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Crabtree lost vision in SB...

  • AmpLee
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Originally posted by Beeker:
Originally posted by 49Fever:
Originally posted by AmpLee:

Is your point : this is a blatant personal foul by hitting a defensless receiver in the head with the top of his helmet ?
OK i agree

And in all actuality, it SHOULD have been a catch and fumble out of bounds at the 3. But then we have that pesky Calvin Johnson rule LOL

There are only two possible outcomes in this play. If the refs ruled that Crabtree made a football move with the ball, he is no longer defenseless and the result is a fumble out of bounds at the three. If the refs rule that Crabtree was defenseless because there was no football move it's an incomplete pass and a helmet to helmet penalty. There exists no gray area for the ruling to be an incomplete pass without a penalty.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
he should've acted unconscious after that. Then they'd HAVE to throw the flag.

Yup that is what he should be trained to do in the event of a helmet collision like that where it actually takes immediate affects to your processors. But you will not see another down in the game as collateral.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Amazing that wasn't called
This is just pissing me off all over again.....every day I have thought of this all the blown no calls ....

CC sorry dude, cant help you out here....
Originally posted by 49erRider:
The thing about that is it was within 5 yards. That one is actually disputable. The plays in question here are not. They are blatant.

I don't get why people are calling it the same thing. I've heard people say "Well Bowman got away with it in the ATL game". It was within 5 yards people! The last play of the SB, the hold was in the end zone. The line of scrimmage was at the 7. NOT within the allowed 5 yards.
Originally posted by AmpLee:

lol with all the lame ass helmet to helmet calls this year and some called on us that weren't, you'd think they'd call that one or we'd get at least one in our favor
Originally posted by AmpLee:
There are only two possible outcomes in this play. If the refs ruled that Crabtree made a football move with the ball, he is no longer defenseless and the result is a fumble out of bounds at the three. If the refs rule that Crabtree was defenseless because there was no football move it's an incomplete pass and a helmet to helmet penalty. There exists no gray area for the ruling to be an incomplete pass without a penalty.
I believe the general rule of thumb on making a "football move" is two steps. He only takes one step before he gets clocked. It's just another bad non-call, period. It's almost like they were going to let the Ravens do whatever they wanted to to prevent that Niner touchdown.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
This is pouring salt on the wound. Has to be one of the worst performances by the refs I've ever seen in a Super Bowl. It's worse than the Seahawks-Steelers and that was a debacle. It's real hard not to come to the conclusion that the refs just didn't want the Niners to get that last TD. I mean every time something like that happened all season it's hands-down half the distance to the goal, first and goal.

To add insult to injury ..... 1st and goal from the 3, guaranteed the 49ers run it in. Guaran-frickin-teed.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
There are only two possible outcomes in this play. If the refs ruled that Crabtree made a football move with the ball, he is no longer defenseless and the result is a fumble out of bounds at the three. If the refs rule that Crabtree was defenseless because there was no football move it's an incomplete pass and a helmet to helmet penalty. There exists no gray area for the ruling to be an incomplete pass without a penalty.
I believe the general rule of thumb on making a "football move" is two steps. He only takes one step before he gets clocked. It's just another bad non-call, period. It's almost like they were going to let the Ravens do whatever they wanted to to prevent that Niner touchdown.

"Almost" is a stretch
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
if you want to play the game you gotta catch the ball luv. all year long our team was touted as the bullies of the nfl. well the ravens were the ones who punched us in the mouth and our reaction or the coaches reaction at the end, was to crawl into a fetal position

sorry but i said nothing wrong. the coaches did craw into a fetal position at the end of the game. I know i am in the minority here with my views but people in the minority are usually able to see things more clearly then those in the majority

He either caught it and fumbled (which wasn't called) or its helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver/incomplete pass. Which was it? All they called was an incomplete pass, which is not the accurate call, in my opinion. It's not really complaining. I think people just want clarity for the future.
Originally posted by guillotine31:
He either caught it and fumbled (which wasn't called) or its helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver/incomplete pass. Which was it? All they called was an incomplete pass, which is not the accurate call, in my opinion. It's not really complaining. I think people just want clarity for the future.

Well, I for one, am still complaining. It was an incomplete pass because the receiver has to take two steps after securing the ball and they called it an incomplete pass. The ref is standing right there as the Raven defender slams into Crabtree's helmet with the crown of his helmet. That penalty was called all season long. You'd be hard-put to find another instance that blatant when it wasn't called. It's just piss-poor game refereeing.

I'm ambivalent because I still think the main reason the Niners lost was that the defense collapsed and gave up 34 points, but that's just a horrible non-call. The offense should have been able to overcome the defensive collapse if not for non-calls like that.
The clarity i want is if Crabtree lost his vision on that hit why in the hell was he still on the field and we were still going to him with passes?
  • nj9er
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
this.

bowman had his hands on him within the 5 yards. when the ball was in the air, he took his hands off of him then made a play on the ball as it got close.

The Bowman play was a 4th and 5 and when you watch the replay white would have caught the ball half yard short and would of bad to turn and extend . Not to mention Bowman made a play on the ball and batted it down in front of white.

Crabtree was 4th and goal from the 6 yard line. The hold started on the goal line and a play was made on the WR not the ball.
[ Edited by nj9er on Mar 28, 2013 at 5:06 PM ]
Super Bowlscuses
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Super Bowlscuses

Doesnt have the right ring to it.