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Lawrence Okoye Thread of Epic Awesomeness

  • LVJay
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Originally posted by AmpLee:
This is exactly it. If he has that nasty demeanor, he will succeed. It's as simple as that. That being said, tons of big dudes are softies in the nasty department so it's not a given.

"softies" eh, hmmmm... is it illegal to take Viagra right before game time
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ether , that's a good point, but I guess the answer is this guy is so athletic he probably could play anywhere. CB would be interesting, but way too much technique learned over yrs for that. I thot , oh boy, another Bill Walsh olympic sprinter WR project. Not so. Okoye can and I bet will start somewhere on the lines, DL, maybe OL, and he would be hell on wheels with football in his hands....say from the five yd line? I cannot believe an athlete can be so nimble, quick, fast strong, smart....as Okoye, and not become a starter somewhere on this team. After Coach Walsh's fiasco, i never thot it was worth the effort. Okoye changed my mind on that. The guy is a natural, and probably could play TE, LB, OL, DE...and carry the ball a few times in close. I am not exaggerating. Watch this guy. Amazing, just amazing.

We know he's an athletic freak. We don't know though how he will be as a football player once all the pads go on and you have to start hitting people Who knows if he's ready for the physicality of the sport. He is huge and incredibly strong, but that doesn't mean that he's physical. Will his strength go to waste because of terrible technique and terrible leverage? These are the things that Tomsula has to coach him up on and I hope that he gets. If he can play physical and knows how to use his strength and learns the appropriate leverage and technique then there is no reason he can't succeed. However, there is a chance the guy just doesn't have what it takes to be a football player.

A similar situation can be seen with Brock Lesnar. He is another athletic freak who has excelled in nearly everything he's done (WWE and UFC). He was another guy who was nearly 300 pounds, ran a 4.7, and was incredibly strong. He never really panned out in the NFL for one reason or another, whether it was lack of experience or he just simply wasn't a football player.

Now I'm hoping Tomsula can channel all of these freak attributes that Okoye possess into something special, but it's probably best we don't get our hopes up!

For the realists in here, we care much less about his freakish physical ability than we do about some other very important things. The things that truly excite many of us are his drive, determination, and intellectual superiority compared to the vast majority of the NFL. This guy has an Oxford scholarship in his name and was an incredibly successful Olympian despite having far less time to train than the other athletes. If his smarts and insatiable fervor to be great can catapult Okoye into where his ceiling currently sits (which is massive), there's GREAT reason to be ECSTATIC.

Now, this remains to be seen, but when you look at this guy's track record, he's given us nothing but reason to believe he CAN do it. His past provides the evidence that would make you believe he can develop the knowledge, skills, and abilities to use his superior God-given physical nature to be a successful NFL pro.

Now do we have a crystal ball and know for sure? No way. Heck no. But we can make an educated hypothesis, and based on solid logical reasoning, we can hope for the best.

His freakish physical ability is what is so intriguing about him though. There are many guys just as determined and many guys who are intelligent. The thing is when you combine that determination and intelligence with that incredible athleticism then you can possibly develop something special. Imagine if Randy Moss had Jerry Rice's determination.

The thing that makes this a huge project is that Okoye has 0 football experience. He has the drive, ability to learn things fast, and the freakish ability. It's going to come down to whether or not he can learn and perform the technique and handle the grueling physicality of the NFL.
[ Edited by pwillis52beasty on May 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM ]
I hated the tire jump in high school. Finally got it down 4 yrs later. But Okoye has not had experience with that particular exercise, and my guess is he just picked it up and bingo, learned it, to what looked like perfection. I've never seen any NFL player in camps do that particular exercise that well, especially that fast, that agile, that perfectly. Man would I like to see what they start Okoye on next. He's got an exercise I learned to do poorly and slowly down after one try. That says he learns and learns quick. I just don't see the 9ers keeping the guy off the field. He's quick, agile, fast , huge, strong...and obviously very smart. His coordination is well, impressive. I couldn't understand this pick on draft day. Now i think the guys in the F.O. found a diamond...a huge fricking diamond...in the rough.
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Wow, just watching his camp highlight, dude has a looooooong way to go. He is not violent with his hands at all. His rear was higher than his upper back on the slamming the pads on the ground lateral drill. He stepped on nearly every pad when doing high knees.

