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Niners select Tank Carradine

Reply 509 boy did I start the derailing. I was about to say when I posted it too don't want to get off topic.

I'll get us back on Tank.

Tank is very large. He has very short hair. He likes to smile and play football. He played for the Seminoles but he is not Native American. He is #95. The End.
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
which tells you the pick wasn't Baalke and it was Dingleberry i.e. Singletary.

Baalke was in charge of the draft. Mays was a Baalke pick.

By the way, Mays is still playing for the Bengals. He has played in all eight games and has one start this year.
He has 19 tackles and 3 passes defended.

He let Singletary pick him though. If my manager at work lets me make a decision on something and it turned out I made a mistake is it my fault or his fault?

Even if it was Baalke's pick it's still not as bad as Walsh picking Druckenmiller or what he gave up to get Stokes.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
wasnt he originally predicted to be a high first rounder?
This is a really good writeup on Carradine; the author of this article speaks glowingly of him:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/shutdown-50-cornellius-tank-carradine-florida-state-223659874--nfl.html

His article ends with this line:
NFL Comparison: Aldon Smith, San Francisco 49ers (if healthy).

So we now have two Aldons. Just kidding. But a lot of people were really high on him coming into the draft.

We really have three, if you count the Lemon man. -Our defensive skill players have enormous arm length. -Our D could rise to #1 by the end of the season.

From BigBlueview-
Player comparison: Justin Tuck (NFL.com), Chandler Jones (Jones is mentioned in this Carradine breakdown)
He gets more publicity for his pass rushing, but immediately in the NFL he'll be a better run stopper.


http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl-draft/2013/3/2/4050522/2013-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-tank-carradine-de-florida-state-new-york-giants
I think you can throw out a lot of these comparisons though because he won't play 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. He'll play 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT when we go to the 4 man front. We actually play a lot of 4 DL with Brooks, Ray, Justin, Aldon. He's probably gained 10-15 pounds from his playing days so I'm not sure you can compare him any of those guys now with what we will expect from him.

Here is what I had back when I broke down 4 games of him a week or so after we drafted him:

-I like his quickness around the edge. Has a nice jump off the ball. Good closing speed and seems to find the QB in the pocket.

-Looking at him now I see him more of a pass rusher than a run stopper. Of course he will get better at that as he bulks up. It's to be expected when he's playing 4-3 DE there and not 3-4 DE like he will here. He did a nice job moving down the line and weeding through the traffic to make the tackle or help make the tackle. I seen him take on double teams on occasion. Held his own at times, others moved back, didn't seem to get a push when doubled. Did decent in run stopping (especially 1 on 1) in his own area but seemed better when he was working his way down the line or chasing and had space after the RB had gotten a yard or two beyond the OL/DL. I think eventually when he gets to 290-295 he will be able to hold his own in the run and should be able to keep most of that pass rush ability and athleticism. That 15-20 will be muscle mostly, don't want much fat. Not worried as anybody who is around Justin and this group of players and staff will soon be in the best shape of their life. He will get bigger and stronger while maintaining his quickness or most of it at least.

-I liked his relentlessness when the QB was in the pocket. Got a lot of hits/tackles on the QB shortly after him releasing it. Even if the ball is gone every hit/tackle counts and wears on them. I seen a bunch of tackles downfield on hustle plays. I didn't like the effort on some but those were mostly when the ball wasn't directly in his area. Pass rush moves... I would say his quickness around the edge is used the most. Bull rush some what. He has a nice move from outside to inside. 3-4 DE's wont use this but didn't see any spins. Saw him dip a few times, would like to see more rips and swims with his long arms but seen some. Too many times just seen him go into the guy not doing any moves, didn't do anything with his arms. So he is raw and still working on his moves but with his long arms and Tomsula they will fix that. Look at how much Aldon has improved with his arms. Also, I'd like to see him get his long arms on the defender more often. Use them to control him. Seems like a lot of the time he doesn't do that.

-I think he did a pretty good job when Florida ran some option. Did well on the pitches inside to the RB. He's got pretty good instincts and recognition in run defense.

