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POLL: Grade The 49ers' 2013 Draft

POLL: Grade The 49ers' 2013 Draft

Originally posted by British9er:
I agree totally with the premise that the FO believes it has the NT in the 3-4 this season already on the roster in Williams and Dorsey. A thought that has occurred to me (albeit one that it perhaps biased) is that the FO have realised that last year Soap's play fell off a lot and even despite this the opposition chose not to run against the 49ers that much. The Defence spent most of the season in the nickel and therefore there were many games when Soap wouldn't get on the field that much at all.

Therefore perhaps the 49ers are happy to 'give a little' at NT and load up abit more with pass rushers - Tank, Leomnier and Dial (untapped rush potential according to Fangio) and add in Reid and Asmoguha to the secondary. I think our dline wore down during the season as a result of playing so much in the nickel. If teams decided to try and run more on the 49ers defence would it be such a crime? Personally I'm delighted when teams hand the ball off and try and run into that line.

My other linked thought is that the 2013 49ers offence should score more pts per game than the 2012 version. Kaep is a more dynamic QB than Alex Smith and with him under centre in 2013 having prepared all off-season to be the starter I expect the 49ers to score mroe pts and to score more quickly. The other offensive players will also have had a full off-season to practice the offence we will run under Kaep. I can therefore forsee that opponents will be playing catch-up more often and may abandon the run earlier in games to throw more to stay in the game. When this happens how often would a "heifer" get onto the field to play NT??

I think that the FO is quite happy with what its got already and is willing to go with a more athletic DL/NT rather than a one dimensional "heifer"


Hey, that's a pretty good argument. It made me look again at my initital reaction and try to understand it better.

First, getting "better" up front is totally, DEFCON4 critical. Do we agree there? I think the D production in the last 8 weeks dropped dramatically due to lack of presence up front. Not just with regards to pass rush production but impact tackles as well. You know, smashmouth hits. Why? Everyone was gimpy, not just the Smiths. And, we rely on front 7 domination to support our coverage d.

Prior to the draft, the lineup we have on hand that will go into 2013 is in worse shape than they were going into 2012. JSMith, coming off major surgery/rehab. ASmith, coming off major surgery/rehab. McDonald a year older. Dorsey, history of injuries light on NT experience. Reliable backup RJF gone.

So I am thinking that all these guys will need to be spelled much more than 2012. Why not plan that the SMiths will need to play 65-80 percent of snaps? Dorsey, McDonald will only make 60% of snaps? say 700 - 850 total snaps, not 1100. SOmething like that.

I like the observation that we won't really be running an NT that much anyway, because our opponents will be much more in passing mode for 2013 due to our offensive ability.

But I think that even though there will be more situational sub of the NT than last year, the most important thing to avoid is total ineffectiveness at any DLine position due to the general beat down effect. Doesn't matter if Dorsey/Williams get in that state week 8, 10, 14, whatever. Same with the Smiths. The best antidote to that is fresh meat and we need to find the best quality we can in the draft. For every spot that we play up front.

So I thought that we would really try to maximize the quality of those individuals-- draft real three down candidates, plus add some real competition/size to the Dorsey/Williams equation.

I also get that maybe, we just didn't feel that there were any real candidates there in round 2/3, so we went with other positions where there was a better quality yield.

Maybe. I just think that 2 rookies adding up to say 600 - 700 snaps on any of the three positions up front would make a real difference to our dinged guys.

Plus let me turn around the we're-in-the-lead argument. Isn't that the time to give Justin a break for one or two series? When we are up 3 scores late in second quarter? Maybe we can put in someone for a series and maintain. That might just keep JS/AS playing 95% into February.

I am pretty happy with Reid. Carradine might help out. Other guys can work out too. We'll see.
I only said B because I want to see Tank's knee fully healthy. If everyone returns to form in this draft then hell yes it's an A, A- but for now I gave it a B.
Originally posted by KegBert:
To me many of these draft picks seem to be at that perfect intersection of need and BPA. We have filled all of our major needs this year and did it with some quality players.The Lattimore pick is the cherry on top of the sundae for me. Only time will tell but at first homer blush, this looks like a solid A-.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Solid B+. Much will depend on how guys end up fitting into their roles, and if Lattimore comes back healthy etc.. Overall very happy with this draft.


Originally posted by SofaKing:
If this isn't an A draft, I don't know what is.

-Filled all of our needs with talented, productive players with plenty of upside.
-Got great value. Each pick made sense.
-Traded up and down to get the guys we wanted.
-Acquired additional picks for 2014

Great job by the front office.


Originally posted by BayArea:
... being the Super Bowl runner ups we had a pretty sweet draft. Considering our GM made the board look like his b***h and got who he wanted.

I graded the draft an A-
Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:
Originally posted by KegBert:
To me many of these draft picks seem to be at that perfect intersection of need and BPA. We have filled all of our major needs this year and did it with some quality players.The Lattimore pick is the cherry on top of the sundae for me. Only time will tell but at first homer blush, this looks like a solid A-.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Solid B+. Much will depend on how guys end up fitting into their roles, and if Lattimore comes back healthy etc.. Overall very happy with this draft.


Originally posted by SofaKing:
If this isn't an A draft, I don't know what is.

-Filled all of our needs with talented, productive players with plenty of upside.
-Got great value. Each pick made sense.
-Traded up and down to get the guys we wanted.
-Acquired additional picks for 2014

Great job by the front office.


