49ers interested in trading for Revis (link provided)

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Sure draft picks... Look at it this way. Were a number 1 cb short of a superbowl win. Would you A. Trade a first for one year of revis. Or B trade a few more picks for a prospect cb that could be a number 1 for decades on a defense that needs one... I rather trade the extra picks even though he's top 10, money isn't going to be the same revis is going to want another 100 million dollar deal and this kid with the rookie cap rules wouldn't get it. And come on it's a bama player which means pro ready this is like getting julio jones making a good offense amazing. you're say you have the picks to get a top player to make the defense from great to amazing and you don't want him... We have a hugh amount of picks we need a number 1 cb on defense carlos is getting old, revis isn't that young either. this kid can match up well with big guys and has the speed and hips for the little ones too...Sure those guys are good, but none will be as good as him. We don't need that much help we can give away the next years first and this years and still not blink a eye Pick 31 this year and Pick 32 next year for a player that's top 10. No way we get that kind of talent at those picks combined...

Says who? I never thought the secondary was the 49ers problem, the secondary played well enough most of the season up until the point that Justin Smith got injured, after he got injured, the pass rush went adios and all of a sudden the secondary was getting toasted because quarterbacks had forever and a day to throw the ball. What this team was missing in the playoffs was consistent pressure on the QB's, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco aren't the most mobile quarterbacks but they had forever to throw the ball at times. Add depth on the DL, strength the pass rush and the secondary will be just fine. They can stand to add another cornerback and a safety to develop as future starters, but the most urgent needs are on the DL, namely:


A- A true NT that consistently requires multiple blockers and can hold up against the run. Soap failed at both this year.

B. A quality rotational 3-4 DE, preferably 2 of them that can regularly rotate in on the DL, not just once in a blue moon. Hopefully one of them can be a young player who can be developed as Justin Smith's eventual replacement, a guy such as Datone Jones of UCLA.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Sure draft picks... Look at it this way. Were a number 1 cb short of a superbowl win. Would you A. Trade a first for one year of revis. Or B trade a few more picks for a prospect cb that could be a number 1 for decades on a defense that needs one... I rather trade the extra picks even though he's top 10, money isn't going to be the same revis is going to want another 100 million dollar deal and this kid with the rookie cap rules wouldn't get it. And come on it's a bama player which means pro ready this is like getting julio jones making a good offense amazing. you're say you have the picks to get a top player to make the defense from great to amazing and you don't want him... We have a hugh amount of picks we need a number 1 cb on defense carlos is getting old, revis isn't that young either. this kid can match up well with big guys and has the speed and hips for the little ones too...Sure those guys are good, but none will be as good as him. We don't need that much help we can give away the next years first and this years and still not blink a eye Pick 31 this year and Pick 32 next year for a player that's top 10. No way we get that kind of talent at those picks combined...

Says who? I never thought the secondary was the 49ers problem, the secondary played well enough most of the season up until the point that Justin Smith got injured, after he got injured, the pass rush went adios and all of a sudden the secondary was getting toasted because quarterbacks had forever and a day to throw the ball. What this team was missing in the playoffs was consistent pressure on the QB's, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco aren't the most mobile quarterbacks but they had forever to throw the ball at times. Add depth on the DL, strength the pass rush and the secondary will be just fine.

You act like draft picks are for sure things, we haven't drafted a great DL since BYoung

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You act like draft picks are for sure things, we haven't drafted a great DL since BYoung

Why bother drafting Kaepernick, we haven't drafted a great QB since Joe Montana.

Why bother drafting Aldon Smith, we haven't drafted a great OLB in forever.

Why bother drafting Frank Gore, this team hasn't drafted a great RB since Ricky Watters.

Why bother drafting Mike Iupati, this team hasn't drafted.......



and on and on. Your excuse is weak. Great teams build through the draft, period.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

You act like draft picks are for sure things, we haven't drafted a great DL since BYoung

Why bother drafting Kaepernick, we haven't drafted a great QB since Joe Montana.

Why bother drafting Aldon Smith, we haven't drafted a great OLB in forever.

Why bother drafting Frank Gore, this team hasn't drafted a great RB since Ricky Watters.

Why bother drafting Mike Iupati, this team hasn't drafted.......



and on and on. Your excuse is weak. Great teams build through the draft, period.

Lol, really those guys are great?

