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Vance "Big Mac" McDonald Thread

Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by LVJay:
I like Celek a lot, but Gray does not look bad at all... any chance we keep all 4?

Maybe initially with crabtree on the mend then release one when he returns


Originally posted by frozen49er:
A 4 TE set, now that would be interesting to see.

Yeah, I wonder how creative Roman can get with that...

If it were to happen, and it worked really well for them, would they still release one when Crabs returned?


Nah, just convert Crab to a TE too. Why have 4 TE's when you can have 5.
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Originally posted by ritchie:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by LVJay:
I like Celek a lot, but Gray does not look bad at all... any chance we keep all 4?

Maybe initially with crabtree on the mend then release one when he returns


Originally posted by frozen49er:
A 4 TE set, now that would be interesting to see.

Yeah, I wonder how creative Roman can get with that...

If it were to happen, and it worked really well for them, would they still release one when Crabs returned?


Nah, just convert Crab to a TE too. Why have 4 TE's when you can have 5.


Use TEs as decoys while Kaep passes it to himself--heard he's been working on his speed
It's always so easy to predict failure early on. Some of us were just so damn sure McDonald wasn't an answer at TE.

Originally posted by Need4Speed:
Yes his 4 touchdowns his senior year shows how he dominates the 5 9 cb's he faces in a mid major conference Oh wait 4 touchdowns aint that much. Hmmm maybe we just wanting him to be better than he has been. I know one thing he is good at, he is good at dropping passes and stalk blocking. Stop reading combine numbers and watching highlights to evaluate if a guy can play. Watch one game and you won't be so koolaid about a guy that was a 4th option on a bad team.

After this last mini-camp, maybe some of you would like to re-examine your opinions about Vance McDonald:

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee singled out McDonald's play as one of the key takeaways from veteran minicamp."Vance McDonald may have been the biggest standout among the 11-man (rookie) draft class," Barrows wrote. "He was a favorite for all the quarterbacks this spring, and he showed a real knack for catching passes that weren't exactly on target… He also is quite agile for his size, and on several occasions was able to twist his body and reach back for passes that were thrown behind him. Quarterbacks love to see that, and it builds confidence that he is a safe and reliable target."
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
It's always so easy to predict failure early on. Some of us were just so damn sure McDonald wasn't an answer at TE.

Originally posted by Need4Speed:
Yes his 4 touchdowns his senior year shows how he dominates the 5 9 cb's he faces in a mid major conference Oh wait 4 touchdowns aint that much. Hmmm maybe we just wanting him to be better than he has been. I know one thing he is good at, he is good at dropping passes and stalk blocking. Stop reading combine numbers and watching highlights to evaluate if a guy can play. Watch one game and you won't be so koolaid about a guy that was a 4th option on a bad team.

After this last mini-camp, maybe some of you would like to re-examine your opinions about Vance McDonald:

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee singled out McDonald's play as one of the key takeaways from veteran minicamp."Vance McDonald may have been the biggest standout among the 11-man (rookie) draft class," Barrows wrote. "He was a favorite for all the quarterbacks this spring, and he showed a real knack for catching passes that weren't exactly on target… He also is quite agile for his size, and on several occasions was able to twist his body and reach back for passes that were thrown behind him. Quarterbacks love to see that, and it builds confidence that he is a safe and reliable target."
very very happy about this pick. Gee a second string tight end who can actually catch the ball. I am giddy. The blocking can be worked on and he will improve in that area. Last year I just thought it was insane that walker was spending so much time with the jugs machine catching balls, like that helped him. You either got hands or you do not and walker does not. On a side note,, I think all teams who signed our free agents starting with walker over payed for players who were over rated by some on the webzone. Very happy to see good things from this kid. and i am also a little tired of people looking down their nose at a smaller school or smaller conference.
at 6'4"..he's not quite as tall as gronk but if he can out muscle and out leap smaller db's/lb's at or around the goal line he should be a real force

while we do lose crabtree i think we'll be more than ok w/ boldin coming in, manningham and kyle williams returning and adding mcdonald
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Originally posted by iLL49er:
at 6'4"..he's not quite as tall as gronk but if he can out muscle and out leap smaller db's/lb's at or around the goal line he should be a real force

while we do lose crabtree i think we'll be more than ok w/ boldin coming in, manningham and kyle williams returning and adding mcdonald

of course this is the truth and what ever we get out of the kids and jenkins will be gravy
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/17/4438344/vance-mcdonald-on-new-49ers-language-and-jim-harbaugh
Originally posted by GNielsen:
It's always so easy to predict failure early on. Some of us were just so damn sure McDonald wasn't an answer at TE.

