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New 49er Corey Lemonier

Originally posted by Scoots:
Bowman didn't show much until the end of his rookie year ... I think he meant a 3rd round pick before the season starts.

So many people were "meh" about Lemonier and I had to keep saying it was a great pick. He got a lot of pressures even though he didn't get great sack numbers. He reminded me of Charles Haley in that Haley would get the QB to move and someone else got the sack a lot of the time. Lemonier is so quick around the edge that he's going to drive the QB toward his teammates. If only we had another player who was a pass rush threat to get the sack!

Originally posted by eonblue:
Yea Lemonier played the exact same talent as Mingo. Mingo had a much better line to work with. Sam Montogomery and Anthony Johnson(hes going to be a first round pick). I watched the Texas AM game and Lemonier didn't do bad in fact he was able to generate pressure but if the rest of the team isn't collapsing the pocket it just doesn't work right. Auburn was a train wreck too. Nothing on that team worked right. I think Auburns seasons was a debacle so probably illogically I give Lemonier a pass on his lack of stats. The tools are there. He can produce because his 2011 was great.

He was asked to play a DE at Auburn every snap. He has the strength to do it but he has problems holding the gaps when he rushes. He's not meant to be playing with his hand in the dirt every down. Auburn put him in a position to fail. Watch the AM game. Hes essentially isolated on Joeckel. Hes the only one generating pressure but this played into Joke and they started to run at him because they knew he could mantain both gaps. They can't expect him to generate pressure and cover both of his gaps. It was just to much to ask against an elite tackle and he lost confidence. I think were going to see him jamming TEs, covering TE, playing underneath zone, dragging coverage, and rushing. Hes good at everything but not great at anything which I think will make him a perfect fit for Ahmads side. I feel best about him out of all our picks. I think we got a strait steal in the Bowman mold.

This was from a thread in the draft forum. Im not bragging but Im glad people are catching on. His measurables, leg strength, and stability are a rare combination. I knew he just needed good position coaches and a mentor. An interesting thing I noticed. From game one to game two Lemoniers assignments greatly expanded. In game one he was holding the edge, rushing the edge, and dropping back covering the zone about 5-7 yards back from his gap. In game two he started rushing inside of his block. He created a couple of pressures. He started playing 3-4 yards off the TE in man cover. This type of coverage I have never seen Brooks do. He will drop back but Ive never seen him cover like CB does. Lemonier covers stride for stride. Lastly he's rushing the edge gap and after pulling his man out he's pushing back inside which as I understand it is a way of rushing while also covering the B and C gaps.

Idk Im gonna spare you guya my homerism but Im excited to say the least.
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by VPofCarnage:
Yeah, Quanterus was a good pick too IMO. Great value. But I've never been as excited about a 3rd-round rookie as I am about Lemonier. I think the rest of the NFL completely blew it (twice) passing on this guy. I think he'll be better than Barkevious Mingo. And that's not homer talk; I was saying that all offseason.

Not Gore?

BOWMAN?


I think he means, "A rookie coming into his first season." In other words, "I have never been so excited about a third round draft pick just before their rookie season is about to begin."
Originally posted by Scoots:
Bowman didn't show much until the end of his rookie year ... I think he meant a 3rd round pick before the season starts.

So many people were "meh" about Lemonier and I had to keep saying it was a great pick. He got a lot of pressures even though he didn't get great sack numbers. He reminded me of Charles Haley in that Haley would get the QB to move and someone else got the sack a lot of the time. Lemonier is so quick around the edge that he's going to drive the QB toward his teammates. If only we had another player who was a pass rush threat to get the sack!


Funny you say that, because if you think about it, what if a pass rusher came unblocked every play? People would immediately move away from his side when the ball is snapped, and then get tackled by another player.
In other words, it's all about PRESSURE. Sacks come and go based on many variables.
96 is my boy right now...I'm expecting big things for this dude. He has a different look to him when he plays...a bit faster, a bit stronger, a bit more fierce. He plays with that "mojo" or "it" factor everyone seems to look for.
Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
96 is my boy right now...I'm expecting big things for this dude. He has a different look to him when he plays...a bit faster, a bit stronger, a bit more fierce. He plays with that "mojo" or "it" factor everyone seems to look for.


And he's nearly as dominant as Aldon Smith was during his rookie preseason.
who is better Lemon or Dion Jordan? Never trade up for an injured player.
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
who is better Lemon or Dion Jordan? Never trade up for an injured player.

I think Lemonier will be better in the long term. The first thing I noticed about him is his obscenely fast first step; but I think he showed against the Chiefs that he has the core strength to go along with that quickness. He has long arms, and he has room to get even stronger (he's still one of the youngest players in the league).

I always thought Jordan and Mingo were a little lanky (like Manny Lawson).
[ Edited by VPofCarnage on Aug 22, 2013 at 5:18 PM ]
Originally posted by VPofCarnage:
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
who is better Lemon or Dion Jordan? Never trade up for an injured player.

I think Lemonier will be better in the long term. The first thing I noticed about him is his obscenely fast first step; but I think he showed against the Chiefs that he has the core strength to go along with that quickness. He has long arms, and he has room to get even stronger (he's still one of the youngest players in the league).

I always thought Jordan and Mingo were a little lanky (like Manny Lawson).


Totally agree Lawson is a great comparison.
Originally posted by VPofCarnage:
I think Lemonier will be better in the long term. The first thing I noticed about him is his obscenely fast first step; but I think he showed against the Chiefs that he has the core strength to go along with that quickness. He has long arms, and he has room to get even stronger (he's still one of the youngest players in the league).

I always thought Jordan and Mingo were a little lanky (like Manny Lawson).

Mingo ans Jordan have greater quick twitch coordination than Lemonier. Jordans agility with his size are going to put him in a class above Lemonier. I actually Jordan will suffer his first couple of years. He needs to go through a couple of bulks.
Jordan is more similar to Jason Taylor then Manny Lawson IMO. But we will see.
Originally posted by natrone06:
Jordan is more similar to Jason Taylor then Manny Lawson IMO. But we will see.

You're right about that. I do like Jordan better than Mingo, but I think both of 'em are a little lanky & I'd take Lemonier over both of 'em.
[ Edited by VPofCarnage on Aug 22, 2013 at 6:31 PM ]
Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
96 is my boy right now...I'm expecting big things for this dude. He has a different look to him when he plays...a bit faster, a bit stronger, a bit more fierce. He plays with that "mojo" or "it" factor everyone seems to look for.

Can't wait to see more of this kid this week. I think he will get playing time during the season for sure.
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Originally posted by natrone06:
Jordan is more similar to Jason Taylor then Manny Lawson IMO. But we will see.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
we desperately need ILB depth

why do you think we signed holland over takeo spikes?
I love lemons
Originally posted by xcfan:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Jordan is more similar to Jason Taylor then Manny Lawson IMO. But we will see.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
we desperately need ILB depth

why do you think we signed holland over takeo spikes?

Spikes wouldn't pass the new HGH testing.