There are 85 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

GUESS THE 53!!

  • Kolohe
  • Hall of Fame
  • Posts: 31,136
Where the heck does Eric Wright fit in all this?? I haven't seen one word of his name since being signed.

53 man roster?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Where the heck does Eric Wright fit in all this?? I haven't seen one word of his name since being signed.

53 man roster?

PUP list to start the season from what I've heard.
I think Eric Wright is NFI.
I'm starting to think that we may keep 4 QBs, considering Daniels can play ST and the rest: McCoy is the Day 1 backup, with Wallace getting a chance to beat him in practice, and Daniels as developmental/ST. Once the two receivers are ready to come back, whoever loses between Wallace/McCoy gets chopped.

Far fetched? Perhaps. But I can't shake off the suspicion.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Of those FAs to be, I say the only ones worth keeping are, Manningham, Maybe Wright(depended on if he plays in 2013), C.Johnson(EFA, develop more, maybe makes it next yr due to no Haralson), Williams, Moore, Cox(RFA), Nnamdi, Dawson, and Boldin. Whitner and Goodwin can leave, same with Haralson.

Yeah like we have been discussing I expect a lot of turnover again this year and a lot of new faces for the new stadium. Hopefully we can get at least Iupati extended if not Miller before the 2014 season as he should be cheap. I'd start saving up for our future and if it means losing those guys on the list so be it. I'm fine with letting most go... if reasonable Brown, Boldin, Dawson, Asomugha, Cox, possibly Williams, Moore, Brock and Cam. I also hope we don't go outside for too many guys. I'd rather work on extending the 2015 guys. Just play our game, a few outsiders at bargain prices... take care of our best value guys and best players if reasonable and extend the 2015 guys. I know you said Manningham and nothing against him I actually wanted us to sign him but not sure we can rely on him. guess it depends on what he wants. Might have to choose between him and Williams. I think we would go Williams if that was the choice. Longer in the system, he wants to be here, should be easy to re-sign.

Someone asked about Wright. Not sure if it's an injury or just off the field problems he has to take care of but I think he will go to PUP or NFI and be eligible week 7. If our CB's are doing well might just cut him. If not might bring him on board. Don't think we need him right now the way they are playing. He would be a weak link right now.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM ]
After game 3: A few players have worked themselves into conversations but not much changed for me...yet!

Offense: (25)
QB (3): Colin Kaepernick, Colt McCoy and B.J. Daniels - Note: It will be the Seneca Wallace-show on Thursday (if we get no bidders for McCoy).
RB (4): Frank Gore, LaMichael James, Kendall Hunter and Anthony Dixon; Marcus Lattimore (PUP) - Note: Jewel Hampton had another good game yesterday and is just a work-horse in the Gore-mold. He is a better runner than James at this point IMHO.
FB (1): Bruce Miller - Note: It's very risky not to have a pure FB here. If Miller goes down, we're in big trouble. Dixon is not a good FB/blocker and often times misses pass blocking assignments. Jason Scheplar had a great game yesterday.
WR (6): X = Marlon Moore/Jon Baldwin --- Y = Kyle Williams/Chad Hall --- Z = Anquan Boldin/Quinton Patton; Mario Manningham & Michael Crabtree (PUP) - Note: Hall will be the #6 (he started with the #1's yesterday). BUT, if Lavelle Hawkins shows again on return abilities, he could very well push Hall right off the roster. Even Osgood could be a #7 here to back up Boldin at the Z and be that RZ threat and ST gunner (two tackles yesterday and always around the ball). And this ST unit continues to be under the microscope right now (as it should be).
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald and MarQueis Gray (H-Back) - Note: Garrett Celek is my surprise cut here b/c of the versatility Gray will provide plus he'll be a very good ST players as well. He even wears #46 in the Delanie Walker mold. Celek has not looked good this pre season and dropped another pass yesterday but had fantastic seal blocks. Could we go with 4 TE's and only 5 WR's given VD is going to be lined up "everywhere?"
OT (3): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis and Adam Snyder (Alex Boone); Luke Marquardt (PUP) - Note: Let's pray Marquardt is the real deal b/c right now, we have very poor T's behind the starters and one injury could very well mess with the OL's chemistry. Are we going after a veteran OT?
OG (3): Mike Iupati, Alex Boone and Joe Looney (Adam Snyder) - Note: Looney did not have a good game yesterday.
C (2): Jonathan Goodwin and Daniel Kilgore (Joe Looney) - Note: Jonathan Goodwin played well yesterday still may end up being a late veteran cut or restructures his contract for a backup role if Kilgore continue to play well.

