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Lawrence Okoye Thread of Epic Awesomeness

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Watching this video, had a few thoughts,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7mhfGs3Bc

!, Okyoe should be ready for the speed and violence.
2, Football tackling is looking less like it did when I was a kid in the 79's-80s' and looking more like Rugby tackling.
3, If the league wants less injury, and more scoring, and a faster game, get rid of helmets and pads. (keep all the rules the same)

LMFAO.....TBPH, 90% of those hits are uncommon rugby (watch any typical rugby game, head-on, high speed, high-impact hits are an exception to the norm) and the more lateral, sideline -to-sideline action of the game means most defensive stops on ballcarriers are side-hits or more often than not, pulling them down from behind. if they are hit from up front, its usually getting stood up and pulled down by 1-2 defenders, and a lot of the time the ballcarrier has already relinquished the ball to a teammate so as to catch the other team offguard. the lack of forward passing also takes away any offensive players getting hung up to dry and defenders lining them up for a "whoo-hit". bottom-line it is rare you see players getting blasted in rugby, that video is a misconstrued representation of the sport.


Those look like professional Rugby players to me. To my knowledge Okoye has never played professional Rugby, nor minor league Rugby, nor college Rugby. He has only played in 18 and under Rugby (the kid's league).

It's like me saying I played high school football and then bringing in a video of NFL highlights to show the types of hits I had to sustain.
[ Edited by BrianGO on Jul 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM ]
You would think discus training would work balance, explosivity. Does twirling translate to lateral movement?
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Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

i even got a good laugh out of that
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Great video! I loved playing both of these sports and both were very violent in their manner...can't say one was worse than the other. The main difference, in my experience, are the head first hits that happen in football--but are not suppose to happen in football. The NFL is legislating to remove these head first hits and I totally agree that going back to leather helmets would prevent the damage to ears (Rugby) and eliminate use as a weapon (football).

soft helmets and minimal pads will pretty much fix the concussion problem; the rate will go way down.
the problem is facial protection. i don't know how many nfl players will put up with getting there pretty faces roughed up.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
You would think discus training would work balance, explosivity. Does twirling translate to lateral movement?

in discus throwing, it actually helps to be tightly-wound; it helps with energy transfer.
athletic ability is probably the third thing you look for in a thrower behind wingspan and the ability to attain high-level technical prowess.
all three are important, but if you can't learn and refine technique, you have no hope.

what impresses me most about okoye is that he learned and refined his discus technique to elite level so quickly. he was there in a couple years; that is RARE. most people take 2 or 3 times that long to work everything out.
if he can do that on a football field, he's got a decent shot.
Originally posted by xcfan:
in discus throwing, it actually helps to be tightly-wound; it helps with energy transfer.
athletic ability is probably the third thing you look for in a thrower behind wingspan and the ability to attain high-level technical prowess.
all three are important, but if you can't learn and refine technique, you have no hope.

what impresses me most about okoye is that he learned and refined his discus technique to elite level so quickly. he was there in a couple years; that is RARE. most people take 2 or 3 times that long to work everything out.
if he can do that on a football field, he's got a decent shot.


ok thanks. Do you know who worked with him? Is he part of his training team here?
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[ Edited by SoCal9er on Jul 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM ]
Practice squad is likely his best shot. However I can absolutely see him being cut.
Okoye's a huge project...and fans expecting to see him on the roster may well be disillusioned. He'd have to beat out a player who's been in football for years...a not-very-likely scenario. He may even have a tough time landing on the PS...that's what I see as the reality of the situation.
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Okoye's a huge project...and fans expecting to see him on the roster may well be disillusioned. He'd have to beat out a player who's been in football for years...a not-very-likely scenario. He may even have a tough time landing on the PS...that's what I see as the reality of the situation.

I would not say delusional. I actually think it is ridiculous to pigeon-hole every player as a minimum 3 year project. If he gets individual attention for 6 months, he should be ready to contribute at some level as long as his athletic ability allows him to. If talented enough, any player can contribute at any point depending on his role.

Of course, we don't expect this dude to be able to learn and apply the entire playbook. THAT is the project. But if you don't believe players can specialize at something within months, then I think that is delusional. Some players get things after a few months, some players who have played their entire life may take 3 years in the NFL game, and some athletes, no matter how little experience they have, are able to contribute immediately if coached properly and used strategically.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Okoye's a huge project...and fans expecting to see him on the roster may well be disillusioned. He'd have to beat out a player who's been in football for years...a not-very-likely scenario. He may even have a tough time landing on the PS...that's what I see as the reality of the situation.

I would not say delusional. I actually think it is ridiculous to pigeon-hole every player as a minimum 3 year project. If he gets individual attention for 6 months, he should be ready to contribute at some level as long as his athletic ability allows him to. If talented enough, any player can contribute at any point depending on his role.

Of course, we don't expect this dude to be able to learn and apply the entire playbook. THAT is the project. But if you don't believe players can specialize at something within months, then I think that is delusional. Some players get things after a few months, some players who have played their entire life may take 3 years in the NFL game, and some athletes, no matter how little experience they have, are able to contribute immediately if coached properly and used strategically.
Waste of a roster spot for a one trick pony. Best case scenario is Practice squad
The point I was trying to make was Okoye's a big longshot to make the team...possibly even the PS. Who's he going to beat out?
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Waste of a roster spot for a one trick pony. Best case scenario is Practice squad
agree,, also as many have said. who exactly is he supposed to beat out?
51 pages for a PS player. how did this get so out of hand?
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