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Niners select Tank Carradine

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I get that. But i'm sure f*gan is just the exception and not the rule. Odds are in every draft, even without the injury, the pick won't pan out.

With the injury, i would imagine the odds of him becoming great are even less.

Yeah, its a risk/reward type of deal. When you're a good team with some depth you have the luxury of taking a few risks like Carradine. He was a sure fire 1st rounder without that injury. We kind of picked McDonald under similar circumstances. He was a late-1st, early-2nd prospect but dropped to late 3rd because of injury.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying. It hurts the team in the short term to have high draft choices not contributing. Hopefully it pays off long term.

Yeah but i'm not so sure our depth on the Dline was that great. With RJF and Soap departing, and now Ian out, we could of used some big bodies right about now. The only thing we did to bolster the Dline for this year after RJF and Soap left was to sign Dorsey. That wasn't enough, clearly. We are forced into playing Jerod-Eddie now.
Just going by vague memory, didn't the last team we played have under 40 yards rushing in the first half? Wasn't it something like 14yards? And we won 34 to 11? Just trying to remember what a horrible Dline we have. I could be wrong of course. Maybe I'm thinking of another team. I take in a lot of information on a daily basis.
Originally posted by 49erWay:
Just going by vague memory, didn't the last team we played have under 40 yards rushing in the first half? Wasn't it something like 14yards? And we won 34 to 11? Just trying to remember what a horrible Dline we have. I could be wrong of course. Maybe I'm thinking of another team. I take in a lot of information on a daily basis.

They had like 18 yards rushing for the game I think.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
They had like 18 yards rushing for the game I think.

Yup, and on 19 attempts. They averaged less than 1 yard per carry lol.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
They had like 18 yards rushing for the game I think.

Yup, and on 19 attempts. They averaged less than 1 yard per carry lol.

They haven't been able to run the ball against anyone this year. Take it from a guy that drafted their starting RB for my fantasy team ... statistics against St. Louis are not an accurate barometer of how good our run defense actually is.
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
They had like 18 yards rushing for the game I think.

Yup, and on 19 attempts. They averaged less than 1 yard per carry lol.

They haven't been able to run the ball against anyone this year. Take it from a guy that drafted their starting RB for my fantasy team ... statistics against St. Louis are not an accurate barometer of how good our run defense actually is.

Agreed. But on the same note our defense has not has the support that OUR run game provides to them as far as giving them breaks between series and making sure they aren't ass deep in their own territory to start a defensive drive.
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
They had like 18 yards rushing for the game I think.

Yup, and on 19 attempts. They averaged less than 1 yard per carry lol.

They haven't been able to run the ball against anyone this year. Take it from a guy that drafted their starting RB for my fantasy team ... statistics against St. Louis are not an accurate barometer of how good our run defense actually is.

Yup. Their run game, or lack thereof, is atrocious
The part I'm wondering about is that Tank tore his ACL the day before Kyle Williams ripped his but has yet to see the practice field, at least I haven't heard of that, while K Williams is back to playing with the team. I get that each rehab is different but does anyone know if there was more to Carradine's injury than a simple ACL reconstruction?
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The part I'm wondering about is that Tank tore his ACL the day before Kyle Williams ripped his but has yet to see the practice field, at least I haven't heard of that, while K Williams is back to playing with the team. I get that each rehab is different but does anyone know if there was more to Carradine's injury than a simple ACL reconstruction?

Can't practice till week 6
Originally posted by pitseleh:
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The part I'm wondering about is that Tank tore his ACL the day before Kyle Williams ripped his but has yet to see the practice field, at least I haven't heard of that, while K Williams is back to playing with the team. I get that each rehab is different but does anyone know if there was more to Carradine's injury than a simple ACL reconstruction?

Can't practice till week 6
Gracias!
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The part I'm wondering about is that Tank tore his ACL the day before Kyle Williams ripped his but has yet to see the practice field, at least I haven't heard of that, while K Williams is back to playing with the team. I get that each rehab is different but does anyone know if there was more to Carradine's injury than a simple ACL reconstruction?

I can't find it but didn't mm or b-rows report that he was still getting swelling in his knee round the time camp broke?
Originally posted by outside4949:
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The part I'm wondering about is that Tank tore his ACL the day before Kyle Williams ripped his but has yet to see the practice field, at least I haven't heard of that, while K Williams is back to playing with the team. I get that each rehab is different but does anyone know if there was more to Carradine's injury than a simple ACL reconstruction?

I can't find it but didn't mm or b-rows report that he was still getting swelling in his knee round the time camp broke?
Sounds like a good reason to back off the rehab for a while. Hope they get him back soon.
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The part I'm wondering about is that Tank tore his ACL the day before Kyle Williams ripped his but has yet to see the practice field, at least I haven't heard of that, while K Williams is back to playing with the team. I get that each rehab is different but does anyone know if there was more to Carradine's injury than a simple ACL reconstruction?

Probably takes a lineman longer to recover then a WR, or, his knee isn't right like some reported at the time of the draft.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Probably takes a lineman longer to recover then a WR, or, his knee isn't right like some reported at the time of the draft.

Hopefully it's had long enough to get right. I was under the impression he was on schedule but Baalke/Harbaugh felt more confidant handing him over to the doctors for the next 3 months instead of letting him participate in training camp.

Either way he can still produce. Don't get discouraged guys. He a natural pass rusher so he may come in with a reduced role but he will still have an affect on the game.

[ Edited by eonblue on Oct 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM ]
Sounds like the Niners are paying now for the shortcuts Tank's rehab team took to get him ready for the draft-

"Prior to the draft, many NFL teams believed there were some shortcuts taken in Carradine's rehabilitation to get him ready quickly. It appears as if the 49ers restarted Carradine's rehabilitation after selecting him in the second round – similar to what they've done with running back Marcus Lattimore (more on him later).

Carradine continues to rehab daily at the 49ers' practice facility. He should be available to being practicing shortly after Week 6, too. The 49ers have no plan to rush him onto the field, but he can be a contributor down the stretch with his ability to play anywhere on the defensive line (except nose tackle) in base or nickel."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-injury-updates-dial-could-be-backup-nt-late-season