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Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Oh this is retarded. Might as well merge all mock drafts into one. I can't keep track Of anything here with 100 pages...priming the page counter.
I'm going back to Ninersnation.
Well, bye.
He's gone.
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I guess I'll have to be the person that creates a new thread every time I have a thought now that he's gone.
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InconvenientTruth21
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lol
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StOnEy333
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Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Oh this is retarded. Might as well merge all mock drafts into one. I can't keep track Of anything here with 100 pages...priming the page counter.
I'm going back to Ninersnation.
Well, bye.
He's gone.
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LA, there's a few people around here that I wouldn't mind seeing gone. Maybe you could use that trick on them if I provide a list.
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Oh this is retarded. Might as well merge all mock drafts into one. I can't keep track Of anything here with 100 pages...priming the page counter.
I'm going back to Ninersnation.
Well, bye.
He's gone.
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I guess I'll have to be the person that creates a new thread every time I have a thought now that he's gone.
Make sure to inlclude your handle in the title as well... because your important
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AB81Rules
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
LA, there's a few people around here that I wouldn't mind seeing gone. Maybe you could use that trick on them if I provide a list.
I hope I'm not on that list,
Please dont ban me
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Dajanksta
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Originally posted by mod:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Oh this is retarded. Might as well merge all mock drafts into one. I can't keep track Of anything here with 100 pages...priming the page counter.
I'm going back to Ninersnation.
Well, bye.
He's gone.
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I guess I'll have to be the person that creates a new thread every time I have a thought now that he's gone.
Make sure to inlclude your handle in the title as well... because your important
Lmfao. I'm telling you he wanted attention. He's like one if those people that thinks he's famous but he's really not and no one cares.
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by mod:
good nobody likes your posts anyways...
you just explained the reason why these topics get merged.
This place gas the most childish mods I've ever seen in my life.
What does being childish have to do with merging redundant threads
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Oh snap! nickbradley got banned? I liked some of his threads. Too bad he never discovered the "Post Reply" button.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Aug 22, 2013 at 9:50 PM ]
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His 53 was pretty dumb too ... Sure, we'll keep just 2 TEs on a team where the base O uses 2 TEs ... and 10 LBs?!?
Bye.
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I think things are starting to fall into place. I would say the only battles left are:
When I re-watch the game I'll key in on these matchups.
#2 QB McCoy vs Wallace (Daniels #3)
Seems pretty unlikely Wallace would win with only a game, maybe 2 to prove himself. From what I hear he isn't the Wallace from back in Seattle either. Saints fans are saying he was pretty bad and wondered why we picked him up. I guess we are trying to push McCoy and Tolzien but seems like Tolzien is down and out at this point. I mentioned this in another thread but if McCoy makes the team this year not sure I want to re-sign him after this season. I'd rather let Harbaugh draft his own QB to develop along with Daniels. To me why mess with the rest of the league's trash when Harbaugh is one of the better QB developers in the league. I guess only thing in there favor is game experience. Again, I'd rather have someone Harbaugh hand picks and can mold. These guys are probably beyond developing at this point. I think McCoy wins.
#6 WR Collie vs Hall vs Jacobs
I'd say for the past week plus it's been Collie vs Hall for the last spot. Lockette seemed to be fading out; just wasn't making plays although he didn't get a lot of opportunities. Hawkins and Osgood weren't really ever in it IMO. The guys are past there prime and have had very blah careers at the WR spot. Only thing keeping Osgood in this is his ST skills and seems like with Moore making the team we probably don't need him. Jacobs is a long shot but a PS lock and if he can stay on our PS he will have a good shot at the roster next year. I prefer Collie, possibly Jacobs.
#3 TE Gray vs Celek
Went back and watched these two in the Chiefs game. Celek lost some weight, looks like a bigger WR right now. Unfortunately, seems like it hurt his blocking. I think he could be a better receiver than last year but his blocking will be worse. He got thrown around with ease many times during the Chiefs game. Gray is a much thicker body. Gray looked good blocking and will be harder to move around. He's a former QB so he's an athlete who added weight. Usually those guys are better off than a guy who has always been big. He played at probably 215-220ish at Minnesota early on so he's gained like 30 pounds. He seems to still be able to run well but if he makes the team he will get in better shape as the season goes on; not that he is in bad shape or anything. I like Gray better but think they go with Celek.
#5 S Robinson vs Thomas
Whitner, Reid, Dahl, Spillman are all locks. Seems like McBath disappeared this offseason. Ventrone I just don't see him making it; he hasn't got much playing time and has been injured. Michael Thomas has been playing the slot and ST so that's an added bonus for him. I will admit haven't keyed in on these guys two much but I could see Thomas winning. Never been a Robinson fan though. No matter who wins it's will mostly be ST. Spillman and Dahl would get any backup duty or any duty where we bring in an extra safety. Might have to look into upgrading our depth next draft.
