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Lawrence Okoye Thread of Epic Awesomeness

The practice squad was invented for guys like Okyoe. Excited to see him tomorrow.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by Eli_23:


We should put him on our 53 also. I mean look at his muscles. He can obviously play pro football.

I believe that's Bob Sapp, who actually WAS an NFL player in the late 90's.
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Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by Garcia:
If we put Okoye on the PS, he has to clear waivers, the rule is whoever picks him up on waivers has to have him on the 53 man roster, like we did with Tolzien from San Diego.

I seriously doubt anyone would claim Okoye because he wont be ready for even a special teams role.

Picking him up for the 53 man roster is just the type of move the Seahawks would make. It both destabilizes what the Niners are trying to achieve with a freakish physical talent and gets under the Niners skin. It's the kind of pyschological game that Pete Caroll likes to play. (Both teams do it to each other to be honest). If Okoye shows promise, and he arguably already has, the Niners may well have to stash him on their 53man roster (as one of the inactives on game day) to keep him.

Not everyone on the 53 man roster has to be a contributor. Recall all the TEs that NE picked up and stashed (Ballard was even coming off an injury and could not have contributed anyway) when they had their all-pro starters young and healthy a couple of years ago.

Depending upon the injury situation, the Niners may be having to make some tough choices come time to cut down to 53.

That's exactly it. Okoye also is not going to fly under the radar. Teams are well aware who he is because of his freakish athletic ability, and will track his progress throughout the offseason. He's already generating a lot of coverage from our beat writers. If he shows anything giving us the impression he has what it takes to succeed in this league, and possibly be great one day, we aren't going to waste the early development and time we've achieved with the young man and risk losing him to another team. We have to remember that it's his potential that is his current value. If we see that potential turning into greatness, we are putting him on the 53 even if he's not going to contribute for a few months while he learns the craft.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
That's exactly it. Okoye also is not going to fly under the radar. Teams are well aware who he is because of his freakish athletic ability, and will track his progress throughout the offseason. He's already generating a lot of coverage from our beat writers. If he shows anything giving us the impression he has what it takes to succeed in this league, and possibly be great one day, we aren't going to waste the early development and time we've achieved with the young man and risk losing him to another team. We have to remember that it's his potential that is his current value. If we see that potential turning into greatness, we are putting him on the 53 even if he's not going to contribute for a few months while he learns the craft.

what's tough is who's roster spot would he take? Tukuafu, Dobbs, ... or would we only keep 5 WRs? I understand your point, but our 53 man roster is pretty tough to crack right now...

PS games will be telling. If he can generate good pressure, after only a handful of practices, I think we have to keep him, so he can develop, because a team like Jax, Phi, or Buf will have room on their depleted rosters.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
That's exactly it. Okoye also is not going to fly under the radar. Teams are well aware who he is because of his freakish athletic ability, and will track his progress throughout the offseason. He's already generating a lot of coverage from our beat writers. If he shows anything giving us the impression he has what it takes to succeed in this league, and possibly be great one day, we aren't going to waste the early development and time we've achieved with the young man and risk losing him to another team. We have to remember that it's his potential that is his current value. If we see that potential turning into greatness, we are putting him on the 53 even if he's not going to contribute for a few months while he learns the craft.

what's tough is who's roster spot would he take? Tukuafu, Dobbs, ... or would we only keep 5 WRs? I understand your point, but our 53 man roster is pretty tough to crack right now...

PS games will be telling. If he can generate good pressure, after only a handful of practices, I think we have to keep him, so he can develop, because a team like Jax, Phi, or Buf will have room on their depleted rosters.

I think it's Tukuafu right now. Him and Dobbs have had plenty of time to develop, if they aren't where we want them to be, one will be gone. We'll see in the preseason. But yeah, we are going to have a tough decision when we have to bring guys back from the PUP anyway with Dial and Carradine potentially in the mix. So I think the writing is on the wall for a guy like Tukuafu. Dobbs is going to have to really impress to stick around as well.
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Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by Garcia:
If we put Okoye on the PS, he has to clear waivers, the rule is whoever picks him up on waivers has to have him on the 53 man roster, like we did with Tolzien from San Diego.

I seriously doubt anyone would claim Okoye because he wont be ready for even a special teams role.

Picking him up for the 53 man roster is just the type of move the Seahawks would make. It both destabilizes what the Niners are trying to achieve with a freakish physical talent and gets under the Niners skin. It's the kind of pyschological game that Pete Caroll likes to play. (Both teams do it to each other to be honest). If Okoye shows promise, and he arguably already has, the Niners may well have to stash him on their 53man roster (as one of the inactives on game day) to keep him.

Not everyone on the 53 man roster has to be a contributor. Recall all the TEs that NE picked up and stashed (Ballard was even coming off an injury and could not have contributed anyway) when they had their all-pro starters young and healthy a couple of years ago.

Depending upon the injury situation, the Niners may be having to make some tough choices come time to cut down to 53.

That's exactly it. Okoye also is not going to fly under the radar. Teams are well aware who he is because of his freakish athletic ability, and will track his progress throughout the offseason. He's already generating a lot of coverage from our beat writers. If he shows anything giving us the impression he has what it takes to succeed in this league, and possibly be great one day, we aren't going to waste the early development and time we've achieved with the young man and risk losing him to another team. We have to remember that it's his potential that is his current value. If we see that potential turning into greatness, we are putting him on the 53 even if he's not going to contribute for a few months while he learns the craft.

Any team dumb enough to put this guy on a 53-man roster, wasting a spot recklessly, can have him. They will only be doing a disservice to their team. Let him go if thats the case.