-In the 3 games seen him drop once into space and drop once in coverage on a man. Justin drops into space once in a great while to throw off the defense. So Carradine can definitely do it now if they want him to and should still have no problem doing it when he bulks up due to his athleticism.

Summary:
very athletic with long arms, very good in pursuit of rb, good effort and hustles, raw with pass rush moves, has some but will continue to develop them and also work on using his arms better (and more), played 4-3 de and was more of a pass rusher, will get better holding his own in the run (especially double teams) as he bulks up. more effective as a quick around the edge guy than a bull rusher but again that will change with him bulking up. Pretty good instincts and recognition with run and option... pitches.... does a good job getting to the qb even if it isnt for a sack... works well in the pocket... pretty good speed and can be explosive in pursuit
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Oct 29, 2013 at 11:06 PM ]
Hes very much in form with Sheldon Richardson up in NY. A University of Missouri product who is playing lights out this year. He can do a little of everything, stuff the run move out to end if needed and Tank is very similar. Many thought it would be Tank in the Mid round 1 and Sheldon just after. Both players are going to be special. Only difference is Sheldonn had a bigger body of work in college to show that he was going to be a star.
Excited to see him play
Originally posted by xela510:
Excited to see him play


This.......... but it's the bye week.................
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
Hes very much in form with Sheldon Richardson up in NY. A University of Missouri product who is playing lights out this year. He can do a little of everything, stuff the run move out to end if needed and Tank is very similar. Many thought it would be Tank in the Mid round 1 and Sheldon just after. Both players are going to be special. Only difference is Sheldonn had a bigger body of work in college to show that he was going to be a star.

No one had Tank over Richardson.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
Hes very much in form with Sheldon Richardson up in NY. A University of Missouri product who is playing lights out this year. He can do a little of everything, stuff the run move out to end if needed and Tank is very similar. Many thought it would be Tank in the Mid round 1 and Sheldon just after. Both players are going to be special. Only difference is Sheldonn had a bigger body of work in college to show that he was going to be a star.

No one had Tank over Richardson.

Even if he's close, it'll be great. Richardson is a beast...
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
Hes very much in form with Sheldon Richardson up in NY. A University of Missouri product who is playing lights out this year. He can do a little of everything, stuff the run move out to end if needed and Tank is very similar. Many thought it would be Tank in the Mid round 1 and Sheldon just after. Both players are going to be special. Only difference is Sheldonn had a bigger body of work in college to show that he was going to be a star.

No one had Tank over Richardson.

Even if he's close, it'll be great. Richardson is a beast...

Yea Richardson was #1 with Carradine #2 then the injury happened.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
Hes very much in form with Sheldon Richardson up in NY. A University of Missouri product who is playing lights out this year. He can do a little of everything, stuff the run move out to end if needed and Tank is very similar. Many thought it would be Tank in the Mid round 1 and Sheldon just after. Both players are going to be special. Only difference is Sheldonn had a bigger body of work in college to show that he was going to be a star.

No one had Tank over Richardson.

Even if he's close, it'll be great. Richardson is a beast...

Yea Richardson was #1 with Carradine #2 then the injury happened.

Can you agine if he can play near Richardson's level... Wow what a boost!
Matt Miller had Tank Carradine the 5th overall prospect in last year's even with his injury
Originally posted by Cooper22:
Matt Miller had Tank Carradine the 5th overall prospect in last year's even with his injury

He also had Reid at #56 and Cyprien #22.
[ Edited by btthepunk on Oct 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM ]
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Cooper22:
Matt Miller had Tank Carradine the 5th overall prospect in last year's even with his injury

He also had Reid at #56.

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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Cooper22:
Matt Miller had Tank Carradine the 5th overall prospect in last year's even with his injury

He also had Reid at #56 and Cyprien #22.


Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by Cooper22:
Matt Miller had Tank Carradine the 5th overall prospect in last year's even with his injury

He also had Reid at #56.


I believe that sums it up in emoticon form...oh wait this what I think of those rankings