Originally posted by cciowa:
sounds like they already looked better in one pre season game than they did all of last year
Lockette sure got down there under that punt quickly. That was an awesome special teams play.
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Aug 15, 2013 at 8:46 PM
- GNielsen
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Lockette sure got down there under that punt quickly. That was an awesome special teams play.
Aug 15, 2013 at 9:07 PM
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We still miss Costanzo and Collin Jones
Aug 16, 2013 at 7:13 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by NCommand:sounds like they already looked better in one pre season game than they did all of last year
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I think our ST will be a feared force that opponents will have to seriously game-plan for.
Coverage looks good. Dawson "has" to be better. Cox looked better than James (seems more explosive) but don't feel like we have that reliable stud back there who can take it to the house every time he touches the ball.
On coverage, yes, no doubt...a couple times D. Morris was the first down the field but couldn't wrap up (sound familiar)? Fortunately, we had others make the tackles but we certainly have some serious speed with Lockette, Morris, Osgood, Moore, Dixon, etc. I hope Cox continues to develop b/c he did actually look explosive somewhat on returns. But the team really wants Jamesto contribute there and his fumbles scare me and he doesn't look very explosive (he is decisive though and is showing more confidence).
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 16, 2013 at 7:15 AM ]
Aug 16, 2013 at 7:17 AM
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fumble Knee cost us trip to the super bowl
KR TD cost us a super bowl win
FIGURE IT OUT NAO!
KR TD cost us a super bowl win
FIGURE IT OUT NAO!
Aug 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM
- Rascal
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by cciowa:
sounds like they already looked better in one pre season game than they did all of last year
Lockette sure got down there under that punt quickly. That was an awesome special teams play.
That was a long punt as well, probably went 60 yards. No doubt Lockette has the speed. I am happy we have Osgood as well. Perish Cox to me is definitely better than James in my opinion. I was surprised with Dawson's miss, but I think is just jitters of playing for a new team that's all. Other than that, we should be good, but I will definitely miss Delanie though.
Aug 16, 2013 at 7:29 AM
- Rascal
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Originally posted by NCommand:
On coverage, yes, no doubt...a couple times D. Morris was the first down the field but couldn't wrap up (sound familiar)? Fortunately, we had others make the tackles but we certainly have some serious speed with Lockette, Morris, Osgood, Moore, Dixon, etc. I hope Cox continues to develop b/c he did actually look explosive somewhat on returns. But the team really wants Jamesto contribute there and his fumbles scare me and he doesn't look very explosive (he is decisive though and is showing more confidence).
Cox looked far more like a returner than James. I was never a fan of having James returning kicks. I want to see more of Cox in the next few games and see how he does. That is a huge gaping hole that we have failed to fill for quite a while now. Thre are just too many teams out there with personnel who can take it all the way to the house.
Aug 16, 2013 at 7:38 AM
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Originally posted by Rascal:Cox looked far more like a returner than James. I was never a fan of having James returning kicks. I want to see more of Cox in the next few games and see how he does. That is a huge gaping hole that we have failed to fill for quite a while now. Thre are just too many teams out there with personnel who can take it all the way to the house.
Ted Ginn Jr....
Aug 16, 2013 at 7:48 AM
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team would be better off having no one back to return punts
Chad Hall lol dude had 12 yards of room and calls a fair catch
next punt has a dude in his grill and tries to return
Chad Hall lol dude had 12 yards of room and calls a fair catch
next punt has a dude in his grill and tries to return
Aug 16, 2013 at 8:10 AM
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Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Cox looked far more like a returner than James. I was never a fan of having James returning kicks. I want to see more of Cox in the next few games and see how he does. That is a huge gaping hole that we have failed to fill for quite a while now. Thre are just too many teams out there with personnel who can take it all the way to the house.
Ted Ginn Jr....
Ted Ginn ? He tried, he had some raw speed, but also made some mistakes. Frankly, I have never liked anyone we fielded for this position, be it Ginn, Williams or James. But, to be fair, it really takes a special breed to be able to return kicks and to do it well. Unless Cox can become that guy, as it stands we just don't have that guy who can take it all the way to the house. Do you remember when was the last time we had a kick return TD ? I honestly cannot remember.
Aug 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM
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Originally posted by SoCold:
team would be better off having no one back to return punts
Chad Hall lol dude had 12 yards of room and calls a fair catch
next punt has a dude in his grill and tries to return
Did he have 12 yards of room ? Oh man.
Who else can do it ? Perish Cox is trying now. Dixon doesn't look all that promising. What about CJ Spillman ? What about Lockette ? Marlon Moore said he has done it before, but then again if he is going to be our No. 2 or 3 WR, we better not risk any injuries there.
Aug 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Ted Ginn ? He tried, he had some raw speed, but also made some mistakes. Frankly, I have never liked anyone we fielded for this position, be it Ginn, Williams or James. But, to be fair, it really takes a special breed to be able to return kicks and to do it well. Unless Cox can become that guy, as it stands we just don't have that guy who can take it all the way to the house. Do you remember when was the last time we had a kick return TD ? I honestly cannot remember.
The last time a 49er returned a kick was ironically ted ginn jr. He returned a punt and a kick in the same game against the seahawks in 2011.
Aug 16, 2013 at 9:53 AM
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Originally posted by sackid12:
The last time a 49er returned a kick was ironically ted ginn jr. He returned a punt and a kick in the same game against the seahawks in 2011.
Thanks. I totally couldn't remember that. I am going to go on youtube to refresh my memory.
Aug 16, 2013 at 9:58 AM
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I've never ever seen Niners special team played as good as 2011. Don't think we will ever have that again in another 10 years. It was perfect with Andy Lee, Akers, that Tony Montana group, and Ginn.
Aug 16, 2013 at 10:02 AM
- thl408
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How would you guys rank the order of importance of the ST units?
1. Field goal unit - not getting a TD is a bummer. Missing the FG on top of it sucks.
2. Punt coverage unit: bad enough to give up possession, but gotta make it at least a 40-50 yard net punt.
3. Kickoff return coverage
4. Punt return: secure the possession!
5. Kickoff return
6. Field goal defensive unit
imo
1. Field goal unit - not getting a TD is a bummer. Missing the FG on top of it sucks.
2. Punt coverage unit: bad enough to give up possession, but gotta make it at least a 40-50 yard net punt.
3. Kickoff return coverage
4. Punt return: secure the possession!
5. Kickoff return
6. Field goal defensive unit
imo
Aug 16, 2013 at 10:03 AM
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Cox impressed as a returner.
Osgood can really cover [based on the one game saw]
I think our ST will be really special this season.
Osgood can really cover [based on the one game saw]
I think our ST will be really special this season.