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Vance "Big Mac" McDonald Thread

Originally posted by GNS1310:
Vernons gonna be our #2 WR while McD lights it up at TE this year.
Have fun Kaep.
You know I love it.
Nah. Two tight end sets will be the norm and there will be a #2 receiver other than Davis, although he will get a few shots wide in each game maybe.

This isn't Madden.
Excited to see what he can do.
I was not able to find this topic in this thread (might have missed it), but what do you guys think about Vance actually taking over for VD's role and VD taking over for Delanie Walker's role. That is, VD will now be the guy that lines up all over the place, is the lead blocker on some running plays, and the guy creating huge mismatches in coverage, while Vance is the inline blocker.

I know Vance has no experience being an inline blocker and would have to be coached up, but it seems Vance's body type is more suited to be exploding into LBs and DEs. VD, with his freakish quickness, can be a fantastic lead blocker on those quick hitting run plays. I'm not sure how well Vance can handle being a lead blocker on run plays, but he just seems too big to play that role. His 40 time (straight line speed) is good, but how agile is he? If the answer is not much, then I feel he is better suited to be the inline TE.

(if this has been discussed, please reference the thread page, thanks)
Originally posted by thl408:
I was not able to find this topic in this thread (might have missed it), but what do you guys think about Vance actually taking over for VD's role and VD taking over for Delanie Walker's role. That is, VD will now be the guy that lines up all over the place, is the lead blocker on some running plays, and the guy creating huge mismatches in coverage, while Vance is the inline blocker.

I know Vance has no experience being an inline blocker and would have to be coached up, but it seems Vance's body type is more suited to be exploding into LBs and DEs. VD, with his freakish quickness, can be a fantastic lead blocker on those quick hitting run plays. I'm not sure how well Vance can handle being a lead blocker on run plays, but he just seems too big to play that role. His 40 time (straight line speed) is good, but how agile is he? If the answer is not much, then I feel he is better suited to be the inline TE.

(if this has been discussed, please reference the thread page, thanks)

Good post but I just see no reason Vance wouldn't be able to do both. If a guy like Bruce Miller can move around and lead block, I don't see why a guy like Vance couldn't. I know it's 2 different stories/positions but as far as "getting out and making those blocks" i just don't feel you NEED to be overly quick.
Originally posted by thl408:
I was not able to find this topic in this thread (might have missed it), but what do you guys think about Vance actually taking over for VD's role and VD taking over for Delanie Walker's role. That is, VD will now be the guy that lines up all over the place, is the lead blocker on some running plays, and the guy creating huge mismatches in coverage, while Vance is the inline blocker.

I know Vance has no experience being an inline blocker and would have to be coached up, but it seems Vance's body type is more suited to be exploding into LBs and DEs. VD, with his freakish quickness, can be a fantastic lead blocker on those quick hitting run plays. I'm not sure how well Vance can handle being a lead blocker on run plays, but he just seems too big to play that role. His 40 time (straight line speed) is good, but how agile is he? If the answer is not much, then I feel he is better suited to be the inline TE.

(if this has been discussed, please reference the thread page, thanks)

Nice post...already seeing VD out wide, I'm sure he'll line up out of the Q formation, wham blocks, reverses, screens, etc. If McDonald continues to develop, they could be used interchangeably but I think you are on to something here. You get your playmakers the ball in their hands any way you can. Hell, the Rams beat us with Amendola this way with one collar bone! They moved him ALL over the place and created mismatches. I think using VD as the new "swiss army knife" is brilliant! Getting to a point where you can use VD and McDonald interchangeably will be a nightmare for defenses!
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM ]
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read this dude has bad DNA in his hands
Originally posted by boast:
read this dude has bad DNA in his hands

What does this mean?
Originally posted by boast:
read this dude has bad DNA in his hands

If has a pancake has a potato its thereby known as a patato. True story.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by boast:
read this dude has bad DNA in his hands

What does this mean?

maybe it means he likes eating GM foods
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by boast:
read this dude has bad DNA in his hands

If has a pancake has a potato its thereby known as a patato. True story.

seems legit.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Good post but I just see no reason Vance wouldn't be able to do both. If a guy like Bruce Miller can move around and lead block, I don't see why a guy like Vance couldn't. I know it's 2 different stories/positions but as far as "getting out and making those blocks" i just don't feel you NEED to be overly quick.

I suppose quickness is not a requisite, but it would help to get downfield and get the angle on blocking DBs in open space. This Oline can get the lead blocker to the second level unscathed. Also, in a 3 point stance, Vance could really drive forward with all that mass. Making this swap in roles can also reduce the wear on VD's body that's been blocking hard for years.


Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice post...already seeing VD out wide, I'm sure he'll line up out of the Q formation, wham blocks, reverses, screens, etc. If McDonald continues to develop, they could be used interchangeably but I think you are on to something here. You get your playmakers the ball in their hands any way you can. Hell, the Rams beat us with Amendola this way with one collar bone! They moved him ALL over the place and created mismatches. I think using VD as the new "swiss army knife" is brilliant! Getting to a point where you can use VD and McDonald interchangeably will be a nightmare for defenses!

That just might be the goal for Harbaugh. A dual H-back set is unstoppable with a QB with a rocket arm and dynamic Hbacks. It provides line blocking plus receivers who get downfield. A traditional fullback can't provide that. Either the defense is equipped with two good coverage LBs or Kap fires short ranged lasers all day.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
McDonald has never really played TE, he was a slot reciever in college.

D. Walker was a reciever in college as well.

This will be interesting!

Thats a misnomer, he was used everywhere. Early on he played allot more in the slot but in his senior year he played more at TE than slot.

And he's 6'5" 267 with long arms and from what we hear, looks as if he has solid hands.

Dude's gonna be a stud.

I like Vance, but the kid needs to work on his hands. The knock on him coming outta college was he drops too many catch-able balls. and thats showing a bit in the pros. I am looking forward to watching this kid develop.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
McDonald has never really played TE, he was a slot reciever in college.

D. Walker was a reciever in college as well.

This will be interesting!

Thats a misnomer, he was used everywhere. Early on he played allot more in the slot but in his senior year he played more at TE than slot.

And he's 6'5" 267 with long arms and from what we hear, looks as if he has solid hands.

Dude's gonna be a stud.

I like Vance, but the kid needs to work on his hands. The knock on him coming outta college was he drops too many catch-able balls. and thats showing a bit in the pros. I am looking forward to watching this kid develop.

in fairness, shouldnt we get to his 1st preseason game before we say bad hands have followed him to the pros? he literally hasnt even played one of those meaningless games yet, let alone the real ones.
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