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Jaws on ESPN SportsCenter Special

Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
And for the record, I'm no quack. I have a PHD in BS.

Oh, we're well aware of that.
I wonder how many Seahawk fans have added Jaws to their hate list...How dare he not say that Russel Wilson is the GOAT!
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
I have no problem with it being a small portion of our offense, a wrinkle, as you say. But i felt like we became too reliant on it during the playoffs. Felt like we were more effective with Kap under center.

You watched those playoffs and thought that our offense was the problem??!?! We scored 35ppg.
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
Kap will last as long as it takes for defenses to figure out the Pistol, which seemed to be happening late last year.

We need to stick to a traditional WCO, keep Kap under center and run some designed bootlegs, mix in some Pistol every now and then. We can't win running Pistol as our primary offense.

Since when is the Pistol FORMATION the primary 49er offense?? Go back and look at all 10 starts for Keap. Bet they didn't use the Pistol FORMATION more than 25% of the time total. I am so sick of this total and complete misconception that the Pistol FORMATION is the only "offense" the 49ers run with Kaep.
[ Edited by Beeker on Apr 28, 2013 at 6:16 PM ]
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Jaws is dumb

Because he thinks Kaepernick can be the greatest of all time.

No because he says stupid stuff. The two things are not related. But his opinions tend to be extreme like this and are very reactionary in nature. If Kaep had a couple plays go differently and he had lost to ATL or not at least mounted a comeback against BAL, Jaws would probably be calling him a gimmick QB who the league will figure out within a year. And he may very well say such a thing if he has tough game or two during the beginning of the season next year.

It's great to hear someone talk up Kaep, but if a fool calls you a fool (or a genius) what difference does it make? His commentary (to me) has devolved from what at one point was actual analysis to wild random fluctuations of opinion designed to get reactions instead of giving insight.

So basically ALL of ESPN.
He has a lot of talent but I don't think people should crown him the best QB ever after 11 total starts. I think we can safely say he is a good talented QB, but defenses will adapt to him and he'll need to continue to adjust. We should atleast wait until he's done it consistently 3-4 years. Not to mention I've always thought Jaws was dumb/annoying.
Since when is the Pistol FORMATION the primary 49er offense?? Go back and look at all 10 starts for Keap. Bet they didn't use the PistolFORMATION more than 25% of the time total. I am so sick of this total and complete misconception that the Pistol FORMATION is the only "offense" the 49ers run with Kaep.

How much you betting?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000131694/article/san-francisco-49ers-lean-heavily-on-pistol-formation

The 49ers operated out of the pistol formation on 34 of 75 plays from scrimmage in their NFC divisional-round victory over the Green Bay Packers. That 45.3 percent mark was dramatically higher than anything we saw during the regular season. The figure jumped to 54.9 percent against the Atlanta Falcons in the NFC Championship Game, with the 49ersdialing up the option on 28 of 51 plays, according to NFL research.

Keep in mind the 49ers never ran more than 17 plays (30.9 percent) out of the Pistol during a regular season game. That high mark came in a Week 14 win over the Miami Dolphins.
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
Since when is the Pistol FORMATION the primary 49er offense?? Go back and look at all 10 starts for Keap. Bet they didn't use the PistolFORMATION more than 25% of the time total. I am so sick of this total and complete misconception that the Pistol FORMATION is the only "offense" the 49ers run with Kaep.

How much you betting?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000131694/article/san-francisco-49ers-lean-heavily-on-pistol-formation

The 49ers operated out of the pistol formation on 34 of 75 plays from scrimmage in their NFC divisional-round victory over the Green Bay Packers. That 45.3 percent mark was dramatically higher than anything we saw during the regular season. The figure jumped to 54.9 percent against the Atlanta Falcons in the NFC Championship Game, with the 49ersdialing up the option on 28 of 51 plays, according to NFL research.

