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Vance "Big Mac" McDonald Thread

I'm sick of the whiners here.

McDonald has made some really great grabs this rookie season.

Someone please post a vid of that play to McDonald.

Lets see if it was indeed that he is so terrible as claimed by some here, or if indeed the defender made strong play.

Lets see THE TRUTH PLEASE.
Defender made a great play on that pass. Give him 50% blame.
Originally posted by 49erWay:
I'm sick of the whiners here.

McDonald has made some really great grabs this rookie season.

Someone please post a vid of that play to McDonald.

Lets see if it was indeed that he is so terrible as claimed by some here, or if indeed the defender made strong play.

Lets see THE TRUTH PLEASE.

LOL. He has made how many "great" grabs? Two? I was worried about his lack of athleticism at this level. With that said, he could be "Witten type" (not saying he will be that good, but same possession type guy) because his hands are supposed to be good. The kid cannot drop the ball. Point blank. He f**ked up big time yesterday and his rookie season has not been impressive. He needs to step up. And step up NOW
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
this offense missed Delaine Walker bad...

Agreed. You always want guys with different skillsets and we probably should of went after someone like Jordan Reed.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Defender made a great play on that pass. Give him 50% blame.

f**k that. He is an NFL tight end. Perfect pass and he had it in his hands. Have to hold on. You don't give Kap any passes, don't give him one. In that situation, you gotta make that play
Originally posted by sacniner:
LOL. He has made how many "great" grabs? Two? I was worried about his lack of athleticism at this level. With that said, he could be "Witten type" (not saying he will be that good, but same possession type guy) because his hands are supposed to be good. The kid cannot drop the ball. Point blank. He f**ked up big time yesterday and his rookie season has not been impressive. He needs to step up. And step up NOW

they design 1 play a game to go to him. hard for anyone to produce when they're blocking 85% of the time they're in the game.

let him loose. the coaches are scared more and more its looking like they're actually holding the players back. let's not forget they're in their 3rd year of coaching too
I'm not really all that worried about Vance McDonald at this point. He is a rookie, and the coaching staff is utilizing him mostly for blocking. Yes he should have made that catch down the seam, but the defender did also pull his arms, which helped dislodge the ball from his grasp. He still should have made the catch, but being that he is a rookie and that mistakes like that are expected, I don't want to really dwell on it. Also, he needs more reps to get into a rhythm. We use him almost purely for blocking, and we don't target him on most of the plays where he's running a route, and then we expect him to make a great catch the one time he is targeted. Not very reasonable.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Defender made a great play on that pass. Give him 50% blame.

f**k that. He is an NFL tight end. Perfect pass and he had it in his hands. Have to hold on. You don't give Kap any passes, don't give him one. In that situation, you gotta make that play

The LB started ripping his arm down once the ball made contact. Its a strength vs strength scenario. It it was a DB I think he holds on, against whoever it was its a toss up. That guy had great coverage, Panthers have a player in that guy.
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by sacniner:
LOL. He has made how many "great" grabs? Two? I was worried about his lack of athleticism at this level. With that said, he could be "Witten type" (not saying he will be that good, but same possession type guy) because his hands are supposed to be good. The kid cannot drop the ball. Point blank. He f**ked up big time yesterday and his rookie season has not been impressive. He needs to step up. And step up NOW

they design 1 play a game to go to him. hard for anyone to produce when they're blocking 85% of the time they're in the game.

let him loose. the coaches are scared more and more its looking like they're actually holding the players back. let's not forget they're in their 3rd year of coaching too

He will have plenty of opportunities this week and several plays where he'll be the first read. Lets see how he does. At this point, the coaches don't know what they have with him. When he gets a chance, he NEEDS to make a play. Maybe if he made that grab, we would have won the game and the coaches would have more confidence in him. That drop was inexcusable in that situation.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Defender made a great play on that pass. Give him 50% blame.

f**k that. He is an NFL tight end. Perfect pass and he had it in his hands. Have to hold on. You don't give Kap any passes, don't give him one. In that situation, you gotta make that play

The LB started ripping his arm down once the ball made contact. Its a strength vs strength scenario. It it was a DB I think he holds on, against whoever it was its a toss up. That guy had great coverage, Panthers have a player in that guy.

