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A KC Review of Dorsey.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Our defense revitalized Rogers career into a pro bowl caliber CB.

Out of all the pickups, I see this pick up with the most potential to have a similar story to Rogers.
I think we can all agree with this.
Originally posted by Wodwo:
The most important thing to take note of in that article is that KC ran a two gap front, which is being phased out of the NFL in favor of one gap attacking fronts.

Many fans still think about 3-4 defensive scheme using outdated techniques and responsibilities. Hell, even "expert" sports analysts often make that mistake.

The concepts most are familiar with, like "Five Technique" and "Zero Technique", are not strict standards anymore. The 49ers defense rarely lines up that way.

The biggest issue I've noticed when fans are talking about defensive "needs" is the enigmatic "True" nose tackle. This concept is pure myth and is a term that fans use because they are thinking in terms of two gap 3-4 schemes. It's something that even the most intelligent and educated of fans continue to preach.

Again, the 49ers defensive scheme utilizes one gap principles. Here is an article that may help in understanding the difference... just ignore some of the players they use as examples:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/
A really good reference book that allowed me to understand a lot more aspects of football is "Take your eye off the ball" by Pat Kirwan. Granted, he's a little jaded towards Pete Carroll, but that is because he worked on his staff before going to Sirius Radio.
Originally posted by Wodwo:
The most important thing to take note of in that article is that KC ran a two gap front, which is being phased out of the NFL in favor of one gap attacking fronts.

Many fans still think about 3-4 defensive scheme using outdated techniques and responsibilities. Hell, even "expert" sports analysts often make that mistake.

The concepts most are familiar with, like "Five Technique" and "Zero Technique", are not strict standards anymore. The 49ers defense rarely lines up that way.

The biggest issue I've noticed when fans are talking about defensive "needs" is the enigmatic "True" nose tackle. This concept is pure myth and is a term that fans use because they are thinking in terms of two gap 3-4 schemes. It's something that even the most intelligent and educated of fans continue to preach.

Again, the 49ers defensive scheme utilizes one gap principles. Here is an article that may help in understanding the difference... just ignore some of the players they use as examples:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/
Great post
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
The most important thing to take note of in that article is that KC ran a two gap front, which is being phased out of the NFL in favor of one gap attacking fronts.

Many fans still think about 3-4 defensive scheme using outdated techniques and responsibilities. Hell, even "expert" sports analysts often make that mistake.

The concepts most are familiar with, like "Five Technique" and "Zero Technique", are not strict standards anymore. The 49ers defense rarely lines up that way.

The biggest issue I've noticed when fans are talking about defensive "needs" is the enigmatic "True" nose tackle. This concept is pure myth and is a term that fans use because they are thinking in terms of two gap 3-4 schemes. It's something that even the most intelligent and educated of fans continue to preach.

Again, the 49ers defensive scheme utilizes one gap principles. Here is an article that may help in understanding the difference... just ignore some of the players they use as examples:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/
Great post

Re-Reading that I think that Dial is going to be a classic 5 technique -- Tall (6'6") long arms, 320 pounds. Not a 0 technique NT (they listed Franklin )
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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Re-Reading that I think that Dial is going to be a classic 5 technique -- Tall (6'6") long arms, 320 pounds. Not a 0 technique NT (they listed Franklin )

I have no idea what they plan for him. If I had to guess, I'd say they'll try him everywhere and he'll end up fitting best at LDE.

Franklin wasn't a zero technique NT when he had success. That's why I said to ignore some of the examples. Franklin was a one gap NT. So was Sopoaga.

Dorsey will be a one gap NT. So will Ian Williams.

Fangio runs an attacking 3-4 front. A classic 5 technique is a read and react player. They initiate contact, hold ground and maintain control over the B and C gaps, read what the offense is doing, and then decide what to do based on the play call. An attacking 3-4 end is assigned a gap at the snap and they work to penetrate instead of holding ground and go after the ball... or just the QB or HB depending on the play call. They line up on the inside shoulder of the tackle, which is "4 technique" usually, but can line up anywhere. It works the same for the NT. One gap NTs usually line up "shaded" to one shoulder of the center. It actually depends on the DC what terminology they use... sometimes it's designated as "1". It's a bit confusing because of the terminology, but the most important thing to remember is one gap vs. two gap.
Guys,

true skill is being able to line up in multiple techniques.

for example, Justin Smith can play the 5 technique...or he can attack. JJ Watt too.

It drives linemen nuts
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