Keep in mind the 49ers never ran more than 17 plays (30.9 percent) out of the Pistol during a regular season game. That high mark came in a Week 14 win over the Miami Dolphins.

The Niners scored 73 points in these two games. And why did you leave out the Super Bowl?
Article was written before the superbowl.

I'm just saying, we overexposed it and the Ravens pretty much had it covered that first half. Again, I don't mind mixing it in, but IMO we're a much more effective offense with Kap under center and dropping back. With his athletic gifts, he could be that transcendent player in the WCO. Out of that pistol/read formation, the defense is always going to spy him. Have him drop back for passes and play actions and the defense will be caught off guard when he bootlegs it.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
I have no problem with it being a small portion of our offense, a wrinkle, as you say. But i felt like we became too reliant on it during the playoffs. Felt like we were more effective with Kap under center.

You watched those playoffs and thought that our offense was the problem??!?! We scored 35ppg.

Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
Article was written before the superbowl.

I'm just saying, we overexposed it and the Ravens pretty much had it covered that first half. Again, I don't mind mixing it in, but IMO we're a much more effective offense with Kap under center and dropping back. With his athletic gifts, he could be that transcendent player in the WCO. Out of that pistol/read formation, the defense is always going to spy him. Have him drop back for passes and play actions and the defense will be caught off guard when he bootlegs it.

Mission Accomplished
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
Article was written before the superbowl.

I'm just saying, we overexposed it and the Ravens pretty much had it covered that first half. Again, I don't mind mixing it in, but IMO we're a much more effective offense with Kap under center and dropping back. With his athletic gifts, he could be that transcendent player in the WCO. Out of that pistol/read formation, the defense is always going to spy him. Have him drop back for passes and play actions and the defense will be caught off guard when he bootlegs it.

How much did we run it in the first half? I remember being surprised at how little we used the Read Option during the Super Bowl. You're trying REALLY hard to sell a narrative without supporting facts. We were quite literally the highest scoring offense in the playoffs.
I just gave you facts on our usage of the pistol once Kap took over. Don't have the #s for the SB, but obviously the Ravens figured something out that took away what we were doing against the Packers and Falcons.

Our defense did hurt us in the playoffs, for sure. All I'm saying is that it remains to be seen whether the pistol/read is here to stay. Kap is here to stay, but if we're intent on going with that offense, I think it's only a matter of time before defenses are able to stop it. Hope i'm wrong though. I just want us to win.
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
I just gave you facts on our usage of the pistol once Kap took over. Don't have the #s for the SB, but obviously the Ravens figured something out that took away what we were doing against the Packers and Falcons.

Our defense did hurt us in the playoffs, for sure. All I'm saying is that it remains to be seen whether the pistol/read is here to stay. Kap is here to stay, but if we're intent on going with that offense, I think it's only a matter of time before defenses are able to stop it. Hope i'm wrong though. I just want us to win.

We scored 31 points against the Ravens.

You stated that you thought we went to the Pistol too often in the playoffs. We went to it more, and we also scored more. The correlation does not support your narrative. Of course it remains to be seen if it's here to stay. But by saying that it's a gimmick offense, you're doing the exact same thing that others are doing, which is making a premature determination about that.
Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
I just gave you facts on our usage of the pistol once Kap took over. Don't have the #s for the SB, but obviously the Ravens figured something out that took away what we were doing against the Packers and Falcons.

Our defense did hurt us in the playoffs, for sure. All I'm saying is that it remains to be seen whether the pistol/read is here to stay. Kap is here to stay, but if we're intent on going with that offense, I think it's only a matter of time before defenses are able to stop it. Hope i'm wrong though. I just want us to win.

Do you have any support though of why it will go away other than saying it is unproven? In your last post you claimed that the defense will always have a person spying on the qb as if this was a bad thing. If the qb decided to run, then maybe, but this potentially takes a defender out of the play while all 11 people on offense functions as normal.