Defense: (25)
DE (3): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald and Demarcus Dobbs; Quinton Dial & Tank Carradine (PUP) - Note: Lawrence Okoye played well yesterday and could very well end up on the PS.
NT (2): Ian Williams and Glenn Dorsey - Note: I anticipate Lamar Divens going to the practice squad to develop ala Ian Williams.
OLB (5): Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Corey Lemonier, Dan Skuta and Cameron Johnson - Note: Parys Haralson was just traded. Now, do we keep 4 OLB's or 5? I'll stay with Fangio's guy at #5 for now.
ILB (4): Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Michael Wilhoite and Nick Moody
CB (6): Tarell Brown, Carlos Rogers, Nnamdi Asomugha, Perrish Cox, Tramaine Brock and Marcus Cooper; Chris Culliver & Eric Wright (PUP) - Note: Darryl Morris is playing very well and has been playing fantastic in practice. It's not over yet. Both Cooper and Morris could very well end up pushing Brock off the roster but it's a long shot right now.
S (5): Donte Whitner, Eric Reid, Craig Dahl, C.J. Spillman and Trenton Robinson - Note: Trenton Robinson had a decent camp but is esp. good on the ST coverage unit.

Special Teams: (3)
PK: Phil Dawson
P: Andy Lee
LS: Kevin McDermott - Note: I go back and forth with Brian Jennings/Kevin McDermott daily...or both not making it at all (to save a roster spot and add ST coverage); Kilgore/Looney/Goodwin can all handle the LS duties opening up another roster spot for ST coverage.

Extras:
Final Spots: Chad Hall, MarQueis Gray, Cameron Johnson and Trenton Robinson are all vying for the final spots. Lavelle Hawkins could very well be in the mix against Hall IF he proves his return abilities (and 6th WR abilities) are for real/consistent.
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 29, 2013 at 6:54 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
After game 3: A few players have worked themselves into conversations but not much changed for me...yet!

Offense: (25)
QB (3): Colin Kaepernick, Colt McCoy and B.J. Daniels - Note: It will be the Seneca Wallace-show on Thursday (if we get no bidders for McCoy).
RB (4): Frank Gore, LaMichael James, Kendall Hunter and Anthony Dixon; Marcus Lattimore (PUP) - Note: Jewel Hampton had another good game yesterday and is just a work-horse in the Gore-mold. He is a better runner than James at this point IMHO.
FB (1): Bruce Miller - Note: It's very risky not to have a pure FB here. If Miller goes down, we're in big trouble. Dixon is not a good FB/blocker and often times misses pass blocking assignments. Jason Scheplar had a great game yesterday.
WR (6): X = Marlon Moore/Jon Baldwin --- Y = Kyle Williams/Chad Hall --- Z = Anquan Boldin/Quinton Patton; Mario Manningham & Michael Crabtree (PUP) - Note: Hall will be the #6 (he started with the #1's yesterday). BUT, if Lavelle Hawkins shows again on return abilities, he could very well push Hall right off the roster. Even Osgood could be a #7 here to back up Boldin at the Z and be that RZ threat and ST gunner (two tackles yesterday and always around the ball). And this ST unit continues to be under the microscope right now (as it should be).
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald and MarQueis Gray (H-Back) - Note: Garrett Celek is my surprise cut here b/c of the versatility Gray will provide plus he'll be a very good ST players as well. He even wears #46 in the Delanie Walker mold. Celek has not looked good this pre season and dropped another pass yesterday but had fantastic seal blocks. Could we go with 4 TE's and only 5 WR's given VD is going to be lined up "everywhere?"
OT (3): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis and Adam Snyder (Alex Boone); Luke Marquardt (PUP) - Note: Let's pray Marquardt is the real deal b/c right now, we have very poor T's behind the starters and one injury could very well mess with the OL's chemistry. Are we going after a veteran OT?
OG (3): Mike Iupati, Alex Boone and Joe Looney (Adam Snyder) - Note: Looney did not have a good game yesterday.
C (2): Jonathan Goodwin and Daniel Kilgore (Joe Looney) - Note: Jonathan Goodwin played well yesterday still may end up being a late veteran cut or restructures his contract for a backup role if Kilgore continue to play well.

