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Anthony Davis signs five-year contract extension

Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
i think that the G position is easily replaceable. I don't want to see Iupati go, but if it comes down to crabs and Iupati, I rather keep Crabs.

Yes and no. Its easy to find a capable guard. Its hard to find a guard on the level of Iupati. IMO i would probably resign Iupati over crabtree. It is simply more important to keep the chemistry and core of the offensive line together long term for stability and chemistry than it is to resign a wr. If he was top 5, or even top ten WR, than maybe,but as of right now he is barely scratching top 15 WR's. The thing that will ensure long term success for this team is making sure we stay strong in the trenches. Right now we have a very strong arguement for the #1 offensive line in the league. I would personally like to keep it that way for the next decade.

Crabtree's productivity with Kaepernick as his QB was on par with a top 5 WR. Definitely top 10, no question. In 10 games with Kaepernick (including postseason), he put up 880 yards and 8 TDs. If you extrapolate that to 16 games, he would be on pace for around 1,400 yards and about 13 TDs. That would place him 5th in yards and tied for 2nd in TDs. Obviously, there are too many variables to assume he will be on pace for those numbers in 2013, but the point is - with Kaep as his QB - he has produced like a top WR in the league so far.


Considering that we throw the ball half as much as other teams (like the Lions), those numbers are very close to elite WR numbers, like CJ and Fitz.
The fact that we don't throw the ball as much lowers his value a bit for us, but like you said, 5th in yards and 2nd in TDs on a run first team is pretty special.

Dont get me wrong, i wwas as impressed as anyone else with his second half stretch last season, but it was one ten game stretch in his career, Hopefully he can continue to put it together ith Kaep, and hopefully we can resign him, But when it comes down to my personal beliefs with football, IMO it is always the wiser move to invest in the young oline and keep the chemistry together there than it is to invest at WR and keep the chemistry there. If Kaep is truely an elite QB, he will improve mediocre WR's with his passing ability, but he cant do that with a shotty oline. If you have an elite QB and a good oline everything else on the offense should be plug and play to a point.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by cciowa:
i think crabs is the low man on my totem pole of people to resign. nothing against him but ck is the cornerstone, he can make alot of people look good and since the offensive line is the key to everything you put priority on that


I think good football players should be the priority.
Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Cris Carter; no speed, but they were the cornerstones of their teams passing games. They were good no matter what quarterback was throwing them the ball. Crabtree is that type of player. This is important because it means that he will be good later on in his career too, because he doesn't depend on his youth and his raw speed to make things happen.
(For those who are enamored by speed, you should be clamoring for us to sign a guy named Ted Ginn, he is really really fast. Wow, look at him run.)

Iupati is another good athlete, but as I said when they were drafted, I thought Anthony Davis could become the better player in a few years. Iupati still relies heavily on raw strength and athleticism, Davis is a better technician than him at this point. As Davis continues to improve, look for him to be our top lineman in the next year or two.
As Iupati gets older (like Randy Moss), he will no longer be able to rely on pure power and movement ability. This is why I prefer to sign the good football players over the good athletes. The good football players (Crabtree) have a longer shelf life.

Davis is a priority because he is a Tackle. Iupate is one of the best Guards in the league. He's not to be underestimated. But it just comes down to how many guys can we afford at big dollars on the O Line.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by SFrush:
Only 2-3 QB's in the League get 20 mil per season. Kaep won't get that much.


Those contracts are only setting the benchmark for future contracts.

With players like Stafford and Eli Manning making 20 million in 2013, and players like Flacco, Romo, and Brees making well over that in 2014+ do you really think Kap's agent is going to fall asleep at the wheel when its time to renew his contract in 2014?

Heck, Phillip Rivers is nearly making 20 million (17.1). You think Kap's agent is seriously going to ask for, what, 16 million?

When those players signed those contracts they had shown more for longer than Kaep has.
Stafford is overpaid but he IS a pretty good QB who puts up big numbers.
Eli has 2 rings and 2 superbowl MVP's.
Flacco has won a playoff game every year in the league and just won a superbowl MVP.
Brees is a major QB record holder and holds several more NFL records and he too is a superbowl MVP.
Rivers was an MVP candidate a couple years but has fallen apart. Has won more playoff games than Kaep.
Romo obviously is overpaid but he has always put up big numbers and holds several Cowboys records including TD's and lowest interception rate. He even holds the #5 all time NFL career passer rating. Just falls apart in the playoffs like the rest of his team.