Dude has a long way to go.
Originally posted by LVJay:
That's great... I like mutants, especially X-Men. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are alright, too. From my observations, "mutants" develop faster than humans/normal humans.

I kinda thought he was a mutant, as well, but I didn't really want to say anything just yet. I'm glad you mentioned it, however. That's awesome, I'm not alone... still, is it just a notion or is it factual/is he indeed a "mutant" ??

I believe it to be true, but I don't think anyone will believe it and go public with it. I think the coaches will keep this under the cuff (TOP SECRET). Now, if that's the case, it's no wonder they snagged him... the FO must have been tipped off (after the draft) and knew they were getting over on the rest of the league. It's no wonder Tomsula is giving him all the attention, knowing that mutants develop faster than humans.

I wonder if he has any supernatural traits/gifts/powers... I wonder what his mutant age is, 3 yrs old, 10 or 15 yrs old

What will become of this Man-Child "Mutant" ????????

Anyone know if mutants are covered by the new CBA?
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
He isn't just some 6'6 300lb guy. The guy is an Olympian. He became an Olympian in an event he only practiced for 2 years. Before that, he had never thrown a discuss before. So no, I don't know what you mean.


I would argue that it takes less skill to learn to throw a discuss, than it does to learn to play D-line. You're only doing one single repetitive motion throwing a discuss. On the D-line, you have a hundred different athletic movements to master to avoid being put on your 300lb ass.

I heard warren sapp say he only had two moves his entire Career. His best move and another Incase they stopped his first
You think keap will get him all tatted up
Originally posted by Joecool:
Wow, just watching his camp highlight, dude has a looooooong way to go. He is not violent with his hands at all. His rear was higher than his upper back on the slamming the pads on the ground lateral drill. He stepped on nearly every pad when doing high knees.

Dude has a long way to go.

Yeah it looked like he was playing pat a cake with the pads.

I want to see dude trying to kill people with those big ass clubs of his.
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Wow, just watching his camp highlight, dude has a looooooong way to go. He is not violent with his hands at all. His rear was higher than his upper back on the slamming the pads on the ground lateral drill. He stepped on nearly every pad when doing high knees.

Dude has a long way to go.

Yeah it looked like he was playing pat a cake with the pads.

I want to see dude trying to kill people with those big ass clubs of his.

Webzone's gonna crash if this guy doesn't see any action this year.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper:
My prediction...

2 Years practice squad
2 years back up
1 year situation playing time
Next year full time starter

Much later....

Voted into the HOF

Not just the 49ers, but the NFL retires his number like the NHL did Gretzky.

OK, maybe I got carried away, but I bet you at a minimum he sees playing time at some point.

He did defer his acceptance into Oxford Law. I think if it takes too long to catch on, he'll move on.
I just hope that Okoye doesn't take too much of Tomsula's time, a lot of work needs to get done on this newly revamped DL.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by 5280High:
The real question is how will he hold up to the mental aspect of trench warfare? Chop blocks, tackle traps, and crack backs aren't all that fun if you dont have that nasty all out mentality. D-line is mostly about muscle memory and leverage at its core, doesnt take a genius to read run or pass... but it does take a little bit of crazy to play in the trenches.

This is exactly it. If he has that nasty demeanor, he will succeed. It's as simple as that. That being said, tons of big dudes are softies in the nasty department so it's not a given.

If he hadn't also played rugby I might see this as a concern, but typically speaking, those dudes aren't softies.
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Originally posted by CO9er4life:
You think keap will get him all tatted up

There is no keap on the 49ers.
[ Edited by buck on May 15, 2013 at 12:52 PM ]
It seems like the Niners Brass wants him on this team somehow, some way. The discus skills may be able to translate into a really strong/fast spin move (a la Dwight Freeney in his prime). Now, there's a lot of work to do, but it seems like there's just too much raw ability for him not to make the 53.

My concern is his hands don't seem to be violent (from the few clips I've seen). But, there's only so much he can improve each day. Obviously, he's got a LONG way to go, but it's exciting to think what he could potentially be, if he pans out.

Now, some have thought about him at OT or FB. I see FB making a lot of sense from the rugby background, but OT requires a lot of technique and time to develop. But at 6'6" 305 lbs, he's just too perfect to be a 3-4 penetrating DE.



But, he should be on 53. I don't want to see another team develop him.