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Lawrence Okoye Thread of Epic Awesomeness

Originally posted by thl408:
I'm excited to see the outcome of this, but I would not be one bit surprised if he amounts to zilch. It takes more than being a great athlete to make it in the NFL, and to be a good DE you have to know how to take on 300+ pounders while disengaging to wrap up the ball carrier. It's going to be a long process and I hope it doesn't take too much time away from developing Tank or Lemonade.

This, there have been a million workout warriors who actiually produced in college that amounted to jack squat in the NFL. Vernon Gholston anyone? The fact that Okoye is highly intelligent is going to help him immensely, but he's going up against players who are also athletic freaks with many years of coaching and developing their technique, which is a lot better than simply having brute strength. Gonna root for the guy, hope for the guy, but my expectations are low. Prove me wrong Okoye!
Like I said in the other thread, if he makes the team, we have 9 legitimate home games this year.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I think they'll give him any opportunity to put that athleticism to use. That being said, TE is a very cerebral position, and while he's got the brains, I think it would take longer for him to pick it up than D-line. Holy s**t though, can you imagine a guy his size, strength, and speed barreling down the middle of the field?! I love the idea!

I almost fell like it is easier to become a TE without having played football than it is to become a DE. All the basketball players step in at TE and succeed because of athleticism, strength, and size. This guy has all of those. Lots of super-freak DEs that dont make it cause they can bend/flex/use their hands to beat past tackles. IF he can catch, I think I'd start working him as a situational TE/FB/extra blocker and if he can't cath you move him to DE/5 technique and go from there.
f**k yeah!!!!!!!!!!
Posted this in the draft forum:

Monster athlete vs skilled professional...

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Originally posted by DarkKnight1680:
Originally posted by jimrat:
Guy is around 300lbs

I think he will likely slim down a bit, building mass for discus is different than football. Less cardio! But really, at say 285-290 and 4.75 speed, why is his weight an issue at TE? Inline blocking at 290? Sounds good! Speed down the field at 4.75? Good enough for me!

Its not an issue but guys that have been playing football all there lives (Delani,V.Mcdonald) have trouble catching passes can you imagine this guy trying to catch a Kaepernick pass lol, this guy is perfect for DL/OL
[ Edited by jimrat on Apr 27, 2013 at 8:16 PM ]
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Posted this in the draft forum:

Monster athlete vs skilled professional...



You're assuming Okoye isn't a skilled performer. That's the question that remains to be seen.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Posted this in the draft forum:

Monster athlete vs skilled professional...


If he was a first rounder, your hesitation could be warranted. But he's a udfa. He learns, he learns. He doesn't, cut him.
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by 190836:
What position? DL?
Originally posted by jimrat:

he is huge!!

My friends, the great experiment.



And then CroCop goes on to get his handed to him by a bunch of no-names in the UFC.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Originally posted by thl408:
I'm excited to see the outcome of this, but I would not be one bit surprised if he amounts to zilch. It takes more than being a great athlete to make it in the NFL, and to be a good DE you have to know how to take on 300+ pounders while disengaging to wrap up the ball carrier. It's going to be a long process and I hope it doesn't take too much time away from developing Tank or Lemonade.

This, there have been a million workout warriors who actiually produced in college that amounted to jack squat in the NFL. Vernon Gholston anyone? The fact that Okoye is highly intelligent is going to help him immensely, but he's going up against players who are also athletic freaks with many years of coaching and developing their technique, which is a lot better than simply having brute strength. Gonna root for the guy, hope for the guy, but my expectations are low. Prove me wrong Okoye!

You mentioned the intelligence, but you forgot the hard-working intangibles and track record for absorbing a highly technical sport in a short period of time at a world class level.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
This is what happens when a monster human being with no skill tries to compete with a skilled athlete...


That is just... not analogous at all.
Originally posted by jimrat:
Originally posted by DarkKnight1680:
Originally posted by jimrat:
Guy is around 300lbs

I think he will likely slim down a bit, building mass for discus is different than football. Less cardio! But really, at say 285-290 and 4.75 speed, why is his weight an issue at TE? Inline blocking at 290? Sounds good! Speed down the field at 4.75? Good enough for me!

Its not an issue but guys that have been playing football all there lives (Delani,V.Mcdonald) have trouble catching passes can you imagine this guy trying to catch a Kaepernick pass lol, this guy is perfect for DL/OL

So how did Gates get so good at catching? It wasn't from playing college football, since he didn't. Some guys can catch and some guys can't. We just dont know with Okoye which it is. If he struggles catching the ball, you keep him away from offense - not a hard call. But if he shows some aptitude with his hands (and as a guy who played rugby and who was an olympian in a sport that involved manipulating a heavy object with his hands, I believe he may have some aptitude), then I think TE is his most interesting position in the NFL.
Originally posted by DarkKnight1680:
So how did Gates get so good at catching? It wasn't from playing college football, since he didn't. Some guys can catch and some guys can't. We just dont know with Okoye which it is. If he struggles catching the ball, you keep him away from offense - not a hard call. But if he shows some aptitude with his hands (and as a guy who played rugby and who was an olympian in a sport that involved manipulating a heavy object with his hands, I believe he may have some aptitude), then I think TE is his most interesting position in the NFL.


Gates played basketball. Ever try to catch a basketball that was thrown like a dart?

And we have McDonald, who is only 30 or so lbs lighter than this guy but just as fast. Are those 30 lbs going to make such a dramatic difference?
If he wants to play American Football he should gain 30 pounds and learn to play tackle, dudes hips are tight as hell. I could LMAO watching JJ Watt run circles around him, can we set that up.