Kaep has the most potential to be great

Aldon needs another dominant player

Gore needs a ring to make the HOF

iupati still needs work

Your excuse to draft the positions like DL and secondary has been a curse for this team....but to you ..they grow on trees, lol

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Sure draft picks... Look at it this way. Were a number 1 cb short of a superbowl win. Would you A. Trade a first for one year of revis. Or B trade a few more picks for a prospect cb that could be a number 1 for decades on a defense that needs one... I rather trade the extra picks even though he's top 10, money isn't going to be the same revis is going to want another 100 million dollar deal and this kid with the rookie cap rules wouldn't get it. And come on it's a bama player which means pro ready this is like getting julio jones making a good offense amazing. you're say you have the picks to get a top player to make the defense from great to amazing and you don't want him... We have a hugh amount of picks we need a number 1 cb on defense carlos is getting old, revis isn't that young either. this kid can match up well with big guys and has the speed and hips for the little ones too...Sure those guys are good, but none will be as good as him. We don't need that much help we can give away the next years first and this years and still not blink a eye Pick 31 this year and Pick 32 next year for a player that's top 10. No way we get that kind of talent at those picks combined...

Who's the better player? Nnamdi Asomugha or Darrelle Revis?
Revis you say? Why is that? Could it because of the year Asomugha had after signing a huge contract with the Eagles ("The Dream Team")?

Are we going to create "The Dream Defense"? Thank God for the Eagles. They made this mistake already, to demonstrate to all the other teams exactly what NOT to do when putting together a roster.

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Sure draft picks... Look at it this way. Were a number 1 cb short of a superbowl win. Would you A. Trade a first for one year of revis. Or B trade a few more picks for a prospect cb that could be a number 1 for decades on a defense that needs one... I rather trade the extra picks even though he's top 10, money isn't going to be the same revis is going to want another 100 million dollar deal and this kid with the rookie cap rules wouldn't get it. And come on it's a bama player which means pro ready this is like getting julio jones making a good offense amazing. you're say you have the picks to get a top player to make the defense from great to amazing and you don't want him... We have a hugh amount of picks we need a number 1 cb on defense carlos is getting old, revis isn't that young either. this kid can match up well with big guys and has the speed and hips for the little ones too...Sure those guys are good, but none will be as good as him. We don't need that much help we can give away the next years first and this years and still not blink a eye Pick 31 this year and Pick 32 next year for a player that's top 10. No way we get that kind of talent at those picks combined...

Who's the better player? Nnamdi Asomugha or Darrelle Revis?
Revis you say? Why is that? Could it because of the year Asomugha had after signing a huge contract with the Eagles ("The Dream Team")?

Are we going to create "The Dream Defense"? Thank God for the Eagles. They made this mistake already, to demonstrate to all the other teams exactly what NOT to do when putting together a roster.

Comparing the eagles defense and staff to ours isn't fair

Originally posted by BrianGO:
Who's the better player? Nnamdi Asomugha or Darrelle Revis?
Revis you say? Why is that? Could it because of the year Asomugha had after signing a huge contract with the Eagles ("The Dream Team")?

Are we going to create "The Dream Defense"? Thank God for the Eagles. They made this mistake already, to demonstrate to all the other teams exactly what NOT to do when putting together a roster.

DING DING DING


In before "we're not the Eagles." Great teams build through the draft, wannabe's build through free agency.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by BrianGO:
Who's the better player? Nnamdi Asomugha or Darrelle Revis?
Revis you say? Why is that? Could it because of the year Asomugha had after signing a huge contract with the Eagles ("The Dream Team")?

Are we going to create "The Dream Defense"? Thank God for the Eagles. They made this mistake already, to demonstrate to all the other teams exactly what NOT to do when putting together a roster.

DING DING DING


In before "we're not the Eagles." Great teams build through the draft, wannabe's build through free agency.

i disagree. great teams don't go get 3 players in the same position when all 3 are best suited in different schemes. if we go out and get nnamdi and play him in zone then you can compare us to the eagles.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Sure draft picks... Look at it this way. Were a number 1 cb short of a superbowl win. Would you A. Trade a first for one year of revis. Or B trade a few more picks for a prospect cb that could be a number 1 for decades on a defense that needs one... I rather trade the extra picks even though he's top 10, money isn't going to be the same revis is going to want another 100 million dollar deal and this kid with the rookie cap rules wouldn't get it. And come on it's a bama player which means pro ready this is like getting julio jones making a good offense amazing. you're say you have the picks to get a top player to make the defense from great to amazing and you don't want him... We have a hugh amount of picks we need a number 1 cb on defense carlos is getting old, revis isn't that young either. this kid can match up well with big guys and has the speed and hips for the little ones too...Sure those guys are good, but none will be as good as him. We don't need that much help we can give away the next years first and this years and still not blink a eye Pick 31 this year and Pick 32 next year for a player that's top 10. No way we get that kind of talent at those picks combined...