Defense: (25)
DE (3): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald and Demarcus Dobbs; Quinton Dial & Tank Carradine (PUP) - Note: Lawrence Okoye played well yesterday and could very well end up on the PS.
NT (3): Ian Williams, Glenn Dorsey and Lamar Divens - Note: Both Dorsey and Divens have stepped up their game and Dorsey can play DE as well. Divens appears to be a pure 2-gap disruptive NT. Even with the 1 game suspension for Dobbs, no need for a guy like Will Tukuafu anymore. Divens next to Williams/Dorsey is a stout DL! That said, Divens did not play yesterday so this could be an open roster spot.
OLB (5): Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Corey Lemonier, Dan Skuta and Cameron Johnson - Note: Parys Haralson is playing really well too but we are shopping him. Do we keep 4 OLB's or 5?
ILB (4): Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Michael Wilhoite and Nick Moody
CB (6): Tarell Brown, Carlos Rogers, Nnamdi Asomugha, Perrish Cox, Tramaine Brock and Daryl Morris; Chris Culliver & Eric Wright (PUP) - Note: Marcus Cooper is playing very disciplined/physical outside (love his size) and Darryl Morris has been playing fantastic in practice. It's not over yet. Both Cooper and Morris could very well end up pushing Brock off the roster but it's a long shot right now.
S (4): Donte Whitner, Eric Reid, Craig Dahl and C.J. Spillman - Note: Trenton Robinson is small/short but is having a decent camp esp. on ST coverage units.

Special Teams: (3)
PK: Phil Dawson
P: Andy Lee
LS: Brian Jennings - Note: I go back and forth with Kevin McDermott and Brian Jennings daily...or both not making it at all (to save a roster spot and add ST coverage)

Oh look who finally came down to reality.

I think Trenton Robinson makes the squad, cut Morris.
If Parys doesn't get traded he makes the team over Cam Johnson. I don't see Cam making it either way.
Hall/Collie/Hawkins is still a toss up. If Hawkins can return punts he may get the benefit there.
I think Tufuaku finds a way to stick around.
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Oh look who finally came down to reality.

I think Trenton Robinson makes the squad, cut Morris.
If Parys doesn't get traded he makes the team over Cam Johnson. I don't see Cam making it either way.
Hall/Collie/Hawkins is still a toss up. If Hawkins can return punts he may get the benefit there.
I think Tufuaku finds a way to stick around.

I didn't change too much (this hour). LOL

Yeah, I have considerded MM's thoughts on keeping 5 S's for ST purposes (Trenton Robinson Raymond Ventrone). I just feel like the teams we face, we'll need more CB's (GB, Seattle, Colts, etc.). And Morris is also a very good ST player. And yeah, I know Fangio loves Cam but enough to keep 5 OLB's? Yeah, I never thought Collie was going to make it but now, Hawkins could be real competition for Hall (who's been running with the 1's). The bottom line is, do we need a 6th WR? And we NEED a dynamic returner. Period. Lots of people think Tufuaku will make it on the 53. I highly highly doubt it but I can understand this viewpoint esp. with Dobbs on the shelf for one game.
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 26, 2013 at 3:52 PM ]
Eric Branch's 53: Interesting...http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/08/26/53-man-projection-preseason-game-provides-clarity-at-qb-wr/

Quarterbacks (3)Colin Kaepernick, Colt McCoy, B.J. Daniels
Cut: Seneca Wallace
Analysis: Yes, I'm guessing when it comes to Daniels, a seventh-round pick who has directed touchdown marches of 90 and 63 yards in four preseason drives (and posted a 120.8 passer rating). I think he's shown enough promise that the 49ers won't cut, expose him to the waiver wire and hope he's not claimed so they can stash him on the practice squad. A possible factor in the decision to keep three QBs: Harbaugh's confidence in McCoy may not exactly be sky high and Daniels could be ready for a big-boy game later in the season.

Running backs/fullbacks (5)Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James, Anthony Dixon, Bruce Miller
Cut: Jewel Hampton, Jason Schepler
Analysis: This is clear cut. The 49ers had to be encouraged by the familiar extra gear Hunter displayed on a 15-yard run Sunday night, eight months after he sustained a torn Achilles.

