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The Baalke Effect...

Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows 1m
Today the #49ers acquired the 10th pick in the 2011 draft and the 42nd pick in 2012 for a 6th round pick and a conditional 7th in 2015.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows 1m
Today the #49ers acquired the 10th pick in the 2011 draft and the 42nd pick in 2012 for a 6th round pick and a conditional 7th in 2015.

I remember was it 2012 we had the 2nd most 1st rounders on our team at like 15+. Our SB reaching team was loaded with 1st rounders that others had cast off as bust and no longer wanted but we got more out of them then their drafting teams. With this staff we will gladly take busts at a fraction of the cost and try to turn their careers around. Hard to complain getting 1st and 2nd rounders for late 6s and 7s. It's worth the risk especially when you stock pile picks like us.
Let's see, I woke up, drank a coffee, went to work


Let's see, Baalke signed a Pro Bowl kicker (Dawson), #3 or 4 CB (Eric Wright), starting safety (Antoine Bethea (to replace Whitner)), traded for a backup QB (Gabbert) that was the #10 overall draft in the very same draft that your starting QB was picked in and whom Harbaugh loves, traded for a backup offensive lineman who was a second round pick that your coach knows better than anyone in the league and got him drafted (really).

Meanwhile, not only did not you not really give up anything (6th, 7th, hello) but you would actually get a compensatory 3rd in the future due to the Whitner signing

And, you still have 11 picks in the upcoming draft, 6 in the first 3 rounds, in what many consider is one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years

Babies, Babies, y'all be wearing gold plated diapers
  • MILFS
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Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Let's see, I woke up, drank a coffee, went to work


Let's see, Baalke signed a Pro Bowl kicker (Dawson), #3 or 4 CB (Eric Wright), starting safety (Antoine Bethea (to replace Whitner)), traded for a backup QB (Gabbert) that was the #10 overall draft in the very same draft that your starting QB was picked in and whom Harbaugh loves, traded for a backup offensive lineman who was a second round pick that your coach knows better than anyone in the league and got him drafted (really).

Meanwhile, not only did not you not really give up anything (6th, 7th, hello) but you would actually get a compensatory 3rd in the future due to the Whitner signing

And, you still have 11 picks in the upcoming draft, 6 in the first 3 rounds, in what many consider is one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years

Babies, Babies, y'all be wearing gold plated diapers

we are so sick.
  • sfout
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Originally posted by MILFS:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Let's see, I woke up, drank a coffee, went to work


Let's see, Baalke signed a Pro Bowl kicker (Dawson), #3 or 4 CB (Eric Wright), starting safety (Antoine Bethea (to replace Whitner)), traded for a backup QB (Gabbert) that was the #10 overall draft in the very same draft that your starting QB was picked in and whom Harbaugh loves, traded for a backup offensive lineman who was a second round pick that your coach knows better than anyone in the league and got him drafted (really).

Meanwhile, not only did not you not really give up anything (6th, 7th, hello) but you would actually get a compensatory 3rd in the future due to the Whitner signing

And, you still have 11 picks in the upcoming draft, 6 in the first 3 rounds, in what many consider is one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years

Babies, Babies, y'all be wearing gold plated diapers

we are so sick.

plus trading for Martin and Gabbert don't negatively impact the Compensatory Pick formula.
  • Disp
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Whitner isn't gonna get us a 3'rd round comp pick. We signed a dude for basically the same deal to replace him.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Let's see, I woke up, drank a coffee, went to work


Let's see, Baalke signed a Pro Bowl kicker (Dawson), #3 or 4 CB (Eric Wright), starting safety (Antoine Bethea (to replace Whitner)), traded for a backup QB (Gabbert) that was the #10 overall draft in the very same draft that your starting QB was picked in and whom Harbaugh loves, traded for a backup offensive lineman who was a second round pick that your coach knows better than anyone in the league and got him drafted (really).

Meanwhile, not only did not you not really give up anything (6th, 7th, hello) but you would actually get a compensatory 3rd in the future due to the Whitner signing

And, you still have 11 picks in the upcoming draft, 6 in the first 3 rounds, in what many consider is one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years

Babies, Babies, y'all be wearing gold plated diapers
The front office and coaches are working hard. Now we can go back to drafting BPA in the draft or move around to land the guys we really like.
Sometimes we get a bit short sighted, due to Trent's/Jim's talent evaluations, and like other team's homers, think our GM is the best. The Martin deal was destined to happen, because the kid still wants to play football, had a very good first yr, then fell off. The disgraceful Miami locker room ( and "Coach" didn't know)would be inconceivable in a locker room filled with quality guys like P-52, Staley, Frank, Vernon, Anquan, Justin, Navarro, to name just a few of the incredibly really good guys we have, and that is not even considering their talent. This was THE place for Martin, AND JH knows exactly what he has in this 2nd rd OT. This wasn't necessarily brilliant, but having the best coach(or close to it), the best GM, and overall the best team, sure has it's advantages. Anquan wouldn't have come here otherwise, and then, re-signed. If Martin is a top flite back up, for a 6th or 7th conditional, this is a steal. Oh, he also can play OG.

Better yet, looking at the two CBs signed for $57 mil and $52 mil...you don't see the 9ers doing that kind of thing. With the best and deepest draft in some say 10 yrs, others say 20-30 yrs, this just isn't the time to be blowing a load like that on a CB, no matter how good. I did hear the thought of one of NFL network guys that Rivas could possibly be had for a yr for $6 mil, on a one yr deal...and that is intriguing, but I doubt it. Currently TB is looking at another FA CB now, not well known, but a potential upgrade. Then in draft, I think we get a couple, one high, one in 3rd. The TB attitude is Poco a Poco, or little by little...and no $57 mil CBs.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Mar 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM ]
Pasodoc :)

And here's more evidence of that ......

Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN 28m
A year ago, Isaac Sopoaga signed with Eagles. Today, the Patriots cut him. And 49ers have moved on with Glenn Dorsey & Ian Williams at NT.
Baalke y u no sign duh-rel revis yet
Ads, much as I would have liked him for a yr at $6mil, I sure didn't want to see us pay him $12 mil for one yr. That skews and screws the beautifully worked out salary cap status based on talent/value. When you overpay one guy, next thing you know everyone else wants a big raise too next time their contract is up. Trent's job with salaries is a thing of beauty...a masterpiece. And the one way to uck-fay it up is to drop $12 mil on a Revis. This is a dying gasp for bellicheat and his 38 yr old QB. Heck it isn't close to being enough to beat Denver, where they insanely blew money. That team in 3,4, 5 yrs is going to look like the Atomic Bomb went off in it, when all these salaries bite them in the azz.

No thanks, I'll take the Baalke way, please. Incidentally, we just upgraded with Bethea, a much better pass prevention guy than Whitner. Both hit like a ton of bricks, but Bethea breaks up passes...whitner tackles the receiver after the catch. Big difference,and at .5mil/yr less than whitner signed for. As for Martin, big upgrade over Snyder. jeez he went in 2nd rd to Miami. We got him for a 7th. Jeez!.

As for gabbert, it was said best elsewhere: sign him, restructure downward, coach up and then trade him for two 3rds, or a 3rd and 4th. Plus he is there in case of calamity. And no I don't like him but still a potential upgrade.

We are going to get 3, 4, maybe 5 or 6 starters out of this draft, not the best in 10 yrs, but deepest and most quality in 20 or 30 yrs...so sez casserly, pioli, et al. And we got 10 or 11 picks to use. Bellicheat got rivas for 1 yr at $12 mil. I like Trent's and Jim's way. Poco a poco. Little by little.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ads, much as I would have liked him for a yr at $6mil, I sure didn't want to see us pay him $12 mil for one yr. That skews and screws the beautifully worked out salary cap status based on talent/value. When you overpay one guy, next thing you know everyone else wants a big raise too next time their contract is up. Trent's job with salaries is a thing of beauty...a masterpiece. And the one way to uck-fay it up is to drop $12 mil on a Revis. This is a dying gasp for bellicheat and his 38 yr old QB. Heck it isn't close to being enough to beat Denver, where they insanely blew money. That team in 3,4, 5 yrs is going to look like the Atomic Bomb went off in it, when all these salaries bite them in the azz.

No thanks, I'll take the Baalke way, please. Incidentally, we just upgraded with Bethea, a much better pass prevention guy than Whitner. Both hit like a ton of bricks, but Bethea breaks up passes...whitner tackles the receiver after the catch. Big difference,and at .5mil/yr less than whitner signed for. As for Martin, big upgrade over Snyder. jeez he went in 2nd rd to Miami. We got him for a 7th. Jeez!.

As for gabbert, it was said best elsewhere: sign him, restructure downward, coach up and then trade him for two 3rds, or a 3rd and 4th. Plus he is there in case of calamity. And no I don't like him but still a potential upgrade.

We are going to get 3, 4, maybe 5 or 6 starters out of this draft, not the best in 10 yrs, but deepest and most quality in 20 or 30 yrs...so sez casserly, pioli, et al. And we got 10 or 11 picks to use. Bellicheat got rivas for 1 yr at $12 mil. I like Trent's and Jim's way. Poco a poco. Little by little.

I can truly see that. I believe 2014 is going to set us up for years to come. And because of the way we manage our contracts and free agents, I think we are set up for a little better long term success than just about any other team out there. I see New England and Denver are in Super Bowl or bust mode, which I can understand because they have aging QBs. We seem to be building to compete for and win multiple Super Bowls.
  • sfout
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The complete title of this thread is....

"The Baalke Effect....On the 'Zone when he signs camp bodies and the sky starts falling because morons think Chris Cook is going to be starting for us"

People need to calm down on here, it is absolutely hilarious to see such overreaction and conjecture.
Originally posted by MILFS:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Let's see, I woke up, drank a coffee, went to work


Let's see, Baalke signed a Pro Bowl kicker (Dawson), #3 or 4 CB (Eric Wright), starting safety (Antoine Bethea (to replace Whitner)), traded for a backup QB (Gabbert) that was the #10 overall draft in the very same draft that your starting QB was picked in and whom Harbaugh loves, traded for a backup offensive lineman who was a second round pick that your coach knows better than anyone in the league and got him drafted (really).

Meanwhile, not only did not you not really give up anything (6th, 7th, hello) but you would actually get a compensatory 3rd in the future due to the Whitner signing

And, you still have 11 picks in the upcoming draft, 6 in the first 3 rounds, in what many consider is one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years

Babies, Babies, y'all be wearing gold plated diapers

we are so sick.


Yes, in fact, many of us are considered the major breaks with reality that appear in posts here everyday....
Originally posted by Disp:
Whitner isn't gonna get us a 3'rd round comp pick. We signed a dude for basically the same deal to replace him.

It is not based soley on those two players it is the total culmative effect. Who did we sign and who did we lose will affect the compensatory picks in 2015-thats right, it has no bearing on this years draft. So we lost Whitner, Brown, Dixon. Carlos does not count cause he was released.

Now, who did we pick up Bethea and Cook.

Anyone else I am missing from both sides of the coin?