Who's the better player? Nnamdi Asomugha or Darrelle Revis?
Revis you say? Why is that? Could it because of the year Asomugha had after signing a huge contract with the Eagles ("The Dream Team")?

Are we going to create "The Dream Defense"? Thank God for the Eagles. They made this mistake already, to demonstrate to all the other teams exactly what NOT to do when putting together a roster.

Comparing the eagles defense and staff to ours isn't fair

The situation is nearly identical.

Their quarterback had a breakout year. Their defense was good and all they had to do to make it great was sign a great cornerback. They not only got a great cornerback but they got a very good one on the other side. They already had a good pass rush. They were supposed to be the "Dream Team" because they had all the talent in the world.

I certainly don't compare their staff to ours. Our staff is far superior. Baalke is never going to break the bank for Revis. If Revis wants to come here on a reasonable 1 year, 7-8 million dollar "Let's take a shot at the Super Bowl" tryout to showcase his ability for the league, fine. Otherwise, no. Cornerbacks are way too overvalued in the NFL right now. Against elite quarterbacks, you win with the pass rush, not with your coverage.

Originally posted by BrianGO:
The situation is nearly identical.

Their quarterback had a breakout year. Their defense was good and all they had to do to make it great was sign a great cornerback. They not only got a great cornerback but they got a very good one on the other side. They already had a good pass rush. They were supposed to be the "Dream Team" because they had all the talent in the world.

I certainly don't compare their staff to ours. Our staff is far superior. Baalke is never going to break the bank for Revis. If Revis wants to come here on a reasonable 1 year, 7-8 million dollar "Let's take a shot at the Super Bowl" tryout to showcase his ability for the league, fine. Otherwise, no. Cornerbacks are way too overvalued in the NFL right now. Against elite quarterbacks, you win with the pass rush, not with your coverage.

Giants won 2 Superbowl's with crappy secondaries. Even Revis has been toasted and made to look silly....it all comes down to a consistent pass rush, based on paying salaries, in the NFL you can have a great defensive line or you can have a great secondary, but ultimately its basically impossible to have both due to cap limitations. I'll take the great defensive line every single time.

You can have the best secondary in the world, Matt Ryan still lit up Seattle, Tom Brady still had a good game against them as well, in Seattle.....you slow down elite quarterbacks by getting pressure in their face and taking them to the ground, that is where the 49ers focus should be this offseason.

i wonder if revis would be down to just not be a greedy douche for one year to win the superbowl, prove hes healthy and then bounce for a huge contract. i hope we have earned the status the pats had as the marquee destination for FAs who wanna win.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

The situation is nearly identical.

Their quarterback had a breakout year. Their defense was good and all they had to do to make it great was sign a great cornerback. They not only got a great cornerback but they got a very good one on the other side. They already had a good pass rush. They were supposed to be the "Dream Team" because they had all the talent in the world.

I certainly don't compare their staff to ours. Our staff is far superior. Baalke is never going to break the bank for Revis. If Revis wants to come here on a reasonable 1 year, 7-8 million dollar "Let's take a shot at the Super Bowl" tryout to showcase his ability for the league, fine. Otherwise, no. Cornerbacks are way too overvalued in the NFL right now. Against elite quarterbacks, you win with the pass rush, not with your coverage.

Giants won 2 Superbowl's with crappy secondaries. Even Revis has been toasted and made to look silly....it all comes down to a consistent pass rush, based on paying salaries, in the NFL you can have a great defensive line or you can have a great secondary, but ultimately its basically impossible to have both due to cap limitations. I'll take the great defensive line every single time.

You can have the best secondary in the world, Matt Ryan still lit up Seattle, Tom Brady still had a good game against them as well, in Seattle.....you slow down elite quarterbacks by getting pressure in their face and taking them to the ground, that is where the 49ers focus should be this offseason.

Everyone would take that, what do you do when the DL fails ?, like what happened to us

We can still draft a CB and trade for revis

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Everyone would take that, what do you do when the DL fails ?, like what happened to us

We can still draft a CB and trade for revis

Draft DL...then draft DL....then look at the secondary and cornerback, keep the picks and upgrade the roster with inexpensive young players, keep building towards the future, not some overpriced prick that likes to hold out every single offseason.


Give Revis big money and you can kiss goodbye the sort of situation where the 49ers get a guy to give a "hometown discount" like with what happened with Bowman. Tell Crabtree or Aldon to take less than market value when you just handed a big paycheck to a spoiled baby of a player. Good luck with that.

How bout we grab both Revis and Nnamdi

Originally posted by JerryRice1848:
How bout we grab both Revis and Nnamdi

You forgot Ed Reed too.