Originally posted by Need4Speed:
Yes his 4 touchdowns his senior year shows how he dominates the 5 9 cb's he faces in a mid major conference Oh wait 4 touchdowns aint that much. Hmmm maybe we just wanting him to be better than he has been. I know one thing he is good at, he is good at dropping passes and stalk blocking. Stop reading combine numbers and watching highlights to evaluate if a guy can play. Watch one game and you won't be so koolaid about a guy that was a 4th option on a bad team.

After this last mini-camp, maybe some of you would like to re-examine your opinions about Vance McDonald:

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee singled out McDonald's play as one of the key takeaways from veteran minicamp."Vance McDonald may have been the biggest standout among the 11-man (rookie) draft class," Barrows wrote. "He was a favorite for all the quarterbacks this spring, and he showed a real knack for catching passes that weren't exactly on target… He also is quite agile for his size, and on several occasions was able to twist his body and reach back for passes that were thrown behind him. Quarterbacks love to see that, and it builds confidence that he is a safe and reliable target."

Very happy to read that. The only thing that stands out to me when watching McDonald is that his hands aren't very good, but we'll find out.
Stud horse! He's going to be fun to watch for years to come!! I'm beyond excited about seeing this kid in action and when all is said and done I think we'll have the best TE tandem in football! This will be one of the best under the radar picks of this draft IMO. Mayock was the only guy I heard even mention liking this pick on draft day and at the time of the pick it got so little attention that Mayock even had to ask who the 49ers just drafted. They wouldn't even talk about it.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
It's always so easy to predict failure early on. Some of us were just so damn sure McDonald wasn't an answer at TE.

Originally posted by Need4Speed:
Yes his 4 touchdowns his senior year shows how he dominates the 5 9 cb's he faces in a mid major conference Oh wait 4 touchdowns aint that much. Hmmm maybe we just wanting him to be better than he has been. I know one thing he is good at, he is good at dropping passes and stalk blocking. Stop reading combine numbers and watching highlights to evaluate if a guy can play. Watch one game and you won't be so koolaid about a guy that was a 4th option on a bad team.

After this last mini-camp, maybe some of you would like to re-examine your opinions about Vance McDonald:

Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee singled out McDonald's play as one of the key takeaways from veteran minicamp."Vance McDonald may have been the biggest standout among the 11-man (rookie) draft class," Barrows wrote. "He was a favorite for all the quarterbacks this spring, and he showed a real knack for catching passes that weren't exactly on target… He also is quite agile for his size, and on several occasions was able to twist his body and reach back for passes that were thrown behind him. Quarterbacks love to see that, and it builds confidence that he is a safe and reliable target."

It sounds like he has laid the "bad hands" story to rest, at least for now. I will admit to being somewhat biased here in that he fills a need for an agile TE that can get open in tight places quickly and catch passes thrown under pressure. A lot of the QB sacks in the past couple of years have been the result of not having a TE that can do what McDonald appears capable of doing.
Originally posted by Hitman49:
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/17/4438344/vance-mcdonald-on-new-49ers-language-and-jim-harbaugh

Nice.
Real excited about this dude. With how much we run 2 TE sets he could be a massive weapon if he turns out to be good as good as he's looked so far. He's huge, fast, and if he's plucking balls out of the air then he'll be a great fit for our offense.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
How can you say that is way too light when Walker weighed 242 when he was with us, and was 6'0. He was a mismatch because he moved like a WR when going out for routes, very agile. That is how Reed is, looks like a WR. From McDonald's highlights, he runs like a big TE that can move. I don't think he'll be the threat like how Walker was for us, or Aaron Hernandez is for the Pats. He will be a different type of threat....like Owen Daniels, Dennis Pitta, Kyle Rudolph.

some keep saying that Vance runs a 4.6...but its actually 4.69..which is basically a 4.7. Now the good thing is McDonald is f**kin huge, and I expect the team to make him lose alittle weight..so I'm sure he will be faster come Preseason.

I'll start a thread when I get a chance, but I think Boldin will be used in certain situations that we used Walker.
Just because one loses weight doesn't mean they will get faster, plus I think the niners want him big. He will be matched up with LB and S, where he will cause mismatches in speed or size. He will have 50 lbs on the safteys and twenty lbs on most lb not to mention speed. If his hands develope and he runs into Earl Thomas over the middle, I am liking his chances of keeping his feet or getting up compared to earl. Plus, after he learns how to block better, he'll be hell of a player to block the speed rushers if necessary and neutralize them with his size while using his own to keep up with.
I like this dude, but honestly i am more excited about what he will alow us to do with VD. They will feed off each others skillsets, and inflate each others numbers based on the complimentary skillsets. Lov the way this team is being built.
I was a bit surprised that we passed on the two TEs that scouts rated above vance. If JH and trent liked him that much, plus we have seen what he can do in camp, it just looks like our GM/HC took other teams to the cleaners with the vance pick. That ought to be one helluva 2 TE set.