#5 OLB Skuta vs Johnson
I think you can make a case for either guy. Skuta is a better ST player but Johnson is 4 years younger and probably has more potential. I'm glad we moved Skuta to OLB as Wilhoite and Moody have been great at ILB. Skuta has been doing solid in the pass rush area but the coverage area is what worries me. Johnson is probably a bit faster but he's a little less bulky. I'd like to see him add some bulk. If he makes the PS and doesn't get picked up he should have a good shot at the #4 OLB spot if Haralson doesn't re-sign. Either way whoever wins will be ST almost entirely. Haralson and Lemonier have been playing outstanding and they will be getting almost all the work at OLB backup. Skuta and Johnson would probably come in if there is a blowout. Forcing me to choose I say Skuta and Johnson heads to the PS.
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
I think things are starting to fall into place. I would say the only battles left are:
When I re-watch the game I'll key in on these matchups.
#2 QB McCoy vs Wallace (Daniels #3)
Seems pretty unlikely Wallace would win with only a game, maybe 2 to prove himself. From what I hear he isn't the Wallace from back in Seattle either. Saints fans are saying he was pretty bad and wondered why we picked him up. I guess we are trying to push McCoy and Tolzien but seems like Tolzien is down and out at this point. I mentioned this in another thread but if McCoy makes the team this year not sure I want to re-sign him after this season. I'd rather let Harbaugh draft his own QB to develop along with Daniels. To me why mess with the rest of the league's trash when Harbaugh is one of the better QB developers in the league. I guess only thing in there favor is game experience. Again, I'd rather have someone Harbaugh hand picks and can mold. These guys are probably beyond developing at this point. I think McCoy wins.
#6 WR Collie vs Hall vs Jacobs
I'd say for the past week plus it's been Collie vs Hall for the last spot. Lockette seemed to be fading out; just wasn't making plays although he didn't get a lot of opportunities. Hawkins and Osgood weren't really ever in it IMO. The guys are past there prime and have had very blah careers at the WR spot. Only thing keeping Osgood in this is his ST skills and seems like with Moore making the team we probably don't need him. Jacobs is a long shot but a PS lock and if he can stay on our PS he will have a good shot at the roster next year. I prefer Collie, possibly Jacobs.
#3 TE Gray vs Celek
Went back and watched these two in the Chiefs game. Celek lost some weight, looks like a bigger WR right now. Unfortunately, seems like it hurt his blocking. I think he could be a better receiver than last year but his blocking will be worse. He got thrown around with ease many times during the Chiefs game. Gray is a much thicker body. Gray looked good blocking and will be harder to move around. He's a former QB so he's an athlete who added weight. Usually those guys are better off than a guy who has always been big. He played at probably 215-220ish at Minnesota early on so he's gained like 30 pounds. He seems to still be able to run well but if he makes the team he will get in better shape as the season goes on; not that he is in bad shape or anything. I like Gray better but think they go with Celek.
#5 S Robinson vs Thomas
Whitner, Reid, Dahl, Spillman are all locks. Seems like McBath disappeared this offseason. Ventrone I just don't see him making it; he hasn't got much playing time and has been injured. Michael Thomas has been playing the slot and ST so that's an added bonus for him. I will admit haven't keyed in on these guys two much but I could see Thomas winning. Never been a Robinson fan though. No matter who wins it's will mostly be ST. Spillman and Dahl would get any backup duty or any duty where we bring in an extra safety. Might have to look into upgrading our depth next draft.
#5 OLB Skuta vs Johnson
I think you can make a case for either guy. Skuta is a better ST player but Johnson is 4 years younger and probably has more potential. I'm glad we moved Skuta to OLB as Wilhoite and Moody have been great at ILB. Skuta has been doing solid in the pass rush area but the coverage area is what worries me. Johnson is probably a bit faster but he's a little less bulky. I'd like to see him add some bulk. If he makes the PS and doesn't get picked up he should have a good shot at the #4 OLB spot if Haralson doesn't re-sign. Either way whoever wins will be ST almost entirely. Haralson and Lemonier have been playing outstanding and they will be getting almost all the work at OLB backup. Skuta and Johnson would probably come in if there is a blowout. Forcing me to choose I say Skuta and Johnson heads to the PS.
I agree, i think the shockers will mirror your thoughts.
QB- McCoy and Tolzien out- Tolzien signed to PS to run scout teams.
WR- Collie not only is the number 6, he catches the third most passes during the season.
Grey is the #3 TE Celek is out of the nFL
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Gore_21, we have some tough cuts to be made for sure.