Wide receivers (6)Anquan Boldin, Kyle Williams, Marlon Moore, Quinton Patton, Jon Baldwin, Kassim Osgood
Cut: Austin Collie, Chad Hall, Lavelle Hawkins, Chuck Jacobs
Analysis: The 49ers devote several roster spots to strictly special-teams players and Osgood, 33, could be a beneficiary. A three-time Pro Bowler as a special-teams ace, Osgood somehow gets down quickly on coverage units despite appearing positively tortoise-like as a wide receiver. If he makes the team, perhaps I can finally solve this riddle.

Tight ends (3)Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald, Garrett Celek
Cut: MarQueis Gray
Analysis: Celek won a surprise roster spot as an undrafted free agent last year and the 49ers value his blocking ability. Celek, however, didn't enhance his chances of sticking around Sunday night by dropping a Colt McCoy pass and drawing a holding call on a field-goal attempt. Still, he's more refined than Gray, a former quarterback/wide receiver at Minnesota who made dramatic improvement at his new position during training camp. Gray appears destined for the practice squad, if he's not claimed off waivers.

Offensive linemen (8)Joe Staley, Anthony Davis, Mike Iupati, Alex Boone, Jonathan Goodwin, Joe Looney, Adam Snyder, Daniel Kilgore
Cut: Carter Bykowski, Kenny Wiggins, Wayne Tribue, Patrick Omameh
Analysis: This is another position group with little intrigue. Bykowski, an unrefined seventh-round pick, could land on the practice squad.

Defensive linemen (6)Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Ian Williams, Glenn Dorsey, Demarcus Dobbs, Tony Jerod-Eddie
Cut: Will Tukuafu, Lamar Divens, Lawrence Okoye
Analysis: Dobbs will be suspended for the season opener, meaning one of the cut-tees (Tukuafu in this fantasy world I'm creating) will have a temporary roster spot. Jerod-Eddie is not a lock, but he earned some unsolicited praise from Jim Harbaugh last week and followed that with a strong performance Sunday. His +1.5 run-defense grade was the team's best against the Vikings, according to Pro Football Focus.

Linebackers (9)ILB: Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Michael Wilhoite, Nick Moody OLB: Ahmad Brooks, Aldon Smith, Parys Haralson, Corey Lemonier, Dan Skuta
Cut: Cam Johnson, Nate Stupar, Travis Johnson
Analysis: A year after then 35-year Clark Haggans was the primary backup outside linebacker, the 49ers are rolling in depth at the position. In fact, they are trying to trade Haralson, CSN Bay Area reported, a clear sign they've been impressed by third-round pick Lemonier. Skuta had two sacks in the preseason opener, but his main role figures to be on special teams, where he carved out a niche with the Bengals the past four seasons.

Cornerbacks (6)Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, Nnamdi Asomugha, Tramaine Brock, Perrish Cox, Marcus Cooper
Cut: Darryl Morris
Analysis: I nearly cut Cooper (no offense, Marcus), but ultimately decided the 49ers will want to develop the seventh-round pick with good size (6-2, 192) and gas-hose arms. The height-challenged Morris (5-10) is a strong practice-squad candidate thanks to his sub-4.4 speed.

Safeties (4)Donte Whitner, Eric Reid, Craig Dahl, C.J. Spillman
Cut: Trenton Robinson, Michael Thomas, Bubba Ventrone
Analysis: I also struggled with this decision, but cut Ventrone, a strictly special-teams player who was with special teams coach Brad Seely in Cleveland and New England. Dahl didn't stand out as a safety this summer, but he also provides value on special teams.

Specialists (3)K Phil Dawson, P Andy Lee, LS Brian Jennings
Cut: LS Kevin McDermott
Analysis: After they rotated snaps in the first two preseason games, McDermott had seven snaps Sunday, five more than Jennings. What to make of this? It's possible the 49ers are giving McDermott, a rookie, every opportunity to prove he's the man for the job in hopes of getting younger and saving some cash. An alternate theory: The ever-reliable Jennings, 36, has secured the spot and he was merely receiving "starter's snaps" in a preseason game.
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM ]
Only surprises in Branch's 53 are Osgood (who cares who the last WR is), Jerod-Eddie, and Cooper. Rest are just common sense.
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Only surprises in Branch's 53 are Osgood (who cares who the last WR is), Jerod-Eddie, and Cooper. Rest are just common sense.