I'd rather give the last spot to a guy like BJ Daniels, where reports he has many suitors if he hits waivers.
[ Edited by Garcia on Aug 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM ]
It will be interesting to see if Okoye gets some kind of "injury" and has to go on IR or PUP for this season. I wouldn't call a team "dumb" to put him on their 53. He's got freakish size, strength and quickness. If he really is a quick learner, we may be looking at a real story here.
[ Edited by GNielsen on Aug 7, 2013 at 11:06 AM ]
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
It will be interesting to see if Okoye gets some kind of "injury" and has to go on IR or PUP for this season.

doubt it, he wont be able to practice, defeats the purpose.
Originally posted by Garcia:
doubt it, he wont be able to practice, defeats the purpose.

That's true, but he would be able to work with specialists one-on-one and learn the mental aspects of the game. He's had very little exposure to the complexity of the game - to spend the year watching the players do what they do and studying strategy might be just what he needs because physically, he seems to be there. My only concern was if he could take being hit NFL style which is on its own plane. He seems to be able to take the contact without falling down and crying so I think they probably see some massive potential there.
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Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by Garcia:
If we put Okoye on the PS, he has to clear waivers, the rule is whoever picks him up on waivers has to have him on the 53 man roster, like we did with Tolzien from San Diego.

I seriously doubt anyone would claim Okoye because he wont be ready for even a special teams role.

Picking him up for the 53 man roster is just the type of move the Seahawks would make. It both destabilizes what the Niners are trying to achieve with a freakish physical talent and gets under the Niners skin. It's the kind of pyschological game that Pete Caroll likes to play. (Both teams do it to each other to be honest). If Okoye shows promise, and he arguably already has, the Niners may well have to stash him on their 53man roster (as one of the inactives on game day) to keep him.

Not everyone on the 53 man roster has to be a contributor. Recall all the TEs that NE picked up and stashed (Ballard was even coming off an injury and could not have contributed anyway) when they had their all-pro starters young and healthy a couple of years ago.

Depending upon the injury situation, the Niners may be having to make some tough choices come time to cut down to 53.

That's exactly it. Okoye also is not going to fly under the radar. Teams are well aware who he is because of his freakish athletic ability, and will track his progress throughout the offseason. He's already generating a lot of coverage from our beat writers. If he shows anything giving us the impression he has what it takes to succeed in this league, and possibly be great one day, we aren't going to waste the early development and time we've achieved with the young man and risk losing him to another team. We have to remember that it's his potential that is his current value. If we see that potential turning into greatness, we are putting him on the 53 even if he's not going to contribute for a few months while he learns the craft.

Any team dumb enough to put this guy on a 53-man roster, wasting a spot recklessly, can have him. They will only be doing a disservice to their team. Let him go if thats the case.


I'd rather give the last spot to a guy like BJ Daniels, where reports he has many suitors if he hits waivers.

How do you know it would be dumb for a team to put him on their 53? We haven't even seen what he can do yet. Why don't we wait to see how the preseason unfolds before we start questioning the intelligence of his potential suitors. Garce gonna Garce.
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Originally posted by AmpLee:
How do you know it would be dumb for a team to put him on their 53? We haven't even seen what he can do yet. Why don't we wait to see how the preseason unfolds before we start questioning the intelligence of his potential suitors. Garce gonna Garce.

Dude is probably the worst player in the NFL right now. And miles from the 2nd worst player who has probably played this game his whole life.

He won't make the 53 and any team that wastes a spot on him aren't doing there jobs.
Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
How do you know it would be dumb for a team to put him on their 53? We haven't even seen what he can do yet. Why don't we wait to see how the preseason unfolds before we start questioning the intelligence of his potential suitors. Garce gonna Garce.

Dude is probably the worst player in the NFL right now. And miles from the 2nd worst player who has probably played this game his whole life.

He won't make the 53 and any team that wastes a spot on him aren't doing there jobs.

None of us know for sure how good he could be... so saying he's miles behind EVERY other player in the league is based totally on opinion. The Niners wouldn't have brought him in without at least some interest. Let's see how he fairs in the preseason before we make any definitive statements.
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Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
How do you know it would be dumb for a team to put him on their 53? We haven't even seen what he can do yet. Why don't we wait to see how the preseason unfolds before we start questioning the intelligence of his potential suitors. Garce gonna Garce.

Dude is probably the worst player in the NFL right now. And miles from the 2nd worst player who has probably played this game his whole life.

He won't make the 53 and any team that wastes a spot on him aren't doing there jobs.

Worst player in the NFL? Truth be told, we really don't know where he's at until we see him, so spare us your omniscient b******t.
Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
How do you know it would be dumb for a team to put him on their 53? We haven't even seen what he can do yet. Why don't we wait to see how the preseason unfolds before we start questioning the intelligence of his potential suitors. Garce gonna Garce.

Dude is probably the worst player in the NFL right now. And miles from the 2nd worst player who has probably played this game his whole life.

He won't make the 53 and any team that wastes a spot on him aren't doing there jobs.

This is dead on correct. That said, I really want to see him play in the preseason, just to see what he does
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Originally posted by FrankGoreHOF:
Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
How do you know it would be dumb for a team to put him on their 53? We haven't even seen what he can do yet. Why don't we wait to see how the preseason unfolds before we start questioning the intelligence of his potential suitors. Garce gonna Garce.

Dude is probably the worst player in the NFL right now. And miles from the 2nd worst player who has probably played this game his whole life.

He won't make the 53 and any team that wastes a spot on him aren't doing there jobs.

This is dead on correct. That said, I really want to see him play in the preseason, just to see what he does

Why even watch him this preseason if you already know how bad he is. Sounds like he's a waste of time since he's miles away from being the second worst player in the entire NFL. We might as well cut him now.