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Vance "Big Mac" McDonald Thread

It's obvious that he hasn't adjusted to the NFL yet but he's not the first rookie who has struggled. Bet he gets benched for Celek the rest of the way out.
Ertz or Fleener would've caught that.
Little article on Vance from the 49ers main site.

"It's a completely different game," McDonald said.

From blocking small school cornerbacks to blocking NFL LBs. I thought he was going to be a weapon in the receiving game this season. Just didn't get many targets.
Originally posted by thl408:
Little article on Vance from the 49ers main site.

"It's a completely different game," McDonald said.

From blocking small school cornerbacks to blocking NFL LBs. I thought he was going to be a weapon in the receiving game this season. Just didn't get many targets.

Decent read. Hopefully he gets targeted a few times a game next year. I still think he can be a huge weapon.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Decent read. Hopefully he gets targeted a few times a game next year. I still think he can be a huge weapon.

Same. He rarely got targeted, and had a couple bad drops, but flashed some nice playmaking ability. He can really move for a guy his size. I'm hoping we spread the field more next year with 2 TE sets. We'd have a lot of scheme versatility with both VD and Vance able to line up anywhere.
Don't see the downfield speed in McDonald and when they do throw him the ball, he Roberto Duran hands, "Hands of Stone."

More importantly, Vance is too big of a guy. How many 270 lb tight ends run fast? Not many. Most are blocking tight ends.

Personally think the 49ers such bring in TE Fred Davis and give him a look. Market will be soft for him due to his injuries and 6 game suspension.
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Originally posted by Garlicboy:
Don't see the downfield speed in McDonald and when they do throw him the ball, he Roberto Duran hands, "Hands of Stone."

More importantly, Vance is too big of a guy. How many 270 lb tight ends run fast? Not many. Most are blocking tight ends.

Personally think the 49ers such bring in TE Fred Davis and give him a look. Market will be soft for him due to his injuries and 6 game suspension.

He does. He moves well at that size. His 40 time was pretty impressive if I remember correctly. I expect him to be a John Frank type tight end.
Originally posted by Nuns:
He does. He moves well at that size. His 40 time was pretty impressive if I remember correctly. I expect him to be a John Frank type tight end.

He ran a 4.7 forty yard dash. Big frickin deal. He doesn't play to his speed. He didn't run a fast 40, but a fast forty for a guy his size. Which means overall he's not a fast tight end. More importantly he didn't get separation when he ran his routes, which is fine if he would just use his size and outmuscle guys for the ball when it's in the air ala Anquan Boldin, but he just doesn't have that killer in him to fight for balls. Just what I see.

Celek has some nice hands and it runs in his family as his brother Brent is a nice TE for the Eagles. Not giving up on McDonald, but Celek is a young guy as well and may the best man play.

"McDonald, like the departed Walker, doesn't have the greatest ball skills. He's capable of catching any pass but can have trouble adjusting to the defense mid-route and to the ball in flight. With Colin Kaepernick's howitzer of a right arm, McDonald won't have much time to think when catching passes from No. 7." (Niners Nation 4/6/2013).
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harbaugh and baalke can spin it however they like--but they drafted the wrong guy.
this dude blows. he better be on that juggs machine all offseason like Vernon did when he had stone hands
Originally posted by thl408:
Little article on Vance from the 49ers main site.

"It's a completely different game," McDonald said.

From blocking small school cornerbacks to blocking NFL LBs. I thought he was going to be a weapon in the receiving game this season. Just didn't get many targets.

100% agree...and I wanted Ertz or Fleener as well. But your point is spot on...how many targets did he get the past three games against Seattle? He got 2 targets. 1 he RAC's and trucks Sherman for 19. The other was in the NFCCG and goes for 13.

And then we never go back to him again...
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Originally posted by Garlicboy:
Originally posted by Nuns:
He does. He moves well at that size. His 40 time was pretty impressive if I remember correctly. I expect him to be a John Frank type tight end.

He ran a 4.7 forty yard dash. Big frickin deal. He doesn't play to his speed. He didn't run a fast 40, but a fast forty for a guy his size. Which means overall he's not a fast tight end. More importantly he didn't get separation when he ran his routes, which is fine if he would just use his size and outmuscle guys for the ball when it's in the air ala Anquan Boldin, but he just doesn't have that killer in him to fight for balls. Just what I see.

Celek has some nice hands and it runs in his family as his brother Brent is a nice TE for the Eagles. Not giving up on McDonald, but Celek is a young guy as well and may the best man play.

"McDonald, like the departed Walker, doesn't have the greatest ball skills. He's capable of catching any pass but can have trouble adjusting to the defense mid-route and to the ball in flight. With Colin Kaepernick's howitzer of a right arm, McDonald won't have much time to think when catching passes from No. 7." (Niners Nation 4/6/2013).

McDonald has played a total one year in the NFL.

It might be a bit early to write his definitive football obituary.

I do have a question. Are you from Gilroy?
Vance had a bad year and it did not help when Harbaugh hyped him up to take Mike Ditka's number. He had 2 key drops, that may have made a difference in a game. With that said he has shown flashes. His blocking was good, extremely good considering he was a hybrid TE slot receiver out of Rice. His athleticism can be seen on the field, the Sherman truck and hurdling over tacklers. If he works hard and continues to get a better understanding he could develop to become one of the best #2 TE in the league which really is not asking much.
Originally posted by NCommand:
100% agree...and I wanted Ertz or Fleener as well. But your point is spot on...how many targets did he get the past three games against Seattle? He got 2 targets. 1 he RAC's and trucks Sherman for 19. The other was in the NFCCG and goes for 13.

And then we never go back to him again...

Fleener has pretty inconsistent hands too, but he gets more targets and his steadily improving...I think its is flat out stupid to call any player a bust after one year. Some players take time to develop. To many people expect everything now, probably were spoiled children.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Decent read. Hopefully he gets targeted a few times a game next year. I still think he can be a huge weapon.

Why do a lot of you guys think he can be a "huge weapon" in the NFL? That's a big statement. What has he shown for us to conclude that? His speed is below average at this level, his hands haven't translated. I just don't get how you can feel that way right now.
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