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Niners select Tank Carradine

I think he takes over Ray Mac this season but there will be a continuous rotation so ray Mac will still be vital for us. Damn we have 5 and possibly 6 great starters to rotate on 3 positions. They will be super fresh when it comes to the post season
Tank is the player I am most excited about this year. It is almost like we got two first round draft picks this year (Tank and Jimmy Ward)! Our pass rush is going to be the best in the league once Aldon is clicking at full speed.
Originally posted by DeUh:
At 295 he looks freakish. For comparison look for number 91 on the right side. That is Ray McDonald.

If his speed, quickness and explosiveness is anything near what it was before ....BOOM.



OMG! He put on weight EASY.

If he retained anywhere close to his athletic ability, he will be unstoppable.
The camera lense fades away in the distance as well so players further away look smaller than what they are. Tank looks good though. He just has to learn the game and a new position
[ Edited by Pillbusta on May 31, 2014 at 9:10 PM ]
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by DeUh:
At 295 he looks freakish. For comparison look for number 91 on the right side. That is Ray McDonald.

If his speed, quickness and explosiveness is anything near what it was before ....BOOM.


He looks huge in that video.

Wow. He dwarfs Ray Mac in that video.

Looks Beastly

Jesus, he and Okoye are enormous! We may finally have a bunch of batted balls this year!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by DeUh:
At 295 he looks freakish. For comparison look for number 91 on the right side. That is Ray McDonald.

If his speed, quickness and explosiveness is anything near what it was before ....BOOM.


He looks huge in that video.

Wow. He dwarfs Ray Mac in that video.

Looks Beastly

Jesus, he and Okoye are enormous! We may finally have a bunch of batted balls this year!

Carradine in my eyes is one of our biggest X factors going into next season. He could take our front seven to the next level. Let's hope that his knee has recovered nicely
Originally posted by goodthings19:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by DeUh:
At 295 he looks freakish. For comparison look for number 91 on the right side. That is Ray McDonald.

If his speed, quickness and explosiveness is anything near what it was before ....BOOM.


He looks huge in that video.

Wow. He dwarfs Ray Mac in that video.

Looks Beastly

Jesus, he and Okoye are enormous! We may finally have a bunch of batted balls this year!

Carradine in my eyes is one of our biggest X factors going into next season. He could take our front seven to the next level. Let's hope that his knee has recovered nicely

If he does I think you will see GM's rethinking their devaluing of injured players during the draft process. I mean really, is one season missed time worth several round drops? I understand with injury=no guarantees, but with the way modern medicine is treating these injuries they are becoming less and less of a risk.
Originally posted by WINiner:
If he does I think you will see GM's rethinking their devaluing of injured players during the draft process. I mean really, is one season missed time worth several round drops? I understand with injury=no guarantees, but with the way modern medicine is treating these injuries they are becoming less and less of a risk.

Carradine was taken in the Top 40 picks, he dropped but let's not pretend he fell into the 3rd or something
Originally posted by WINiner:
If he does I think you will see GM's rethinking their devaluing of injured players during the draft process. I mean really, is one season missed time worth several round drops? I understand with injury=no guarantees, but with the way modern medicine is treating these injuries they are becoming less and less of a risk.

And because if a guy doesn't show up on the active roster, the contract tolls and it essentially adds an extra year to the deal. They get to recover and get treated while becoming familiar with the players, the coaches, the playbook and then you still get a full 4 years of that player on the field after they've recovered. A guy like Lattimore is coming in as a rookie for contractual purposes but far more seasoned than your average rookie, with a better grasp of the system and with a firm understanding of the coaching staff's expectations....etc.

I think last year counted for Carradine because he was active but even with that, if he performs like he is capable of, 49ers got a top of the 1st round guy in the 2nd round.
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by WINiner:
If he does I think you will see GM's rethinking their devaluing of injured players during the draft process. I mean really, is one season missed time worth several round drops? I understand with injury=no guarantees, but with the way modern medicine is treating these injuries they are becoming less and less of a risk.

Carradine was taken in the Top 40 picks, he dropped but let's not pretend he fell into the 3rd or something

Yes but it was the 49ers who took him early. They were mildly criticized for selecting him soo high being injured and all. How many teams have you seen other than the 49ers pick a up player in 1 round or less than that injured player was projected prior to their injury? Most teams let a 1st round talent slide to the 4th or beyond before taking the risk. In consecutive seasons the Niners have selected an injured player in the round after he was originally projected to go. I don't see nay other teams doing so. As I said the rest the league tends to wait a bit longer than the Niners, scared of the risk.

