin Kaepernick
2. QB Colt McCoy
3. RB Frank Gore
4. RB Kendall Hunter
5. RB LaMichael James
6. RB/FB/ST Anthony Dixon
7. FB Bruce Miller
8. WR Anquan Boldin
9. WR Marlon Moore
10. WR Kyle Williams
11. WR Quinton Patton
12. TE Vernon Davis
13. TE Vance McDonald
14. C Jonathan Goodwin
15. C/OG Daniel Kilgore
16. LG Mike Iupati
17. RG Alex Boone
18. RG/OT Adam Snyder
19. LT Joe Staley
20. RT Anthony Davis
21. DE Justin Smith
22. DE Ray McDonald
23. NT Ian Williams
24. NT/DE Glenn Dorsey
25. OLB Aldon Smith
26. OLB Ahmad Brooks
27. OLB Corey Lemonier
28. OLB Dan Skuta
29. ILB Patrck Willis
30. ILB NaVorro Bowman
31. ILB Michael Wilhoite
32. ILB Nick Moody
33. CB Carlos Rogers
34. CB Tarell Brown
35. CB Nnamdi Asomugha
36. CB Perrish Cox
37. FS Eric Reid
38. FS/SS Craig Dahl
39. FS/SS C.J. Spillman
40. SS Donte Whitner
41. PK Phil Dawson
42. P Andy Lee
43. LS Brian Jennings
44. TE Garrett Celek
45. CB Tramaine Brock
46. DE Will Tukuafu

Inactive 7:

47. QB B.J. Daniels
48. LG/C Joe Looney
49. WR Jon Baldwin
50. OLB Cam Johnson
51. DE Tony Jerod-Eddie
52. TE MarQuies Gray or S Trenton Robinson or a WR
53. CB Marcus Cooper or Darryl Morris
54. DE Demarcus Dobbs (Suspended list for 1 week)

Note: that Crabtree, Manningham, Carradine, and Dial are expected back. So we need to open up 4 spots, likely Dobbs, Tukuafu, TJE, 2 for Dial and Tank. Then Take roster spot 52 for Mario, and 50 for Crabtree, or some combination. Also Wright could come back, maybe over Brock, or a CB already on roster.

Also note, any player with over 4 seasons accrued are considered vested veterans, and have salary guaranteed after week 1 if on roster.

Also, Dobbs will lose a week check(roughly $32,647K) Plus Crabtree will lose at least 6 game checks for his per game day 46 man roster bonus, which would be $31,250 per game, or $187,500K.

Nice projection, AB. Thoughts on sitting Dixon down in favor of Baldwin? I figure we could just go to more pistol if Miller was banged up, given that we use our TEs in the backfield frequently in those sets. Plus, with 8 active LBs (including Skuta and Moody), we should be able to cover for Dixon on STs, no? Granted I don't know enough about our specific units to say for certain.
  • xcfan
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serious question: based on preseason tape, who's a better QB, colt mccoy or pat white?
Originally posted by xcfan:
serious question: based on preseason tape, who's a better QB, colt mccoy or pat white?

I don't like to base colt mccoy on his preseason tape, because he was running for his life for two games
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Originally posted by xtm059:
I don't like to base colt mccoy on his preseason tape, because he was running for his life for two games
good point. that tells you what we have to look forward to if staley or davis go down.
Originally posted by xcfan:
Originally posted by xtm059:
I don't like to base colt mccoy on his preseason tape, because he was running for his life for two games
good point. that tells you what we have to look forward to if staley or davis go down.

That wont be a problem, the real problem is if one of them go down and then Boone goes down. Boone is by far a better tackle than any of the backups (look at last years AZ game). Snyder would move to guard where he was at least capable two years ago. Now if both go down... we are effed.

My 53

QB (3): C. Kaep, McCoy, Daniels

Daniels has more to offer to the roster than Tolzien, hence the reason he was cut, but Daniels won't be active on game days. Next season He'll be the #2 guy.

RB (4): Gore, Hunter, LMJ, Dixon (PUP: Lattimore)

Sorry folks, Dixon won't be going anywhere. Too versatile, and too important on ST to be cut.

FB (1): Miller

TE (3): Davis, McDonald, Celek/Gray

I'd like to see Gray beat out Celek for a roster spot. But either will make the 46.

