Originally posted by thl408:
Trust me, I am a 49er fan and I do know the team. Nice try questioning my fanhood as a way to boost your argument, though. My original point is that I think teams that are planning for long term goals (rebuilding teams) are the ones that can afford to sit rookies more so than teams that have a present window for winning it all. I don't want to keep repeating the same thing. I am sure you know my view.
And I don't wanna keep repeating my point of view which you are incapable of agreeing with. But as a 49er fan and if you've been following closely, you would know the 9ers are not a win-now team. This team is being built for the present and future, Baalke doesn't work the draft the way he does to win just for the upcoming year, this is not a boom or bust team. Baalke and co. completely work the draft to acquire value for the present then set it up where they are in better shape then most teams in the following draft. Rookies don't need to start right away because of all the depth they have at each position.
I agree with your point that head coach's jobs are on the line, but a realistic GM, of a rebuilding team, has to look at the makeup of the roster and grade a coach's job on the trend of the team's play, not the overall results (wins/losses). A logical fan of a rebuilding team and a logical GM of a rebuilding team has to understand this. Can the GM of the Raiders expect to contend for a playoff spot? Only if he's on drugs. More important than wins and losses is the way the team responds to the coach, effort level, and an upward trend in performance as the season progresses. The casual fan will not understand this and will just look at wins and losses. I get that.
Well I don't know if your an NFL GM, but if your the casual fan, don't see how you would know what an NFL GM has planned or how they are assessing a team. But as far as I've seen, teams that don't win in 1-2 years are out, regardless of response...see Mike Mularkey and Hue Jackson. Both went out and addressed a major need to their team in fixing the most important position the QB, Gabbert #1 overall and Carson Palmer. Sure they didn't workout the way they thought it would, but they thought it would put them in the best position to win now. Did you think they were thinking they had cushion to not compete, trust the team responded well to Hue Jackson and his love for the Raiders.
The 49ers are in a position to mortgage some of their future for immediate help. Baalke did the opposite in drafting for the future rather than the present with the Tank pick. It doesn't help the team in 2013. I don't think that is debatable (assuming Tank doesn't suit up at all this season).
Again, the team can afford to make picks like this, there is just so much talent on the defense to have this luxury. And like I said, even if he was healthy, how much snaps do you think he'd get to even make an impact on this team knowing they do have Ray Mac, Glenn Dorsey, Justin Smith, Ian Williams, Tukuafu and Dobbs-who has been a beast in both Preseasons hes played in. Even if he doesn't help the team this year, still doesn't hurt the team now.
And to answer your question about why it isn't a problem that Lattimore sits, the 49ers are stacked at tailback. They are not at DE. Do they have adequate DE depth? I can go with 'adequate', but it is not stacked. The true DEs are RayMac, Cowboy, Dorsey.
See...reply above, but I think your over-looking a lot of players like Tukuafu, Dobbs, Divens and Dorsey who all know the defense, no reason to rush Carradine.
Also, about the 'draft 4 Lattimores' thought. A GM with proper long term vision for a rebuilding team should draft 4 Lattimores (injured player with 1st round pedigree) if the value presented itself. Imagine getting four 1st round talents (in the 4th round) the year after to significantly boost the rebuild process. Unless you stumble upon a franchise QB with the #1 overall pick (Luck), it's going to take a couple years to rebuild a team from crap to something relevant. I understand it's not a popular thing to do for the rabid fanbase, but if you have a 2-3 year plan to rebuild, you stay the course. We've never seen a team draft like this because it wasn't until recently that catastrophic injuries could realistically be rehabilitated to full health.
Proper long term vision, are you kidding me, I haven't heard about any team not wanting to compete every year and are just thinking...well we are just building for the long term.