Now I understand our stacked roster allows us to take these risks, but if it keeps panning out for us it's not going to be viewed as such a risk, is my point.
[ Edited by WINiner on Jun 1, 2014 at 9:43 AM ]
Originally posted by WINiner:
Yes but it was the 49ers who took him early. They were mildly criticized for selecting him soo high being injured and all. How many teams have you seen other than the 49ers pick a up player in 1 round or less than that injured player was projected prior to their injury? Most teams let a 1st round talent slide to the 4th or beyond before taking the risk. In consecutive seasons the Niners have selected an injured player in the round after he was originally projected to go. I don't see nay other teams doing so. As I said the rest the league tends to wait a bit longer than the Niners, scared of the risk.

Now I understand our stacked roster allows us to take these risks, but if it keeps panning out for us it's not going to be viewed as such a risk, is my point.



After watching his tape and talking to several different teams, I'll be surprised if Tank Carradine isn't a 1st round pick.

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) April 2, 2013

There was absolutely zero chance of Carradine falling to the 4th round. He was a highly rated prospect that was seen as a late 1st or early 2nd rounder at best. I remember a few of the CBS mock drafts him going as a 1st rounder to Atlanta or New England. Some had him going far earlier than that. He was hardly a reach where the 49ers picked him.

http://www.businessinsider.com/expert-nfl-mock-draft-2013-4#19-new-york-giants-tank-carradine-defensive-tackle-19

"19. New York Giants: Tank Carradine, defensive tackle

Experts: 5 of 13 agree
"







Look how early Easley was picked this year by New England, coming off the same injury as Carradine. Instead of following trends, the 49ers are creating them. If you can get a highly talented, highly promising pass rusher later than his talent and potential suggest, you go out and do it and don't care what others may think. You let the dumb teams worry about immediate gratification and all that jazz.



http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap2000000353475/article/san-francisco-49ers-at-forefront-of-nfl-drafts-redshirting-trend
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jun 1, 2014 at 9:58 AM ]
I would love to see Tank beat Ray-Mac for his spot.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Yes but it was the 49ers who took him early. They were mildly criticized for selecting him soo high being injured and all. How many teams have you seen other than the 49ers pick a up player in 1 round or less than that injured player was projected prior to their injury? Most teams let a 1st round talent slide to the 4th or beyond before taking the risk. In consecutive seasons the Niners have selected an injured player in the round after he was originally projected to go. I don't see nay other teams doing so. As I said the rest the league tends to wait a bit longer than the Niners, scared of the risk.

Now I understand our stacked roster allows us to take these risks, but if it keeps panning out for us it's not going to be viewed as such a risk, is my point.



After watching his tape and talking to several different teams, I'll be surprised if Tank Carradine isn't a 1st round pick.

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) April 2, 2013

There was absolutely zero chance of Carradine falling to the 4th round. He was a highly rated prospect that was seen as a late 1st or early 2nd rounder at best. I remember a few of the CBS mock drafts him going as a 1st rounder to Atlanta or New England. Some had him going far earlier than that. He was hardly a reach where the 49ers picked him.

http://www.businessinsider.com/expert-nfl-mock-draft-2013-4#19-new-york-giants-tank-carradine-defensive-tackle-19

"19. New York Giants: Tank Carradine, defensive tackle

Experts: 5 of 13 agree
"






Look how early Easley was picked this year by New England, coming off the same injury as Carradine. Instead of following trends, the 49ers are creating them. If you can get a highly talented, highly promising pass rusher later than his talent and potential suggest, you go out and do it and don't care what others may think. You let the dumb teams worry about immediate gratification and all that jazz.



http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap2000000353475/article/san-francisco-49ers-at-forefront-of-nfl-drafts-redshirting-trend

Not sure you are understanding my argument.

All I am saying is that the Niners have broken the mold a little on injured players, taking them much earlier than injured players are usually selected traditionally.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Not sure you are understanding my argument.

All I am saying is that the Niners have broken the mold a little on injured players, taking them much earlier than injured players are usually selected traditionally.

He's arguing that Carradine wasn't really taken that much earlier than had he been selected by another team
[ Edited by dhp318 on Jun 1, 2014 at 10:55 AM ]
There hasn't been a precedent of teams taking players in the first two rounds then redshirting them as a staple until what we have seen here with Baalke. If it works other teams will catch on and emulate this