I will do one right now.
QB- Colin Kaepernick, Seneca Wallace, B.J. Daniels
RB- Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James, Anthony Dixon
FB- Bruce Miller
WR- Anquan Boldin, Marlon Moore, Kyle Williams, Jon Baldwin, Quinton Patton, Austin Collie, Chad Hall
TE- Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald, Marquies Gray
C- Jonathan Goodwin, Daniel Kilgore
OG- Mike Iupati, Alex Boone, Adam Snyder(swing OL, G, C, T), Joe Looney
OT- Anthony Davis, Joe Staley
DE- Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Demarcus Dobbs, Will Tukuafu
NT- Ian Williams, Glen Dorsey, Lamar Divens
OLB- Ahmad Brooks, Aldon Smith, Parys Haralson, Corey Lemonier, Dan Skuta
ILB- Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Michael Wilhoite, Nick Moody
CB- Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, Nnamdi Asomugha, Perrish Cox, Tramaine Brock
S- Eric Reid, Donte Whitner, C.J. Spillman, Craig Dahl
ST- Phil Dawson, Andy Lee, Brian Jennings
PUP- Mario Manningham, Michael Crabtree
IR- Darius Fleming, Chris Culliver, Brandon Carswell, Alex Debniak
NFI- Luke Marquardt, Tank Carradine, Quinton Dial, Marcus Lattimore, Eric Wright
PS- Darryl Morris, Jewel Hampton, Chuck Jacobs, Kenny Wiggins, Al Netter, Cam Johnson, Trenton Robinson, Coltin Schmidt
Inactives week 1- Daniels, Hall, Patton, Looney, Divens, Moody, Brock
After week 1, we cut Divens, activate Dobbs from Suspension Roster Exemption. That's why I have 54 on active roster.
I had a hard time with inactives. Skuta is better on STs. And can backup at ILB if needed.
Hall gets cut when Mario comes back, and idk when Crabs is back, possibly an IR player is placed there if injured. Dont want to see it. But I would think either Brock or Tukuafu would be cut for Crabs.
I went heavy on LBs, because you can never have too many LBs, and short of DL, cause our OLBs can rush as DEs in a hybrid defense.
Tough cut was Garret Celek, but I think Gray has more upside.
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
I think things are starting to fall into place. I would say the only battles left are:
When I re-watch the game I'll key in on these matchups.
#2 QB McCoy vs Wallace (Daniels #3)
Seems pretty unlikely Wallace would win with only a game, maybe 2 to prove himself. From what I hear he isn't the Wallace from back in Seattle either. Saints fans are saying he was pretty bad and wondered why we picked him up. I guess we are trying to push McCoy and Tolzien but seems like Tolzien is down and out at this point. I mentioned this in another thread but if McCoy makes the team this year not sure I want to re-sign him after this season. I'd rather let Harbaugh draft his own QB to develop along with Daniels. To me why mess with the rest of the league's trash when Harbaugh is one of the better QB developers in the league. I guess only thing in there favor is game experience. Again, I'd rather have someone Harbaugh hand picks and can mold. These guys are probably beyond developing at this point. I think McCoy wins.
#6 WR Collie vs Hall vs Jacobs
I'd say for the past week plus it's been Collie vs Hall for the last spot. Lockette seemed to be fading out; just wasn't making plays although he didn't get a lot of opportunities. Hawkins and Osgood weren't really ever in it IMO. The guys are past there prime and have had very blah careers at the WR spot. Only thing keeping Osgood in this is his ST skills and seems like with Moore making the team we probably don't need him. Jacobs is a long shot but a PS lock and if he can stay on our PS he will have a good shot at the roster next year. I prefer Collie, possibly Jacobs.
#3 TE Gray vs Celek
Went back and watched these two in the Chiefs game. Celek lost some weight, looks like a bigger WR right now. Unfortunately, seems like it hurt his blocking. I think he could be a better receiver than last year but his blocking will be worse. He got thrown around with ease many times during the Chiefs game. Gray is a much thicker body. Gray looked good blocking and will be harder to move around. He's a former QB so he's an athlete who added weight. Usually those guys are better off than a guy who has always been big. He played at probably 215-220ish at Minnesota early on so he's gained like 30 pounds. He seems to still be able to run well but if he makes the team he will get in better shape as the season goes on; not that he is in bad shape or anything. I like Gray better but think they go with Celek.
#5 S Robinson vs Thomas
Whitner, Reid, Dahl, Spillman are all locks. Seems like McBath disappeared this offseason. Ventrone I just don't see him making it; he hasn't got much playing time and has been injured. Michael Thomas has been playing the slot and ST so that's an added bonus for him. I will admit haven't keyed in on these guys two much but I could see Thomas winning. Never been a Robinson fan though. No matter who wins it's will mostly be ST. Spillman and Dahl would get any backup duty or any duty where we bring in an extra safety. Might have to look into upgrading our depth next draft.
