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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Could he be a FB? Maybe not, probably too tall but you put him in the backfield and the possibilities are endless!!
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:Seems to me like Daniels would have to beat out Tolzien to make the team, which I think is unlikely. He will probably end up being our practice squad QB if he clears waivers. And who knows, maybe after a year or two of that he's ready to be a back up QB on the actual roster.
I actually think the 49ers might be higher on Gray and Marquardt than they are on Daniels and Bykowski. It's pretty much just speculation on my part, but that's my read on the situation. I think they drafted the two players they felt less confident in their ability to lock up to UDFA contracts. They pursued the strategy most likely to yield all four players.
The reason I think Marquardt has the edge on Bykowski is simply because of consensus ratings around the web. Most places had Marquardt in the 4-6 rounds, while I haven't found an outlet that projected Bykowski to be drafted.
As for Gray vs. Daniels, it seems Gray has considerably better size and athleticism. Daniels's best shot will be if he can throw quite a bit better than Gray. Neither will make the team if they don't offer QB3 value, in my opinion. In their roles as ST/TE/RB hybrids I don't think they are needed because we already have so many versatile weapons.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:Seems to me like Daniels would have to beat out Tolzien to make the team, which I think is unlikely. He will probably end up being our practice squad QB if he clears waivers. And who knows, maybe after a year or two of that he's ready to be a back up QB on the actual roster.
I actually think the 49ers might be higher on Gray and Marquardt than they are on Daniels and Bykowski. It's pretty much just speculation on my part, but that's my read on the situation. I think they drafted the two players they felt less confident in their ability to lock up to UDFA contracts. They pursued the strategy most likely to yield all four players.
The reason I think Marquardt has the edge on Bykowski is simply because of consensus ratings around the web. Most places had Marquardt in the 4-6 rounds, while I haven't found an outlet that projected Bykowski to be drafted.
As for Gray vs. Daniels, it seems Gray has considerably better size and athleticism. Daniels's best shot will be if he can throw quite a bit better than Gray. Neither will make the team if they don't offer QB3 value, in my opinion. In their roles as ST/TE/RB hybrids I don't think they are needed because we already have so many versatile weapons.
Gray, on the other hand, only needs to beat out Garrett Celek to make the roster, since we normally carry 3 TEs. If he shows some dynamic playmaking ability in the preseason, I could see the 9ers rolling the dice on him over Celek. Celek is pretty dependable, but he's not a dynamic threat. Gray could potentially be a much more dynamic player for us in that 3rd TE role because he's faster, more elusive, and could be used in many more ways, even including passing. Plus, he'd essentially be a 4th QB, or even a 3rd QB on game day if the 9ers elect to not dress their normal 3rd QB.
Of course, this is all just theory based on some youtube movies. So we'll have to see what they look like when mini camps and preseason start.
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:Ok fine, but I don't think either Celek or Morrah gives us much upside.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:Seems to me like Daniels would have to beat out Tolzien to make the team, which I think is unlikely. He will probably end up being our practice squad QB if he clears waivers. And who knows, maybe after a year or two of that he's ready to be a back up QB on the actual roster.
I actually think the 49ers might be higher on Gray and Marquardt than they are on Daniels and Bykowski. It's pretty much just speculation on my part, but that's my read on the situation. I think they drafted the two players they felt less confident in their ability to lock up to UDFA contracts. They pursued the strategy most likely to yield all four players.
The reason I think Marquardt has the edge on Bykowski is simply because of consensus ratings around the web. Most places had Marquardt in the 4-6 rounds, while I haven't found an outlet that projected Bykowski to be drafted.
As for Gray vs. Daniels, it seems Gray has considerably better size and athleticism. Daniels's best shot will be if he can throw quite a bit better than Gray. Neither will make the team if they don't offer QB3 value, in my opinion. In their roles as ST/TE/RB hybrids I don't think they are needed because we already have so many versatile weapons.
Gray, on the other hand, only needs to beat out Garrett Celek to make the roster, since we normally carry 3 TEs. If he shows some dynamic playmaking ability in the preseason, I could see the 9ers rolling the dice on him over Celek. Celek is pretty dependable, but he's not a dynamic threat. Gray could potentially be a much more dynamic player for us in that 3rd TE role because he's faster, more elusive, and could be used in many more ways, even including passing. Plus, he'd essentially be a 4th QB, or even a 3rd QB on game day if the 9ers elect to not dress their normal 3rd QB.
Of course, this is all just theory based on some youtube movies. So we'll have to see what they look like when mini camps and preseason start.
Naw, he has to beat out Cameron Morrah too.
Originally posted by Need4Speed:
He is a ps player at best. People do this every year and drink draft and highlight combine kool aid and somehow see every pick up as making the 53 man roster. This guy is not even likely to make the ps imo. Probably a camp body and cut. But he has some tools and if he is lucky with injuries and works his tale off maybe PS.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:Ok fine, but I don't think either Celek or Morrah gives us much upside.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Originally posted by LieutKaffee:Seems to me like Daniels would have to beat out Tolzien to make the team, which I think is unlikely. He will probably end up being our practice squad QB if he clears waivers. And who knows, maybe after a year or two of that he's ready to be a back up QB on the actual roster.
I actually think the 49ers might be higher on Gray and Marquardt than they are on Daniels and Bykowski. It's pretty much just speculation on my part, but that's my read on the situation. I think they drafted the two players they felt less confident in their ability to lock up to UDFA contracts. They pursued the strategy most likely to yield all four players.
The reason I think Marquardt has the edge on Bykowski is simply because of consensus ratings around the web. Most places had Marquardt in the 4-6 rounds, while I haven't found an outlet that projected Bykowski to be drafted.
As for Gray vs. Daniels, it seems Gray has considerably better size and athleticism. Daniels's best shot will be if he can throw quite a bit better than Gray. Neither will make the team if they don't offer QB3 value, in my opinion. In their roles as ST/TE/RB hybrids I don't think they are needed because we already have so many versatile weapons.
Gray, on the other hand, only needs to beat out Garrett Celek to make the roster, since we normally carry 3 TEs. If he shows some dynamic playmaking ability in the preseason, I could see the 9ers rolling the dice on him over Celek. Celek is pretty dependable, but he's not a dynamic threat. Gray could potentially be a much more dynamic player for us in that 3rd TE role because he's faster, more elusive, and could be used in many more ways, even including passing. Plus, he'd essentially be a 4th QB, or even a 3rd QB on game day if the 9ers elect to not dress their normal 3rd QB.
Of course, this is all just theory based on some youtube movies. So we'll have to see what they look like when mini camps and preseason start.
Naw, he has to beat out Cameron Morrah too.
Also interesting, and possibly related, we just added Ronald Curry as an offensive assistant. That's interesting to me because Curry was a pretty successful college QB to NFL WR conversion player.
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/05/harbaugh-adds-ex-raider-ronald-curry-to-coaching-staff.html
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I saw him out there a couple of times.. he looks MUCH faster than his 4.7 40 time.... really looks like Delanie out there with his shiftiness.
was hoping he'd get some passes thrown his way, hopefully next game.
I'd rather have him than Celek really. If we didn't have McDonald I'd be fine with keeping Celek. I just think Gray can bring something different. I just want to see if he can catch the ball...as well as his run blocking out of the backfield.