Yes, that LB ripped his arms down. Guess what? That happens a lot in the NFL and everyone is strong. Even DBs. Have to make that play. That's how you win games and get the coaches to give you more plays. You seem to give Kap no passes and you're giving this kid one in the biggest drop of the game. That was huge. Hold on to the ball. He needs to step up in NO. No excuses.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Defender made a great play on that pass. Give him 50% blame.

f**k that. He is an NFL tight end. Perfect pass and he had it in his hands. Have to hold on. You don't give Kap any passes, don't give him one. In that situation, you gotta make that play

The LB started ripping his arm down once the ball made contact. Its a strength vs strength scenario. It it was a DB I think he holds on, against whoever it was its a toss up. That guy had great coverage, Panthers have a player in that guy.

Yes, that LB ripped his arms down. Guess what? That happens a lot in the NFL and everyone is strong. Even DBs. Have to make that play. That's how you win games and get the coaches to give you more plays. You seem to give Kap no passes and you're giving this kid one in the biggest drop of the game. That was huge. Hold on to the ball. He needs to step up in NO. No excuses.


perfect position to rip his arm back, its a hard catch with his arm in that position
Originally posted by sacniner:
He will have plenty of opportunities this week and several plays where he'll be the first read. Lets see how he does. At this point, the coaches don't know what they have with him. When he gets a chance, he NEEDS to make a play. Maybe if he made that grab, we would have won the game and the coaches would have more confidence in him. That drop was inexcusable in that situation.

maybe but how many times does it have to come down to 1 chance a game though and you're judged off of that 1 chance. to me that isn't fair.

is there any reason he hasn't been a target in the redzone... i asked how many td's would he have with the patriots right now off redzone alone?
and is there any viable reason we can't use him the same way with vernon..
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Defender made a great play on that pass. Give him 50% blame.

f**k that. He is an NFL tight end. Perfect pass and he had it in his hands. Have to hold on. You don't give Kap any passes, don't give him one. In that situation, you gotta make that play

The LB started ripping his arm down once the ball made contact. Its a strength vs strength scenario. It it was a DB I think he holds on, against whoever it was its a toss up. That guy had great coverage, Panthers have a player in that guy.

Yes, that LB ripped his arms down. Guess what? That happens a lot in the NFL and everyone is strong. Even DBs. Have to make that play. That's how you win games and get the coaches to give you more plays. You seem to give Kap no passes and you're giving this kid one in the biggest drop of the game. That was huge. Hold on to the ball. He needs to step up in NO. No excuses.


perfect position to rip his arm back, its a hard catch with his arm in that position

I don't mean to be subjective, but I was at the game and had a view of the back end of this play.

Whether it was miscommunication or by design, Vance Mcdonald -- for some reason -- veered outside, as opposed to running a linear streak down the field as he was untouched. In my opinion, it's for that reason that he was forced to catch it low and away from his body (making it susceptible to a rip move) than comfortably high-pointing the ball. Rookie woes, I guess.
[ Edited by Imfasterthanur on Nov 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM ]
If Vance did a Vernon jump-catch on the one he dropped, he would have protected the ball better and possibly made the reception.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by 49erWay:
I'm sick of the whiners here.

McDonald has made some really great grabs this rookie season.

Someone please post a vid of that play to McDonald.

Lets see if it was indeed that he is so terrible as claimed by some here, or if indeed the defender made strong play.

Lets see THE TRUTH PLEASE.

LOL. He has made how many "great" grabs? Two? I was worried about his lack of athleticism at this level. With that said, he could be "Witten type" (not saying he will be that good, but same possession type guy) because his hands are supposed to be good. The kid cannot drop the ball. Point blank. He f**ked up big time yesterday and his rookie season has not been impressive. He needs to step up. And step up NOW

seriously. these fool is callin people out when he doesnt even remember the play. the defender didnt get to his arms til after he already dropped it. hit him right in the hands and he couldnt handle it. i think for every catch hes made hes dropped two or three