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The Quinton Patton Tank of Truth

As far as Lockette, he's a physical specimen, but I'm not buying the hype at this point. He hasn't put it all together and frankly I think he will not be this breakout player like some expect. I think he may make some plays here and there, but I'm not expecting anything more than "modest" totals at best.

The only thing Crabtree wasn't considered was "Fastest receiver on the team." Everything else -- hands, strength (Boldin of course would contest that now), route-running, open-field moves and breaking tackles, he all was the top guy for those.

It'll be very interesting, but I hope Patton and Jenkins can contribute in amazing ways until Crabtree returns.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/43315/321/third-day-gems-wr-patton

"Like other third day gems, I was and continue to be a huge fan of Patton's, listing him at No. 30 in my top 151 pre-draft rankings. After one day of rookie camp, 49ers beat writer Matt Maiocco wrote "I can tell you that Quinton Patton is nowhere close to being ready. (But that can be said for all of the rookies.)" I did not attend this practice, but based on Patton's collegiate tape I disagree."

I trust Maiocco.

Adjusting to the pro game can take time, though I know the Zone really wants to crown Patton & Lockette ASAP.

Maiocco was wrong about Kap, he's been wrong about plenty. I'll take his analysis noting that Patton has much to work on.


This^^

Maiocco is worse than vanilla, when it comes to player evaluation. One pretty much has to scrap anything he says. That fans will "attend" his chats an ask questions as if he's some kind of authority on players is amusing.

I do agree with Pheonix on Lockette. He is fast approaching his "use by" date. It's difficult to imagine that he'll break out as a #1 or #2 given his history and especially his age. Can anyone recall a player who has been a revelation under similar circumstances? Best one can expect is that he'll be a servicable #4.

Patton's book, on the other hand,has yet to be written. He seems to have it all, minus elite speed.

I rate Jenkins and Patton as front runners to take over as starter. Jenkins slightly ahead. Both ahead of Manningham. That's what I hope plays out.
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
This^^

Maiocco is worse than vanilla, when it comes to player evaluation. One pretty much has to scrap anything he says. That fans will "attend" his chats an ask questions as if he's some kind of authority on players is amusing.

I do agree with Pheonix on Lockette. He is fast approaching his "use by" date. It's difficult to imagine that he'll break out as a #1 or #2 given his history and especially his age. Can anyone recall a player who has been a revelation under similar circumstances? Best one can expect is that he'll be a servicable #4.

Patton's book, on the other hand,has yet to be written. He seems to have it all, minus elite speed.

I rate Jenkins and Patton as front runners to take over as starter. Jenkins slightly ahead. Both ahead of Manningham. That's what I hope plays out.

I may catch flack for saying this.....but from where I'm standing and looking...........I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see Chad Hall make the roster over Lockette.


Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I may catch flack for saying this.....but from where I'm standing and looking...........I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see Chad Hall make the roster over Lockette.



I got your back ;-), it takes a special type of player to be considered a Heisman candidate playing for the Air Force Academy. With our horrible WR injury luck these past two years, we may even carry up to 7 receivers if MM doesnt start out on the PUP list. Obviously for that to happen Hall or Lockette need to also become special team studs.
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I may catch flack for saying this.....but from where I'm standing and looking...........I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see Chad Hall make the roster over Lockette.



I got your back ;-), it takes a special type of player to be considered a Heisman candidate playing for the Air Force Academy. With our horrible WR injury luck these past two years, we may even carry up to 7 receivers if MM doesnt start out on the PUP list. Obviously for that to happen Hall or Lockette need to also become special team studs.

I will concur as well! Everyone falls in love with the speedy unknown but the guys who have been in camp a few times often have the edge. Also has experience at multiple positions--including returns.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on May 27, 2013 at 6:02 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I may catch flack for saying this.....but from where I'm standing and looking...........I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see Chad Hall make the roster over Lockette.



That would not be a shock to anyone lol
With all the work they're getting from coaches and from Kaepernick himself and considering the fact that the Niners used a first and a fourth rounder, I'll be surprised if Jenkins and Patton don't make the squad. The wildcard is Lockette and he's the one who has been working the closest with Kaepernick learning the playbook and how to catch those fastballs. It's easy to predict failure, but how often have you seen a situation where the QB is working so closely with receivers on routes and reads? I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't know about Chad Hall, but I'll be surprised if at least one of the three younger guys doesn't step up and be a major receiving threat this year.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I may catch flack for saying this.....but from where I'm standing and looking...........I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see Chad Hall make the roster over Lockette.



I got your back ;-), it takes a special type of player to be considered a Heisman candidate playing for the Air Force Academy. With our horrible WR injury luck these past two years, we may even carry up to 7 receivers if MM doesnt start out on the PUP list. Obviously for that to happen Hall or Lockette need to also become special team studs.