WR (5): Boldin, Williams, Moore, Patton, Baldwin (PUP/IR: Crabs, Manningham)

We keep 5 because Manningham WILL be back at some point. But I highly doubt that Manningham is gonna be back in time to make a significant enough impact on the roster to be anything other than a 4th option at WR, especially since Patton showed with little time he got, and if Williams proves to be healthy. Unless we run into the injury bug at WR I just don't see a need to rush Manningham back unless we needed to. Unlike many here, I thought A. J. was gonna prove why JH & Co. spent a 1st on him. I thought he'd step up and claim that #2 spot. Man was I wrong!! Patton is the future to me.

RT: Davis, Snyder

RG: Boone, Looney

C: Goodwin, Kilgore

LG: Iupati, Looney

LT: Staley, Snyder

[Note]: 8 O-lineman.

Snyder can play all 5 spots and will be our swing man. Looney won't be active, but he and Kilgore are the future.

DL/NG (3): Williams, Dorsey, Jerod-Eddie

DE/DT (4): J. Smith, McDonald, Tukuafu

[Note]: 7 on the D-line

I think Williams starts over Dorsey. JH & Co. are gonna see their Okoye project through, so I really think that he'll will be back on the PS. We are gonna get rotation – good rotation – along the D-line this season. When Tank returns either Tukuafu or Jerod-Eddie is gone. I'd guess Jerod-Eddie will be the odd man out.

OLB (5): A. Smith, Brooks, Lemonier, Skuta, Johnson

Deep here. I thought Haralson was gonna be around for a while, but I understand the trade. Lemonier flashed all kinds of ability, and Cam Johnson has gotten MUCH better, but won't make the 46.

ILB (4): Willis, Bowman, Wilhoite, Moody

Man, Wilhoite really put a chock-hold on that #2 ILB spot. Before I was really concerned about the depth here, but he showed his ass.

CB (5): Brown, Asomugha, Rogers, Cox, Cooper

Cooper is gonna make the team. I think Cooper will be a steal and make the 46. Big physical CB aren't easy things to come by in the NFL. If we cut Cooper he won't last a day on the street; he's gonna make a 46 roster. With Asomugha the clear #3 (basically a starter these days) Brock will be out.

FS (3): Reid, Spillman, Robinson

SS (2): Whitner, Dahl

K (1): Dawson

P (1): Lee

LS (1): Jennings

Italicized won't be on the 46

Talent all up and down this roster. I think this season is perhaps the easiest 53 to predict. Plus, we have all kinds of talent stashed away on IR and PUP. We're set up to be talented for a long time.

[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Aug 28, 2013 at 9:15 PM ]
I am officially going nuts. I think Jennings is gone. The more I dig into the numbers, If we keep Jennings, we may only have $1M in cap space. I didn't take in count all the extra players on IR, PUP, NFI, and then the PS.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I am officially going nuts. I think Jennings is gone. The more I dig into the numbers, If we keep Jennings, we may only have $1M in cap space. I didn't take in count all the extra players on IR, PUP, NFI, and then the PS.


what has Dobbs done to earn a roster spot?
I think Jennings is gone too as a cap casualty, and I wouldn't be surprised to see McCoy cut at some point halfway during the season, after I read about his workout bonuses in the article today. I can't shake off the suspicion we'll either cut BJ (that sounds nasty ) and stash him on the PS, or we keep 4 QBs until one of the PUP-ers is ready to come back in which case we cut McCoy.
[ Edited by paulk205 on Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 AM ]
BTW, have we got any idea of BJ's ST work? I know about him "being used all over the place" but in what sort of manner? Punt protector perhaps (it would make sense for fakes)?

If he's really useful there, he might be kept as a 4th "QB", in which case I could see Wallace be among the gameday inactives.
Dobbs, tukuafu and cam johnson are easily replaceable.
Sorry for multiple posts. Getting used to this phone.

I'm not convinced baldwin makes the roster. Right now id rather have collie or jacobs instead of baldwin. This is more of a want than what I expect.
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Originally posted by fister30:
Sorry for multiple posts. Getting used to this phone.

I'm not convinced baldwin makes the roster. Right now id rather have collie or jacobs instead of baldwin. This is more of a want than what I expect.


Baldwin won't make the roster? He's probably our third best receiver.