This is post number 1,400 for nw9erfan.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
As much as I respect NC's viewpoints, I have to give the nod to Chauncey in this thread...
I just think guys like QB Daniels, "TE" Gray, DL Okoye, WR Lockette, OT Netter, NT Divens, and CB Cooper have a much greater chance of landing on the practice squad than making the 53. Also, guys like QB McCoy, WR K Williams, LB Haralson, and even DL Tukuafu / Dobbs are, to put it simply, unlikely to get cut. Now, guys like C Goodwin and CB Rogers? Time will tell with those 2. I can see both of them cut unless they agree to re-work their deals.
The team needs vets in some areas. They got burned in the SB because they didn't have enough pass rushing, D-line, and ST depth and/or experience (just as I predicted in the beginning of last season). I just think NCs roster is a little on the youthful / inexperienced side.
OK, now you're just hurting my feelings. LOL. Absolutely...you know me, I rarely go "safe and predictable." A few factors lead me to this youth movement and like the draft, I tried my best to pick like Baalke would; I did fairly well with that approach so I tried to adopt it here as well:
- Even on a stacked team, ask yourself how many players we've drafted and then let go...not many huh?
- We've seen a purging of the previous regime over the past few years and very few hold overs.
- This coaching staff is not afraid to start younger players if they feel they are ready and some were right away (Miller) while others were developed (Boone)
- With a stacked team now, we may for the first time, start seeing players brought in for specific roles in specific packages (example, Morris as a slot CB but also adds to ST as a gunner)
- We have clearly gone away from one-trick-pony type players and look for players who can fit specific roles but with a multiple skill set
- This coaching staff loves to develop players now to be ready instantly (if possible) with an obvious eye on the future (Okoye, Lattimore, Looney, etc.).
- So while players such as QB McCoy, WR Williams, OLB Haralson and DL Tukuafu/Dobbs are all safe and known products, at what point do the youngsters immediate talent, multi-faceted skill sets and long-term growth/development/potential overtake the aforementioned? Perhaps, that time is now...
I do think that this is a topic worthy of more discussion. After reading your post (and re-reading mine), I can better understand your thinking. I agree with the points you made that I highlighted. I agree that the Niners brass in general, want more versatility from their players (like New England does).
Where I would differ with you is this..
While I agree that the Niners might be willing to cut an experienced known quantity (a guy like Haralson for example) in favor of a player with much less experience but much higher long term upside (a guy like Lemonier for example), I don't think the Niners would cut a guy like K Williams (who likely hasn't even hit his ceiling yet and has some experience), in favor of a guy like Lockette for example, who is clearly talented but lacks experience and polish.
Also, one thing I neglected to mention in my previous post is my belief that Super Bowl winning teams are in general, not too young. The 1992 cowboys were an exception but in general, teams who win
the SB have a mixture of young talent and vet leadership. The Niners of 2012 actually were pretty young for a SB team and as it turned out, their inexperience cost them in the playoffs, just like it did in the 2011 NFC title game.
I'm not going to state the Niners are going to go with vets exclusively this off-season. What I'm stating is that given the choice between a vet and a young guy now, they may be leaning more towards the vet.....if he doesn't cost too much of course.