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Lawrence Okoye Thread of Epic Awesomeness

Originally posted by pd24:
The big white is biiger than Okyoe. We should get him too.

we should get her (for surviving this double team)
  • Garcia
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this dude a starter yet?

he's the only olympian on the roster.
I agree that rugby is violent, but because of the helmets and pads, the velocity in American football is a completely different deal. It's the hitting that I wonder about. If he can take the hitting, he might be able to adapt. But, he's also got to learn to play the game. It's a very complicated game - much more complex and complicated than a lot of people think.
Agree with that totally GNielsen! It is a very long shot for him to make even the PS. So many technical aspects of the game are overlooked. That is where I see him struggling most...the nuances of playing the position--very steep learning curve.
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While I'm sure he'll be able to master the physical aspect of the sport, what concerns me in regards to Okoye's growth and development is that there simply isn't enough TIME for him to learn the game of football MENTALLY. Even if he's a classroom whiz, certainly, there's not much evidence present to suggest he'd be on the MENTAL level of another potential PS player. I'd be more confident if he hadn't played American football before but was a avid follower of the sport since childhood....but that's not the case. He's literally BRAND SPANKIN NEW....and that concerns me.
The best way to get Okoye's talents on the field is to line him at FB, pitch out to Gore who pitches it further out to Okoye Rugby style. Or pitch it to him for a drop kick FG.
Originally posted by Garcia:
this dude a starter yet?

he's the only olympian on the roster.

That is if you don't count Vernon Davis and his shuffleboard on ice team.

[ Edited by KowboyKiller on Jul 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM ]
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Originally posted by pd24:
The big white is biiger than Okyoe. We should get him too.

british record holder in the shot put. known steroid user.
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i don't know where he'll end up.
physically, he's a big, linear sprinter.
we're going to find that he has mediocre lateral movement and mediocre ankle flexion. with his height and joint stiffness, he's going to have a hard time holding leverage in the trenches. he should do fine in a wide, rush lane. he should also get some reps at TE and OT, just to see if his athleticism transfers to the movements of those positions.
Originally posted by xcfan:
i don't know where he'll end up.
physically, he's a big, linear sprinter.
we're going to find that he has mediocre lateral movement and mediocre ankle flexion. with his height and joint stiffness, he's going to have a hard time holding leverage in the trenches. he should do fine in a wide, rush lane. he should also get some reps at TE and OT, just to see if his athleticism transfers to the movements of those positions.

How do you measure ankle flexion? Is it anterior-posterior flexion or side to side lateral ankle flexion? What's "good" ankle flexion in degrees? Just curious

Don't they have stretches for that? Like kneeling into a fetal position with toes pointing out behind you so ankle is fully extended. That's a good one. That's hard. That's a sweat producer believe it or not. Just fully extending the ankle after exertion.

Don't forget how young he is. He can be trained. Get him into a yoga class with a trained PT 90 minutes /day 6 days / week. Lead with the body and the CNS will follow.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
How do you measure ankle flexion? Is it anterior-posterior flexion or side to side lateral ankle flexion? What's "good" ankle flexion in degrees? Just curious

Don't they have stretches for that? Like kneeling into a fetal position with toes pointing out behind you so ankle is fully extended. That's a good one. That's hard. That's a sweat producer believe it or not. Just fully extending the ankle after exertion.

Don't forget how young he is. He can be trained. Get him into a yoga class with a trained PT 90 minutes /day 6 days / week. Lead with the body and the CNS will follow.
there's not a lot you can do to alter the range of motion of large joints. serious stretching will help with muscle flexibility, but it's not going to transform a joint's internal ligaments and give you a whole new joint.
an elite player with great joint flexion is jj watt. he was born that way.
okoye is not that guy. when you watch him move and run, you see stiffness like you'd see in an offensive guard. that's his liability. on the other hand, his straight-line explosiveness and quickness is elite for his size. it'll be interesting to see how he pans out.
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Originally posted by xcfan:
i don't know where he'll end up.
physically, he's a big, linear sprinter.
we're going to find that he has mediocre lateral movement and mediocre ankle flexion. with his height and joint stiffness, he's going to have a hard time holding leverage in the trenches. he should do fine in a wide, rush lane. he should also get some reps at TE and OT, just to see if his athleticism transfers to the movements of those positions.
not to be a hater but i think he will end up in the unemployment line after the teams first cut
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Originally posted by cciowa:
not to be a hater but i think he will end up in the unemployment line after the teams first cut

that could very well be.
he's going to get beat up like never before. we'll see how he responds to that.
the fact that he will have to be thinking so much while he's practicing is really going to hurt him.
then, again, he may have one or two move that simply blow the coaches away and seal a spot for him.
Originally posted by xcfan:
there's not a lot you can do to alter the range of motion of large joints. serious stretching will help with muscle flexibility, but it's not going to transform a joint's internal ligaments and give you a whole new joint.
an elite player with great joint flexion is jj watt. he was born that way.
okoye is not that guy. when you watch him move and run, you see stiffness like you'd see in an offensive guard. that's his liability. on the other hand, his straight-line explosiveness and quickness is elite for his size. it'll be interesting to see how he pans out.
You critique is ever move, how did you observe his movement at the OTA's? Are you a professional coach? If not you sound foolish! Just saying.....
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by xcfan:

The big white is biiger than Okyoe. We should get him too.

nah he's got man boobs