Originally posted by BayArea:
... being the Super Bowl runner ups we had a pretty sweet draft. Considering our GM made the board look like his b***h and got who he wanted.

I graded the draft an A-

A for me! Great draft filled needs and depth. I'm excited for the season to to start!
Seems like folks are forgetting about Boldin & McCoy in this analysis as well. We got Boldin in exchange for a 6th Round pick, and McCoy by sliding down a few spots from the late 5th to early 6th, + a 7th Rounder.

-Anquan Boldin
-Eric Reid
-Tank Carradine
-Marcus Lattimore
-Quinton Patton
-Vance McDonald
-Colt McCoy
-Corey Lemonier
-2014 3rd Rounder
-Quinton Dial
-Nick Moody
-Marcus Cooper
-BJ Daniels
-Carter Bykowski

That's our actual yield from the 2013 Draft.
Originally posted by socalfan21:
I only said B because I want to see Tank's knee fully healthy. If everyone returns to form in this draft then hell yes it's an A, A- but for now I gave it a B.


I gave it a B+ for the same reasons listed above, along with the unknown return of Lattimore. If Tank and Lattimore do return to form this draft is an easy A. I think Lemonier could be the X Factor. His game film looks like a mirror image of Aldon (tall, lanky but also bull rush powerful), and we could have an Aldon like pass rusher coming from both sides. Lots of funny word play on the horizon from the 9er beat writers ... Lemon squeeze, life gives you lemons make menonade, etc. I also like the McDonald draft. If he can just prove that he can catch the ball consistantly I see Gronkowski potential. A defensive mismatch of epic proportions.
I had a few players I really wanted to see on the Niners and we got all of them, so I consider this an A draft easily. Great job Trent.
A great job 9ers !
Originally posted by SofaKing:
If this isn't an A draft, I don't know what is.

-Filled all of our needs with talented, productive players with plenty of upside.
-Got great value. Each pick made sense.
-Traded up and down to get the guys we wanted.
-Acquired additional picks for 2014


Great job by the front office.

Agree above - working from position #31 - but with a lot of picks, I think they landed a group of talent that makes sense. Was a little bummed we didn't add a plugger NT with a late rounder (which is where the value is for a 33% of downs or less player). But otherwise great.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22153086/2013-nfl-draft-winners-and-losers-rookie-gms-do-well

Hate Prisco, He seems to always be a Niner hater but he actually had to choke down and say we had a good draft.
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
I gave it a B+ for the same reasons listed above, along with the unknown return of Lattimore. If Tank and Lattimore do return to form this draft is an easy A. I think Lemonier could be the X Factor. His game film looks like a mirror image of Aldon (tall, lanky but also bull rush powerful), and we could have an Aldon like pass rusher coming from both sides. Lots of funny word play on the horizon from the 9er beat writers ... Lemon squeeze, life gives you lemons make menonade, etc. I also like the McDonald draft. If he can just prove that he can catch the ball consistantly I see Gronkowski potential. A defensive mismatch of epic proportions.

Hard to compare anyone to Gronk - 6'7" - soft hands - smooth speed for a guy that huge. Would love to find one!
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Seems like folks are forgetting about Boldin & McCoy in this analysis as well. We got Boldin in exchange for a 6th Round pick, and McCoy by sliding down a few spots from the late 5th to early 6th, + a 7th Rounder.

-Anquan Boldin
-Eric Reid
-Tank Carradine
-Marcus Lattimore
-Quinton Patton
-Vance McDonald
-Colt McCoy
-Corey Lemonier
-2014 3rd Rounder
-Quinton Dial
-Nick Moody
-Marcus Cooper
-BJ Daniels
-Carter Bykowski

That's our actual yield from the 2013 Draft.

Ridiculous. Not too mention a UDFA like Okoye.
One thing that I love about our team is how we put a premium on drafting intelligent, positive-minded leaders. Sure we may take a chance on a guy with a minor character flaw, but we aren't drafting some of these knuckleheads that Seattle, AZ, and STL are.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
One thing that I love about our team is how we put a premium on drafting intelligent, positive-minded leaders. Sure we may take a chance on a guy with a minor character flaw, but we aren't drafting some of these knuckleheads that Seattle, AZ, and STL are.

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My grade is a B+. I would've liked to see them trade more picks back to 2014, or bundle them up for fewer, higher picks in the first 3 rounds. Maybe they couldn't find trading partners; maybe this is exactly what they wanted.

I really like Reid and Patton. Give those two picks an "A." McDonald and Lemonier look like solid additions. Carradine is an "incomplete" to me. We'll see how he pans out over the next couple years, but the potential is sky-high. I do like the fact that the 49ers leveraged their position as a deep and talented team to take a guy that others avoided. They can afford to bring him along slowly.

I also like what they're doing with Lattimore. They'll stash him on the NFI list so he doesn't count against the 53 and he's not exposed to other teams on the waiver wire/practice squad. Clever way of stockpiling players for the future. (Exactly what they did with Jewel Hampton.)

Overall, I like the investment in the front 7. I like the commitment to creating competition. But I wish they'd made fewer than 11 picks and feel that some of these guys will end up on other teams. Combined with FA, they've patched the holes, increased depth and competition, and brought in young blood for the future.