I love Kaepernick and want him here for a long long time. He is not a $20M QB yet though. He'll need to win an MVP and a superbowl in the next two years to get that.
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by Beeker:
Resign EREBODY!!!!!

....and move them to FS!


Originally posted by LoneWolf:
THIS!!!!

almost every where i read about it this is a great signing everywhere except at Walter football (who I usually agree with for the most part he said:

49ers extend OT Anthony Davis (5 years, $37.3M; $17M guaranteed): B- Grade
Anthony Davis is coming off a stellar third season in the NFL. He had his ups and downs in his first two years, but he improved his play greatly in 2012, earning the distinction of being one of the top-five highest-paid right tackles in the league.

I recognize how talented Davis is, so keep that in mind when I say that I'm not a big fan of this contract for two reasons. First, with Andre Smith, Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston just sitting out there on the market as of this writing, it's more apparent than ever that the NFL doesn't view the right tackle position very highly (which is why the Jaguars and Raiders, and probably the Eagles, will pass on Eric Fisher in the 2013 NFL Draft). Paying this kind of money to a right tackle seems unnecessary. And second, Davis had work-ethic questions coming out of Rutgers. He hasn't shown any signs of that in the NFL, but will all of this guaranteed money get into his head? Probably not, but it definitely is a possibility.

Interesting thought what do you guys think about his analysis?
Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
almost every where i read about it this is a great signing everywhere except at Walter football (who I usually agree with for the most part he said:

49ers extend OT Anthony Davis (5 years, $37.3M; $17M guaranteed): B- Grade
Anthony Davis is coming off a stellar third season in the NFL. He had his ups and downs in his first two years, but he improved his play greatly in 2012, earning the distinction of being one of the top-five highest-paid right tackles in the league.

I recognize how talented Davis is, so keep that in mind when I say that I'm not a big fan of this contract for two reasons. First, with Andre Smith, Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston just sitting out there on the market as of this writing, it's more apparent than ever that the NFL doesn't view the right tackle position very highly (which is why the Jaguars and Raiders, and probably the Eagles, will pass on Eric Fisher in the 2013 NFL Draft). Paying this kind of money to a right tackle seems unnecessary. And second, Davis had work-ethic questions coming out of Rutgers. He hasn't shown any signs of that in the NFL, but will all of this guaranteed money get into his head? Probably not, but it definitely is a possibility.

Interesting thought what do you guys think about his analysis?

I think that Baalke is a lot smarter than some dork named Walter.
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Walters take is fair. But unlike the league the 49ers value the rt position and its vital in our offense
Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
almost every where i read about it this is a great signing everywhere except at Walter football (who I usually agree with for the most part he said:

49ers extend OT Anthony Davis (5 years, $37.3M; $17M guaranteed): B- Grade
Anthony Davis is coming off a stellar third season in the NFL. He had his ups and downs in his first two years, but he improved his play greatly in 2012, earning the distinction of being one of the top-five highest-paid right tackles in the league.

I recognize how talented Davis is, so keep that in mind when I say that I'm not a big fan of this contract for two reasons. First, with Andre Smith, Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston just sitting out there on the market as of this writing, it's more apparent than ever that the NFL doesn't view the right tackle position very highly (which is why the Jaguars and Raiders, and probably the Eagles, will pass on Eric Fisher in the 2013 NFL Draft). Paying this kind of money to a right tackle seems unnecessary. And second, Davis had work-ethic questions coming out of Rutgers. He hasn't shown any signs of that in the NFL, but will all of this guaranteed money get into his head? Probably not, but it definitely is a possibility.

Interesting thought what do you guys think about his analysis?

I think the 49ers overpaid. His contract numbers top all of the contracts handed out to right tackles this year. When guys like Andre Smith and Eric Winston can't find a job, $7+ million/season is quite rich.
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
almost every where i read about it this is a great signing everywhere except at Walter football (who I usually agree with for the most part he said:

49ers extend OT Anthony Davis (5 years, $37.3M; $17M guaranteed): B- Grade
Anthony Davis is coming off a stellar third season in the NFL. He had his ups and downs in his first two years, but he improved his play greatly in 2012, earning the distinction of being one of the top-five highest-paid right tackles in the league.