#5 OLB Skuta vs Johnson
I think you can make a case for either guy. Skuta is a better ST player but Johnson is 4 years younger and probably has more potential. I'm glad we moved Skuta to OLB as Wilhoite and Moody have been great at ILB. Skuta has been doing solid in the pass rush area but the coverage area is what worries me. Johnson is probably a bit faster but he's a little less bulky. I'd like to see him add some bulk. If he makes the PS and doesn't get picked up he should have a good shot at the #4 OLB spot if Haralson doesn't re-sign. Either way whoever wins will be ST almost entirely. Haralson and Lemonier have been playing outstanding and they will be getting almost all the work at OLB backup. Skuta and Johnson would probably come in if there is a blowout. Forcing me to choose I say Skuta and Johnson heads to the PS.
QB - nice one; obviously, we'll all be watching this one. Chances are, Wallace will be taking 3rd and 4th string snaps so it may be even harder to see what he adds (if anything at all). McCoy is so bad right now that I wouldn't even count out Tolzien. Sadly, our OL in both pass protection and run blocking has been very poor so I can't even gauge either fully and the WR's have suffered as well (McDonald has the most catches in a game and that is 4). This is downright pathetic. Also, the FO should be on the hunt for a veteran OT. This may be a bigger need that evern backup QB right now! BJ seems to add value at the #3. They have wanted to use this spot to help on ST coverage units.
ST Coverage and Returners - Lockette was our best gunner on ST this pre season (not just for that solo tackle either). Osgood probably won't make the team and the 3rd standout, Daryl Morris may not make the 53 either. So who the eff are our gunners going to be. This issue continues to be ignored and a VERY large issue for us. And as it seems, every team in the NFL that we play, has one or TWO dynamic returners. We don't have ONE!
WR Collie vs. Hall - experience vs. upside? This will be interesting. Hall has been the MVP so far (still not saying much) but also has no injury issues AND plays ST (returner and coverage units).
TE Celek vs. Gray - I'm fairly confident we will keep both. It appears like we'll only keep 6 WR's and Gray adds much more versatility in the H-back role. He even wears Delanie Walker's old #46.
S Robinson vs Thomas - nothing to see here as Donte Whitner, Eric Reid, Craig Dahl and C.J. Spillman are all locks and that is it. Ventrone was brought in for ST purposes and has been injured all pre season games. Another ST loss for us.
OLB Skuta vs Johnson - Skuta is the #5 lock IMHO b/c he can play OLB, ILB and is a ST ace. Johnson played good but back to the PS he goes.
CB: Tarell Brown, Carlos Rogers, Nnamdi Asomugha, Perrish Cox, Tramaine Brock and Daryl Morris; Chris Culliver & Eric Wright (PUP) - B/c Wright will most likely be put on the PUP list, it opens up a real spot for Darly Morris and or Marcus Cooper who have both played well, disciplined and have great upside and tangibles (Morris and his speed and Cooper with his size and physicality). Morris also is a fantastic gunner on ST's. Can one or both unseat Brock?
NT: Ian Williams, Glenn Dorsey and Lamar Divens - Can Ian solidify himself as the starter and will Dorsey continue to play better and better and don't count out Divens who is out only 2-gapper who has also played well thus far. We may opt to keep him and also go with 3 DE's in Justin Smith, Ray McDonald and Demarcus Dobbs; Quinton Dial & Tank Carradine (PUP) since Dorsey can also play DE.
LS: Do we even need Brian Jennings with Kilgore, Looney and others snapping shot gun the vast majority of the time under C? Could we save this spot for position player?
OT: Do we even have a decent one behind Staley/Davis? Right now the answer is no!
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AB, you are one up on the rest of us because I had no idea that rule existed. I agree seems like these cuts get tougher each year. Just some of the potential hard cuts: Gray or Celek, Cam Johnson, Chuck Jacobs, hopefully Cooper and Morris don't get snatched up, I think Stupar could make another team as 4th ILB, Schmidt should get a shot some where else and added bonus he can kickoff, Collie or Hall (if we keep 6). Was a lot easier back in the dark ages where we had a hard enough time finding 45 guys worthy of the roster. A good chunk of these guys we cut would have made the team back then. I don't even want to take a guess at the 7 inactives. The only guy I can think of is BJ Daniels at 3rd QB. Other than that everyone is worthy of being on the 46 man active roster for game day. Man, wish they would lower it from 7 inactive to like 3-4.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 23, 2013 at 8:51 AM ]