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Glenn Dorsey is a better 3-4 DE than McDonald

Empirically, Glenn Dorsey has had a better career than Ray McDonald since Dorsey came into the league in 2008. This is measured in +EPA per game. Throwing out Dorsey's shortened, awful 2012 season, Dorsey is far better.

with thaat being the case. What, exactly, is the plan?
I hope he is, because if so this signing rocks!!!
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years
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Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.

I think they switched after his rookie year.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.

Yes with Dorsey
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years

No. When?
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.

Yes with Dorsey


Maybe 1 year but Pioli drafted him for the 3-4. Not many years at all. He has been in the 3-4 for the last 3 years atleast.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.

Yes with Dorsey


Maybe 1 year but Pioli drafted him for the 3-4. Not many years at all. He has been in the 3-4 for the last 3 years atleast.

wrong again, Pioli came in after Dorsey was drafted
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Empirically, Glenn Dorsey has had a better career than Ray McDonald since Dorsey came into the league in 2008. This is measured in +EPA per game. Throwing out Dorsey's shortened, awful 2012 season, Dorsey is far better.

with thaat being the case. What, exactly, is the plan?




This is absurd. Ray McDonald is actually one of the better ranked 3-4 DE's in the NFL. Dorsey is up there in terms of stopping the run but he basically finishes dead last among 3-4 DE's when it comes to generating pass-rush. As KC discovered, he's far more effective playing inside.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.

Yes with Dorsey


Maybe 1 year but Pioli drafted him for the 3-4. Not many years at all. He has been in the 3-4 for the last 3 years atleast.

wrong again, Pioli came in after Dorsey was drafted

Thats right, he picked Tyson jackson the year after. Dorsey played in the 4-3 1 year, not many like you stated.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by jreff22:
KC ran the 4-3 for a number of years


NO, not with Dorsey.

Yes with Dorsey


Maybe 1 year but Pioli drafted him for the 3-4. Not many years at all. He has been in the 3-4 for the last 3 years atleast.

wrong again, Pioli came in after Dorsey was drafted

Thats right, he picked Tyson jackson the year after. Dorsey played in the 4-3 1 year, not many like you stated.

I thought the original change was a few years afterwards but I do remember people asking how Dorsey would fit in the 3-4 because he was a true DT.
Dorsey will blossom & Flourish with the 49esrs! MARK MY WORD!! HUGE SIGNING!
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I hope he is, because if so this signing rocks!!!

Seriously, if he can play as good or better than Ray Mac,who I feel is a very good underrated player, then we are sitting pretty heading into the draft.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:



This is absurd. Ray McDonald is actually one of the better ranked 3-4 DE's in the NFL. Dorsey is up there in terms of stopping the run but he basically finishes dead last among 3-4 DE's when it comes to generating pass-rush. As KC discovered, he's far more effective playing inside.

This, Ray Mac is awesome and goes unnoticed on this star studded D. I think Dorsey is being brought in to play NT, maybe the new RJF but I have a suspicion he's our new Soap
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