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Vance "Big Mac" McDonald Thread

Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Thl408, the Vance 20+ yard catch play, those redskin linebackers really bit on the play fake.

The three LB's (one is actually the SS, IIRC) actually got to their drops pretty quickly. The only one who was slow was actually dropping to the side away from Vance. Kerrigan got toasted by Vance, but he lined head up on him and had him as an assignment the whole way, he just completely failed on his re-route. This Play did a good job of attacking a poorly executed Cover 3 from a Man-1 pre-snap read, IMO.
The LB heads up on Vance was expecting a down block from vance and was bracing for it, and vance released to the outside and was gone by the time the LB realized it was a pass. He missed his opportunity to jam vance at the LOS because of the excellently executed play fake.

I've never heard of a LB that's lined head-up on a TE getting coached NOT to jam him on a run play. Giving him a free release to the 2nd level is disastrous to the run scheme. I think he'd have been screwed up, regardless of run/pass. That was my point... that and the fact that Kerrigan has no place running downfield with an athletic TE, lol.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He has better hands and decisiveness. Always catches with his hands, then immediately turns up field ..no hesitation..and if you're in his way he going to go through you if there's no way around you

Yeah, I actually think he has great hands and inconsistent concentration. IMO, that's easier to fix than stone hands. He should be fine. He's always open three feet above his head, and that's something new to the TE position for us.
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Yeah, I actually think he has great hands and inconsistent concentration. IMO, that's easier to fix than stone hands. He should be fine. He's always open three feet above his head, and that's something new to the TE position for us.

I actually wish the 2nd year players could report today also. I basically look at the classes of 2013 and 2014 with the exception of Eric Reid as all rookies.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I actually wish the 2nd year players could report today also. I basically look at the classes of 2013 and 2014 with the exception of Eric Reid as all rookies.

this.
I think Vernon Davis not showing up to OTA's and if he doesn't show up to camp, this could benefit Vance McDonald greatly. If Vance develops better hands, he could be a terror in the passing game, especially bull dozing over said DBs, lol. But I do hope VD makes it back to pair with VM. We are still better with VD in the lineup.
Originally posted by DeUh:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Yeah, I actually think he has great hands and inconsistent concentration. IMO, that's easier to fix than stone hands. He should be fine. He's always open three feet above his head, and that's something new to the TE position for us.


AND like he said in his interview, he didn't have that many opportunities to get used to CK's fast ball. Now though, he's getting his timing/chemistry down with him (thanks VD) and so this off season for him has been much smoother.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 17, 2014 at 9:06 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Yeah, I actually think he has great hands and inconsistent concentration. IMO, that's easier to fix than stone hands. He should be fine. He's always open three feet above his head, and that's something new to the TE position for us.


AND like he said in his interview, he didn't have that many opportunities to get used to CK's fast ball. Now though, he's getting his timing/chemistry down with him (thanks VD) and so this off season for him has been much smoother.

Totally agree. Additionally, he said he was digesting so much new information that he was thinking and playing at the same time. Football is not a game for thinking. All of the thinking should be done before the snap. The rest should be read/react. His additional reps should allow him to play fast, as it is impossible to play fast while thinking through the play.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DeUh:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Yeah, I actually think he has great hands and inconsistent concentration. IMO, that's easier to fix than stone hands. He should be fine. He's always open three feet above his head, and that's something new to the TE position for us.


AND like he said in his interview, he didn't have that many opportunities to get used to CK's fast ball. Now though, he's getting his timing/chemistry down with him (thanks VD) and so this off season for him has been much smoother.

Totally agree. Additionally, he said he was digesting so much new information that he was thinking and playing at the same time. Football is not a game for thinking. All of the thinking should be done before the snap. The rest should be read/react. His additional reps should allow him to play fast, as it is impossible to play fast while thinking through the play.

Very very true! Obviously, the focus was on run blocking last year and ALL of the formations. Blocking included blocking out in space and downfield. That said, when they designed two passing plays for him (Seattle x2) he more than excelled so that should be encouraging for fans and should be a sign of how he can play when he's included in the passing game and knows his role pre snap (i.e. he doesn't have to think and can just "play").
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Vance refrigeration has a chance to be as good and solid as brent jones

Whoa Nellie, Brent was a world class reciever! Way more than solid.

But Vance definitely can be a dominant player if he continues to improve. He has the size and strength and some speed. If those hands soften and get magnetized to the ball, he can be one of our most productive TE's since Brent.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Vance refrigeration has a chance to be as good and solid as brent jones

Whoa Nellie, Brent was a world class reciever! Way more than solid.

But Vance definitely can be a dominant player if he continues to improve. He has the size and strength and some speed. If those hands soften and get magnetized to the ball, he can be one of our most productive TE's since Brent.

Woah, Brent Jones! That's a blast from the past! That guy was always where he was supposed to be, and he always did his job. He was the picture of consistent performance and production. That said, EVERY single time that guy went down, I thought he was injured. He was just so awkward when he jumped or got tackled his legs seemed to be going in a different direction than the rest of his body.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Vance refrigeration has a chance to be as good and solid as brent jones

Whoa Nellie, Brent was a world class reciever! Way more than solid.

But Vance definitely can be a dominant player if he continues to improve. He has the size and strength and some speed. If those hands soften and get magnetized to the ball, he can be one of our most productive TE's since Brent.

Woah, Brent Jones! That's a blast from the past! That guy was always where he was supposed to be, and he always did his job. He was the picture of consistent performance and production. That said, EVERY single time that guy went down, I thought he was injured. He was just so awkward when he jumped or got tackled his legs seemed to be going in a different direction than the rest of his body.

When he ran it always looked to me like his shoes were too big. Like a guy would run if he were wearing mini clown shoes.
Vance is an ascending player thus far in camps. That is great news because the kid has some serious potential.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Vance refrigeration has a chance to be as good and solid as brent jones

Whoa Nellie, Brent was a world class reciever! Way more than solid.

But Vance definitely can be a dominant player if he continues to improve. He has the size and strength and some speed. If those hands soften and get magnetized to the ball, he can be one of our most productive TE's since Brent.

Brent was good, I dont see why Vance cant be as good. Neither are at the level VD is.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Vance is an ascending player thus far in camps. That is great news because the kid has some serious potential.

Agreed. Very excited about Vance. He's a very smooth athlete for a guy his size.