I will concur as well! Everyone falls in love with the speedy unknown but the guys who have been in camp a few times often have the edge. Also has experience at multiple positions--including returns.

Chad Hall was added late to the Heisman race in 2007. He may have been the AFA Falcons' best player, but played on a service academy that went 9-3 against mediocre competition so that is hardly anything special. Especially in an AFA offense that ran the triple option.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Chad Hall was added late to the Heisman race in 2007. He may have been the AFA Falcons' best player, but played on a service academy that went 9-3 against mediocre competition so that is hardly anything special. Especially in an AFA offense that ran the triple option.

True, but he has more versatility than the other guys and may even win a spot as a return specialist...the 9ers like versatility! And he will likely play STs with vigor...unlike some high round choices.
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/43315/321/third-day-gems-wr-patton

"Like other third day gems, I was and continue to be a huge fan of Patton's, listing him at No. 30 in my top 151 pre-draft rankings. After one day of rookie camp, 49ers beat writer Matt Maiocco wrote "I can tell you that Quinton Patton is nowhere close to being ready. (But that can be said for all of the rookies.)" I did not attend this practice, but based on Patton's collegiate tape I disagree."

I trust Maiocco.

Adjusting to the pro game can take time, though I know the Zone really wants to crown Patton & Lockette ASAP.

Maiocco was wrong about Kap, he's been wrong about plenty. I'll take his analysis noting that Patton has much to work on.


This^^

Maiocco is worse than vanilla, when it comes to player evaluation. One pretty much has to scrap anything he says. That fans will "attend" his chats an ask questions as if he's some kind of authority on players is amusing.

I do agree with Pheonix on Lockette. He is fast approaching his "use by" date. It's difficult to imagine that he'll break out as a #1 or #2 given his history and especially his age. Can anyone recall a player who has been a revelation under similar circumstances? Best one can expect is that he'll be a servicable #4.

Patton's book, on the other hand,has yet to be written. He seems to have it all, minus elite speed.

I rate Jenkins and Patton as front runners to take over as starter. Jenkins slightly ahead. Both ahead of Manningham. That's what I hope plays out.

Because Manningham's is coming back from an injury or base on skills alone?
I don't get all this hype he was a 4th round pick. He's going to be good because Harbaugh likes him? Harbaugh also like Josh Morgan. I'm rooting for the kid I hope he becomes good but it's up to him
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Chad Hall was added late to the Heisman race in 2007. He may have been the AFA Falcons' best player, but played on a service academy that went 9-3 against mediocre competition so that is hardly anything special. Especially in an AFA offense that ran the triple option.

True, but he has more versatility than the other guys and may even win a spot as a return specialist...the 9ers like versatility! And he will likely play STs with vigor...unlike some high round choices.

It was still in the Mountain West Conference, is it a BCS conference no... but its not like he was facing Ivy league teams or Division 2 teams. Up until all these years of conference realignments, the MWC was kind of the 'best of the rest' (non BCS schools.)

Anyways, the one reason I would give Hall a chance was that he showed the coaches enough last year to have his own play designed for him, but who knows... that might have been cause KW was injured and they are similar style players.
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Originally posted by BMoore56:
I don't get all this hype he was a 4th round pick. He's going to be good because Harbaugh likes him? Harbaugh also like Josh Morgan. I'm rooting for the kid I hope he becomes good but it's up to him

Because he had a great college career, and is supposedly a very good blocker and route runner.

As far as Lockette, I don't have much hope for him either. He could prove me wrong, but everything that I've read about him just screams "Ted Ginn Jr." to me. Just about as physically talented and fast as any receiver in the league, but just can't put it together to be a good gameday player due to hands or poor route running. Hoping the offseason stuff with Kaep pays off though.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
This^^

Maiocco is worse than vanilla, when it comes to player evaluation. One pretty much has to scrap anything he says. That fans will "attend" his chats an ask questions as if he's some kind of authority on players is amusing.

I do agree with Pheonix on Lockette. He is fast approaching his "use by" date. It's difficult to imagine that he'll break out as a #1 or #2 given his history and especially his age. Can anyone recall a player who has been a revelation under similar circumstances? Best one can expect is that he'll be a servicable #4.

Patton's book, on the other hand,has yet to be written. He seems to have it all, minus elite speed.

I rate Jenkins and Patton as front runners to take over as starter. Jenkins slightly ahead. Both ahead of Manningham. That's what I hope plays out.

I may catch flack for saying this.....but from where I'm standing and looking...........I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to see Chad Hall make the roster over Lockette.



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