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Lawrence Okoye Thread of Epic Awesomeness

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First play, I'd like to just see him power bull rush an OT as a barometer of where he measures up.
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Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Which rule?

That a player has to clear waivers before he can be signed to the practice squad?

Or something else?

I presume you know how waivers work? You couldn't mean that a player can refuse to go to the team that claims him off waivers? Although it does seem like you may be meaning that.

I'm sorry, can you explain the point of rule that you are discussing? If we do not put Okoye on our roster when we go to 53 at end of preseason, do other teams have an opportunity to offer him a contract? Or is he exposed only if he goes from our 45 to practice squad? In other words we put him on the roster first.

If there is a link could you provide? Thx.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I'm sorry, can you explain the point of rule that you are discussing? If we do not put Okoye on our roster when we go to 53 at end of preseason, do other teams have an opportunity to offer him a contract? Or is he exposed only if he goes from our 45 to practice squad? In other words we put him on the roster first.

If there is a link could you provide? Thx.

If we put Okoye on the PS, he has to clear waivers, the rule is whoever picks him up on waivers has to have him on the 53 man roster, like we did with Tolzien from San Diego.

I seriously doubt anyone would claim Okoye because he wont be ready for even a special teams role.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Which rule?

That a player has to clear waivers before he can be signed to the practice squad?

Or something else?

I presume you know how waivers work? You couldn't mean that a player can refuse to go to the team that claims him off waivers? Although it does seem like you may be meaning that.

I'm sorry, can you explain the point of rule that you are discussing? If we do not put Okoye on our roster when we go to 53 at end of preseason, do other teams have an opportunity to offer him a contract? Or is he exposed only if he goes from our 45 to practice squad? In other words we put him on the roster first.

If there is a link could you provide? Thx.

I'm not sure . . . but I think Valrod may know. I believe that he may be suggesting that because Okoye was signed as an undrafted free agent rather than as a drafted player, he may be treated differently when it comes to waiver rules. I don't think so in Okoye's case, he gets the same treatment that Tolzien (also an UDFA) received.

Waiver rules are n/a in the case of certain "vested" veterans.

Not sure. But I don't care enough to look it up.
[ Edited by Rsrkshn on Aug 6, 2013 at 4:00 PM ]
get ready for all the penalties
Wouldn't FB/TE/H-Back be a better position for a rugby convert? I mean, blocking and catching check down passes is way easier than pass rushing. There are lots of very good NFL D-linemen that aren't effective pass rushers (see: Dorsey, Glenn).
Originally posted by Young2Rice4TD:
Wouldn't FB/TE/H-Back be a better position for a rugby convert? I mean, blocking and catching check down passes is way easier than pass rushing. There are lots of very good NFL D-linemen that aren't effective pass rushers (see: Dorsey, Glenn).

From a mental standpoint d-line is as easy as it gets... Which will allow him to develop his understanding of the game. Plus, D-end is the most suitable for his size.
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Which rule?

That a player has to clear waivers before he can be signed to the practice squad?

Or something else?

I presume you know how waivers work? You couldn't mean that a player can refuse to go to the team that claims him off waivers? Although it does seem like you may be meaning that.

I'm sorry, can you explain the point of rule that you are discussing? If we do not put Okoye on our roster when we go to 53 at end of preseason, do other teams have an opportunity to offer him a contract? Or is he exposed only if he goes from our 45 to practice squad? In other words we put him on the roster first.

If there is a link could you provide? Thx.

I'm not sure . . . but I think Valrod may know. I believe that he may be suggesting that because Okoye was signed as an undrafted free agent rather than as a drafted player, he may be treated differently when it comes to waiver rules. I don't think so in Okoye's case, he gets the same treatment that Tolzien (also an UDFA) received.

Waiver rules are n/a in the case of certain "vested" veterans.

Not sure. But I don't care enough to look it up.

He would have to clear waivers. He can not deny a waiver claim. Only after clearing waivers would he be eligible for the practice squad and once placed on the practice squad can deny a claim from another team is he prefers to.
http://sulia.com/mattbarrows/f/dc6f1a57-5493-420b-b6d4-c1b1269484c5/?source=twitter&guid=dc6f1a57-5493-420b-b6d4-c1b1269484c5

Here's why local reporters are hoping rookie Lawrence Okoye makes the #49ers roster in some form this season ...

Asked where things stand in his development, the 49ers defensive end said, "The first step was to get to a position where I can be looked upon as a really bad football player. And I think we're getting to that stage. I can say I'm a bad football player now. That's a good step for me. … I'm pretty happy where I am at the moment." The 49ers were drawn to Okoye, who had never worn a football helmet until May, not only because of his 6-5, 305-pound frame but because he has proven to be a quick learner in the past. Okoye took up the discus at age 18. By age 20 he was representing Britain in the Olympics. Was he also a bad discus thrower when he began that sport? "I was terrible. I was awful," Okoye said. "I wouldn't even call myself a discus thrower. I was a ... I don't know. I was really bad."
Originally posted by leon49:
http://sulia.com/mattbarrows/f/dc6f1a57-5493-420b-b6d4-c1b1269484c5/?source=twitter&guid=dc6f1a57-5493-420b-b6d4-c1b1269484c5

Here's why local reporters are hoping rookie Lawrence Okoye makes the #49ers roster in some form this season ...

Asked where things stand in his development, the 49ers defensive end said, "The first step was to get to a position where I can be looked upon as a really bad football player. And I think we're getting to that stage. I can say I'm a bad football player now. That's a good step for me. … I'm pretty happy where I am at the moment." The 49ers were drawn to Okoye, who had never worn a football helmet until May, not only because of his 6-5, 305-pound frame but because he has proven to be a quick learner in the past. Okoye took up the discus at age 18. By age 20 he was representing Britain in the Olympics. Was he also a bad discus thrower when he began that sport? "I was terrible. I was awful," Okoye said. "I wouldn't even call myself a discus thrower. I was a ... I don't know. I was really bad."

He gets it. Baby steps.
Originally posted by Eli_23:


We should put him on our 53 also. I mean look at his muscles. He can obviously play pro football.
Originally posted by Garcia:
If we put Okoye on the PS, he has to clear waivers, the rule is whoever picks him up on waivers has to have him on the 53 man roster, like we did with Tolzien from San Diego.

I seriously doubt anyone would claim Okoye because he wont be ready for even a special teams role.

Picking him up for the 53 man roster is just the type of move the Seahawks would make. It both destabilizes what the Niners are trying to achieve with a freakish physical talent and gets under the Niners skin. It's the kind of pyschological game that Pete Caroll likes to play. (Both teams do it to each other to be honest). If Okoye shows promise, and he arguably already has, the Niners may well have to stash him on their 53man roster (as one of the inactives on game day) to keep him.

Not everyone on the 53 man roster has to be a contributor. Recall all the TEs that NE picked up and stashed (Ballard was even coming off an injury and could not have contributed anyway) when they had their all-pro starters young and healthy a couple of years ago.

Depending upon the injury situation, the Niners may be having to make some tough choices come time to cut down to 53.
[ Edited by Rsrkshn on Aug 7, 2013 at 3:46 AM ]
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Tomorrow, assuming that he actually plays, will be a historic day for Lawrence Okoye.

I wish him the best of luck.
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don't underestimate okoye's ability to learn quickly; he also has a powerful brain.