Good point...if Osgood is the #6 he won't be activated on game day, correct? I'm down with Cooper (about to swap out Morris again myself). I want to see one more game. Jerod-Eddie has no chance IMHO. No 4 TE's with VD acting as another WR? Have you done your 53 yet? Sorry if I missed it...
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 26, 2013 at 3:59 PM ]
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Only surprises in Branch's 53 are Osgood (who cares who the last WR is), Jerod-Eddie, and Cooper. Rest are just common sense.

Osgood was for bolstering special teams. Its not a surprise if he makes it.
Guys I hope they keep ... that will probably get cut:

Hampton (I think he is the only RB on the roster besides Gore that can carry the ball 15-20 times a game; if Gore gets injured, I'm not a huge fan of a Hunter/James backfield).

Who I am ok with cutting to keep him: Anthony Dixon (I know he's a great SP guy and has looked good this preseason, but I'd take the younger guy with more upside)

Cooper - his size is a plus and he has had a very consistent preseason.

Who I am ok with cutting to keep him: Parrish Cox

Gray - he has the potential of developing into a very good receiving TE. I don't think he makes it past waivers to our practice squad.

Who I am ok with cutting to keep him: Kyle Williams. Everything I read says that the 3rd TE spot is between Gray and Celek, but I think Harbaugh is more inclined to keep 4 TEs than 6 WRs, especially since Manningham and Crabtree will eventually return. And Harbaugh has a man crush on Celek even with the shaky performance yesterday.

I like Kyle, but I wouldn't keep him over Baldwin or Moore (Boldin and Patton are locks). Thus, the key for the final preseason game is whether Hawkins' return game is consistent. If it is, I think they take Hawkins over Williams.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Only surprises in Branch's 53 are Osgood (who cares who the last WR is), Jerod-Eddie, and Cooper. Rest are just common sense.

Osgood was for bolstering special teams. Its not a surprise if he makes it.

But he would be activated because he would play on ST... our 5th WR wouldn't (probably Moore or Baldwin)
Originally posted by midrdan:
Guys I hope they keep ... that will probably get cut:

Hampton (I think he is the only RB on the roster besides Gore that can carry the ball 15-20 times a game; if Gore gets injured, I'm not a huge fan of a Hunter/James backfield).

Who I am ok with cutting to keep him: Anthony Dixon (I know he's a great SP guy and has looked good this preseason, but I'd take the younger guy with more upside)

Cooper - his size is a plus and he has had a very consistent preseason.

Who I am ok with cutting to keep him: Parrish Cox

Gray - he has the potential of developing into a very good receiving TE. I don't think he makes it past waivers to our practice squad.

Who I am ok with cutting to keep him: Kyle Williams. Everything I read says that the 3rd TE spot is between Gray and Celek, but I think Harbaugh is more inclined to keep 4 TEs than 6 WRs, especially since Manningham and Crabtree will eventually return. And Harbaugh has a man crush on Celek even with the shaky performance yesterday.

I like Kyle, but I wouldn't keep him over Baldwin or Moore (Boldin and Patton are locks). Thus, the key for the final preseason game is whether Hawkins' return game is consistent. If it is, I think they take Hawkins over Williams.

Interesting thoughts...I like Hampton a lot as well. He is just a grinder to me and NFL-ready. I like a lot of other guys too for various reasons such as FB Jason Scheplar. He's like Hampton in that he is a pure backup and similar to the starter (Miller). Lamar Divens (2-gap NT we may need against all the power running teams we face and struggled with last year a bit); Marcus Cooper I've highlighted since game 1 and love D. Morris as well. Cox has played very well all pre season...until yesterday. Brock to me was the one hanging on but again, we need ST support and he is a good one. Dixon has certainly earned it but you never know, he could be one of those surprise cuts (like trying to trade AJ, Haralson and McCoy). We could see something similar with Goodwin too (doubt it). I'd be down with 4 TE's for sure as Gray clearly was working on his blocking assignments yesterday (we know he can catch). Hall? So versatile and reliable esp. in the slot. He's earned it. Hawkins? We need a dynamic returner so badly! And oh yeah, Manningham comes back after week 6. Geesh. All GREAT problems to have but we are going to cut some really good players.