I recognize how talented Davis is, so keep that in mind when I say that I'm not a big fan of this contract for two reasons. First, with Andre Smith, Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston just sitting out there on the market as of this writing, it's more apparent than ever that the NFL doesn't view the right tackle position very highly (which is why the Jaguars and Raiders, and probably the Eagles, will pass on Eric Fisher in the 2013 NFL Draft). Paying this kind of money to a right tackle seems unnecessary. And second, Davis had work-ethic questions coming out of Rutgers. He hasn't shown any signs of that in the NFL, but will all of this guaranteed money get into his head? Probably not, but it definitely is a possibility.

Interesting thought what do you guys think about his analysis?

I think the 49ers overpaid. His contract numbers top all of the contracts handed out to right tackles this year. When guys like Andre Smith and Eric Winston can't find a job, $7+ million/season is quite rich.


Disagree. If Gosder Cherilus, who has been average, can get 34.5M over 5 seasons, then Davis can get the 37M. Plus not sure if this includes his current base salaries. He still has prorated bonuses owed to him.
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Waste of money. He sucks as a run blocker. Way to go Baalke you dummy.
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Originally posted by 49erRider:
Crabtree's productivity with Kaepernick as his QB was on par with a top 5 WR. Definitely top 10, no question. In 10 games with Kaepernick (including postseason), he put up 880 yards and 8 TDs. If you extrapolate that to 16 games, he would be on pace for around 1,400 yards and about 13 TDs. That would place him 5th in yards and tied for 2nd in TDs. Obviously, there are too many variables to assume he will be on pace for those numbers in 2013, but the point is - with Kaep as his QB - he has produced like a top WR in the league so far.

You may be right, but the resigning or extending of Crabtree will at the end of the day depend on Crabtree and what he wants to do.

I think that he will want to hit free agency no matter what he is offered. And, I have no problem with that; it is his right.

Baalke and the front office will offer him a deal that they feel is reasonable, but I have little doubt that if he has a good year, his value on the open market will increase. And that is where he will go.

He will walk and we let him walk are not the same.
Originally posted by fastforward:
I think the 49ers overpaid. His contract numbers top all of the contracts handed out to right tackles this year. When guys like Andre Smith and Eric Winston can't find a job, $7+ million/season is quite rich.

in 2 years it will look cheap
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
almost every where i read about it this is a great signing everywhere except at Walter football (who I usually agree with for the most part he said:

49ers extend OT Anthony Davis (5 years, $37.3M; $17M guaranteed): B- Grade
Anthony Davis is coming off a stellar third season in the NFL. He had his ups and downs in his first two years, but he improved his play greatly in 2012, earning the distinction of being one of the top-five highest-paid right tackles in the league.

I recognize how talented Davis is, so keep that in mind when I say that I'm not a big fan of this contract for two reasons. First, with Andre Smith, Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston just sitting out there on the market as of this writing, it's more apparent than ever that the NFL doesn't view the right tackle position very highly (which is why the Jaguars and Raiders, and probably the Eagles, will pass on Eric Fisher in the 2013 NFL Draft). Paying this kind of money to a right tackle seems unnecessary. And second, Davis had work-ethic questions coming out of Rutgers. He hasn't shown any signs of that in the NFL, but will all of this guaranteed money get into his head? Probably not, but it definitely is a possibility.

Interesting thought what do you guys think about his analysis?

I think the 49ers overpaid. His contract numbers top all of the contracts handed out to right tackles this year. When guys like Andre Smith and Eric Winston can't find a job, $7+ million/season is quite rich.


Disagree. If Gosder Cherilus, who has been average, can get 34.5M over 5 seasons, then Davis can get the 37M. Plus not sure if this includes his current base salaries. He still has prorated bonuses owed to him.

And Davis is way better than all of them. Cherilus is probably the worst one of them.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by fastforward:
I think the 49ers overpaid. His contract numbers top all of the contracts handed out to right tackles this year. When guys like Andre Smith and Eric Winston can't find a job, $7+ million/season is quite rich.

in 2 years it will look cheap

Yea, in a few years it will look like Staleys
Originally posted by Haha:
Waste of money. He sucks as a run blocker. Way to go Baalke you dummy.
Dear god, I hope your being sarcastic because even for a troll that's a stupid thing to say. The least you could do is call him a terrible pass blocker because that's what he's struggled in recent years. As a run blocker? he's one, if not the best at it at his position.
[ Edited by Timdiz on Apr 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM ]