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Niners fan in Seattle

Originally posted by GNielsen:
It's all a matter of opinion, but I always found the Seattle area to be very beautiful and Seattle to be a nice city. Too bad about Seahawks fans, though. They do make it hard to like the city.

Yeah, I like it here too. At least the area itself. Sunday Ticket makes it easy though. Maybe when I retire in 10 years I will open up a Niner bar whether I lose money or not. Them I could require that no Seahawk gear is allowed and sell half-price beer to those in Niner jerseys.

I think I am on to something!
Originally posted by Rathmanator:
Oh man... The drive home from the last game was pretty bad, mostly the walk to the truck. My kids are Seahawk fans and they were begging me to take off my Jersey. Just a lot of yelling and Harmless "SEAHAWKS" screams. It is worth it for those few times the Niners do win here though. The 2011 game went to the end so the fans all piled out at the same time. They were pretty quiet that day but you could hear the occasional NINERS! In the distance. It was great, so don't let us down, you gotta go to the games, we need ya!

Thanks for the info. I wanna see the 49ers play next year and the only way to do that is at qwest when they visit. I was wondering what the level of hostility was.
Originally posted by BrodieToKwalick:
Greetings Lifelong Niner Fans!
This is my first post, many year lurker. I have lived my entire 53 years here in south Seattle. There were no Seehocks when I was a youngun'. My family knew the Morabitos, the old 49er owners, so I followed them as my family did. I remember sitting in`my room alone every Sunday, listening to local KVI AM...Thats right, the 9ers were our "local" team then. Lon Simmons proclaiming, as he always did the last game of the year, how the Forty Niners would win this last meaningless game and look to next season. Having the dallas cowboys (no caps form them!) ruin my Christmas in the early 70s. When our local team came to the Kingdome in 1976, I just could not make the switch. I bleed red and gold. Period.

Ah, yes, the glory days..how I gloated to my Seehock co-workers, relatives...

Then there was 2003, 04, 05...e-gad. They were going to the Super Bowl, crushing us by forty points, We the laughing stock of the NFL. I still proudly wore my Steve Young jersey everwhere, hearing the cat calls, the mocking from the Seehock fans. Hell living deep in enemy territory. Seven years ago I went on the air on our local sports radio station, KJR 950. You wanna talk about being surrounded...

I have never been prouder of my Forty NIners than today. When they were introduced at the Super Bowl, the only time I've been more emotional (18 years,man!) is when my son was born. I can not will not EVER even acknowledge the team down the street, and by the way when driving to my radio show every Saturday morning I flip off Century Dink field along I-5.

The rivalry up here, in the eyes of Seehock fans, is beyond belief annoying. The talk on our station is such homer oriented they have already won the NFC West the next five seasons. But we know better. From my oversized 49er stickers on the truck windows to my sons new CK7 jersey, belive me when I say the best @#%ing team in the NFL is about 680 miles south of my house, here in middle of out greatest enemie's territory.,

WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US......

Bill H.

Love the post! I am also a Niners fan since 1970. Saw Brodie to Kwalick against the Rams at Kezar Stadium when I was six. I have Seattle as part of my sales territory and listen to KJR when I'm in town. Funny to listen to the other side of things when I am there. Since the Sonics left, the Mariners suck, and the Huskies have been mediocre at best, the Seahawks fans have nothing else to distract them. Too bad they think they are the better team, even though they weren't good enough for 41 seconds. I love wearing my Niners gear when I am in town. Can't wait to take them on again next year.

Go Niners!
Originally posted by BrodieToKwalick:
Greetings Lifelong Niner Fans!
This is my first post, many year lurker. I have lived my entire 53 years here in south Seattle. There were no Seehocks when I was a youngun'. My family knew the Morabitos, the old 49er owners, so I followed them as my family did. I remember sitting in`my room alone every Sunday, listening to local KVI AM...Thats right, the 9ers were our "local" team then. Lon Simmons proclaiming, as he always did the last game of the year, how the Forty Niners would win this last meaningless game and look to next season. Having the dallas cowboys (no caps form them!) ruin my Christmas in the early 70s. When our local team came to the Kingdome in 1976, I just could not make the switch. I bleed red and gold. Period.

Ah, yes, the glory days..how I gloated to my Seehock co-workers, relatives...

Then there was 2003, 04, 05...e-gad. They were going to the Super Bowl, crushing us by forty points, We the laughing stock of the NFL. I still proudly wore my Steve Young jersey everwhere, hearing the cat calls, the mocking from the Seehock fans. Hell living deep in enemy territory. Seven years ago I went on the air on our local sports radio station, KJR 950. You wanna talk about being surrounded...

I have never been prouder of my Forty NIners than today. When they were introduced at the Super Bowl, the only time I've been more emotional (18 years,man!) is when my son was born. I can not will not EVER even acknowledge the team down the street, and by the way when driving to my radio show every Saturday morning I flip off Century Dink field along I-5.

The rivalry up here, in the eyes of Seehock fans, is beyond belief annoying. The talk on our station is such homer oriented they have already won the NFC West the next five seasons. But we know better. From my oversized 49er stickers on the truck windows to my sons new CK7 jersey, belive me when I say the best @#%ing team in the NFL is about 680 miles south of my house, here in middle of out greatest enemie's territory.,

WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US......

Bill H.

This in a nutshell! Thanks for sharing. I was born and raised in Seattle (moved to SD 12 years ago) and as a result, became a Niner fan. THAT'S how poor their 12th man was. It never existed. Not until the tech-industry, Starbucks and Boeing. So now, all of these 12th man fans? Every single one of them save for 5-10% of the total population are transplants. And that 5-10% is mostly my family/friends up there. You can always tell a real native Hawk fan by how humble they are (we've seen a few on this board as well - good ppl). They know their organization is cursed. They know that no matter how close they'll get, they will never win it. Ever. Ever. Keep in mind that no professional top sports team has won anything since '79 when they were known as the Super Sonics. Even they moved from Seattle and instantly become good...the curse was lifted.

That said, the REAL 12th man fans are Sounder (soccer) fans. Soccer is and always has been huge up there. As to other sports such as football, baseball, basketball, etc. they just aren't a "sports town" and they all seem to suffer from a type of short-man's-complex - feeling like they are lost in their little corner of the galaxy. Most are very uneducated about sports in general and with no history to draw from, seem to be "blind homers" as well.

I guess, with the 12th man, you have to start somewhere...but don't confuse these transplant fans with being "real fans." 2 seconds into a conversation with a real Hawk fan and you'll know...you'll know (good peeps)!

Go Niners and thank you Seattle for my love of the Niners...what a ride it's been!
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM ]
Originally posted by spoiledNconfused:
Hello all--

Just moved to Seattle, and was wondering if there are any 'Niner bars' in this city? Probs a longshot, I know.

Thanks-

yeah his name is Savage49
Originally posted by 49erDawgFan:
There are no 49er bars in Seattle. I'm a big fan (from SF, finishing at UW) and be ready. I wear my Bruce Miller jersey loud and proud and get a lot of hate. For example, TSA harassed me before the NFC Championship and I almost did not make my flight. Get used to hearing, "Seattle is going to win the Superbowl this year because Russell Wilson is the best QB in the NFL." I usually counter with, "5 rings vs. 0 rings."

I got the same s**t going through security at sea tac they knocked my hat out of the tray on the floor picked it up and yelled around they were going to throw it away because no one with pride would ever wear san fran gear. I took it from his hands explained to him the tsa guidelines of harassment, explained making it to the super bowl is a better accomplishment then beating the redskins in a wild card game and made my way to my flight back home to ak.
Originally posted by Rathmanator:
I think it depends on the fan, there are obviously loads of Rabid Seahawk fans here, but the ones I actually talk to believe the Niners are very good. They know Kaep is good too. After the Chicago game when Kaep tore it up, at least the ones I work with were very concerned and they were actually hoping Smith would come back.

Wilson is not going to let his height hurt his game, that kid is unique, for sure. I must have watched 8 Seajack games in full, with hopes he would play badly and lose. It was hard not to admire him, but wearing Seahawk blue makes it easier for me to hope that he fails. He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that fails. I would have no problem watching him in Niner Gold for sure, but Kaep gives us those same things and more. He hasn't played as many games as Wilson either, so I expect his poise to increase next year, especially after the Super Bowl. Their fans are convinced that they are going to win the division next year though. Who knows? Maybe they do, but not if SF stays healthy and hungry. I will keep my mouth shut though and let the Niners do the talking in 2013.
I guess I'm basing my opinion on what I see on Seahawk boards because we don't get up there very often anymore like we used to. The Seahawk.net conversations are unbelievable. On the subject of Wilson not letting his height affect his game, what I'm saying is that he may not have any choice. I've pointed this out before, but there is a very legitimate reason why you hardly ever see sub-six foot guys consistently successful at the QB position in the NFL anymore. Now don't get me wrong. I think Russell Wilson is lights-out good, but I also think there is a possibility he will suffer a sophomore slump and here's why.

Again, I point to the greatest short player in the history of the NFL, Fran Tarkenton, who was famous for the long "keystone cops" style scrambles that Wilson pulls off on a weekly basis. Back in Tarkenton's day, the linemen were all in the six-foot to six-two range. The only team that consistently gave Tarkenton fits was the 70's Steelers. The Steelers were unique in their day because they had a very tall front. They had a 6'4" and a 6'6" defensive tackle and some tall OLB's rushing the passer. The way they played Tarkenton was to always try to contain the outside and force him to stay in the pocket. Then they did two things - they stayed up while trying to collapse the pocket and they stunted an ILB through either of the two inner holes. It often drove Tarkenton crazy and out of his game. But again, most teams didn't have fronts like the Steelers and Tarkenton is in the Hall of Fame.

The problem that may develop for Wilson is that ALL NFL teams have linemen that tall these days. That's not only why you usually don't see shorter guys at the position, but it's also the key to how defenses learn to play shorter, quicker guys. My other point is that nobody saw Wilson coming last year. Everyone expected the standard taller pocket guy like Flynn. Now, everyone is going to be studying the way Wilson darts around behind the line of scrimmage and everyone will be scheming to take advantage of what seems to be his only disadvantage - his height. Honestly, I hate to be "that guy" who keeps pointing to something like that because he seems like an awesome young player to me and he's obviously real good and it's always fun to see someone overcome the odds. But, I can't help thinking that the Niners and everyone else will use the Steelers approach on Wilson. And when I read rumors that the Niners are interested in Margus Hunt, a 6'8" defensive end as a possible third round pick, it just reinforces my suspicions.
Niners fan *IN Seattle. oops
Originally posted by GNielsen:

The problem that may develop for Wilson is that ALL NFL teams have linemen that tall these days. That's not only why you usually don't see shorter guys at the position, but it's also the key to how defenses learn to play shorter, quicker guys. My other point is that nobody saw Wilson coming last year. Everyone expected the standard taller pocket guy like Flynn. Now, everyone is going to be studying the way Wilson darts around behind the line of scrimmage and everyone will be scheming to take advantage of what seems to be his only disadvantage - his height. Honestly, I hate to be "that guy" who keeps pointing to something like that because he seems like an awesome young player to me and he's obviously real good and it's always fun to see someone overcome the odds. But, I can't help thinking that the Niners and everyone else will use the Steelers approach on Wilson. And when I read rumors that the Niners are interested in Margus Hunt, a 6'8" defensive end as a possible third round pick, it just reinforces my suspicions.

I was reading somewhere he would have a hard time developing as a pocket passer, because he is too short to see down field well. I hope that is true. Hehe. I mean you can't
be scrambling all the time your whole career due to durability. There are definitely concerns about his longevity.
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by 49erDawgFan:
There are no 49er bars in Seattle. I'm a big fan (from SF, finishing at UW) and be ready. I wear my Bruce Miller jersey loud and proud and get a lot of hate. For example, TSA harassed me before the NFC Championship and I almost did not make my flight. Get used to hearing, "Seattle is going to win the Superbowl this year because Russell Wilson is the best QB in the NFL." I usually counter with, "5 rings vs. 0 rings."

I got the same s**t going through security at sea tac they knocked my hat out of the tray on the floor picked it up and yelled around they were going to throw it away because no one with pride would ever wear san fran gear. I took it from his hands explained to him the tsa guidelines of harassment, explained making it to the super bowl is a better accomplishment then beating the redskins in a wild card game and made my way to my flight back home to ak.

LOL! I got the same crap for the NFC Championship. Not only did I get the stare down, I got "randomly selected" for a pat down and bag check, and then the "Who's got it better than us? the FALCONS!!!" chants...didn't hear shyt when I walked through the airport getting back
Originally posted by Rathmanator:
Oh man... The drive home from the last game was pretty bad, mostly the walk to the truck. My kids are Seahawk fans and they were begging me to take off my Jersey. Just a lot of yelling and Harmless "SEAHAWKS" screams. It is worth it for those few times the Niners do win here though. The 2011 game went to the end so the fans all piled out at the same time. They were pretty quiet that day but you could hear the occasional NINERS! In the distance. It was great, so don't let us down, you gotta go to the games, we need ya!

It's never to late to put them up for adoption.
[ Edited by TheGoldDiggerrrr on Feb 25, 2013 at 12:05 PM ]
Originally posted by Crazy49er1313:
LOL! I got the same crap for the NFC Championship. Not only did I get the stare down, I got "randomly selected" for a pat down and bag check, and then the "Who's got it better than us? the FALCONS!!!" chants...didn't hear shyt when I walked through the airport getting back

Yeah i went through there two weeks after the super bowl. They still talk s**t like they were the super bowl champs though.
Welcome to the "club". There's a group of 6 of us that are diehard 49er faithful up in Bellingham (about1 hour 45 minutes north) that watch all of the games with lots of laughs and lots of tears. All I can say, without having read the whole thread is to look around... there are a lot of Niners fans in WA.
That city sucks man I would hate to live there. When I was there I spent a week prior to a 9ers road game. It rained always and there was nothing to f**king do. My thoughts go out to your family. Plus dealing with Seahawks fans on a daily basis must be a true living hell. I feel for you bro, fight the good fight.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by Rathmanator:
I think it depends on the fan, there are obviously loads of Rabid Seahawk fans here, but the ones I actually talk to believe the Niners are very good. They know Kaep is good too. After the Chicago game when Kaep tore it up, at least the ones I work with were very concerned and they were actually hoping Smith would come back.

Wilson is not going to let his height hurt his game, that kid is unique, for sure. I must have watched 8 Seajack games in full, with hopes he would play badly and lose. It was hard not to admire him, but wearing Seahawk blue makes it easier for me to hope that he fails. He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that fails. I would have no problem watching him in Niner Gold for sure, but Kaep gives us those same things and more. He hasn't played as many games as Wilson either, so I expect his poise to increase next year, especially after the Super Bowl. Their fans are convinced that they are going to win the division next year though. Who knows? Maybe they do, but not if SF stays healthy and hungry. I will keep my mouth shut though and let the Niners do the talking in 2013.
I guess I'm basing my opinion on what I see on Seahawk boards because we don't get up there very often anymore like we used to. The Seahawk.net conversations are unbelievable. On the subject of Wilson not letting his height affect his game, what I'm saying is that he may not have any choice. I've pointed this out before, but there is a very legitimate reason why you hardly ever see sub-six foot guys consistently successful at the QB position in the NFL anymore. Now don't get me wrong. I think Russell Wilson is lights-out good, but I also think there is a possibility he will suffer a sophomore slump and here's why.

Again, I point to the greatest short player in the history of the NFL, Fran Tarkenton, who was famous for the long "keystone cops" style scrambles that Wilson pulls off on a weekly basis. Back in Tarkenton's day, the linemen were all in the six-foot to six-two range. The only team that consistently gave Tarkenton fits was the 70's Steelers. The Steelers were unique in their day because they had a very tall front. They had a 6'4" and a 6'6" defensive tackle and some tall OLB's rushing the passer. The way they played Tarkenton was to always try to contain the outside and force him to stay in the pocket. Then they did two things - they stayed up while trying to collapse the pocket and they stunted an ILB through either of the two inner holes. It often drove Tarkenton crazy and out of his game. But again, most teams didn't have fronts like the Steelers and Tarkenton is in the Hall of Fame.

The problem that may develop for Wilson is that ALL NFL teams have linemen that tall these days. That's not only why you usually don't see shorter guys at the position, but it's also the key to how defenses learn to play shorter, quicker guys. My other point is that nobody saw Wilson coming last year. Everyone expected the standard taller pocket guy like Flynn. Now, everyone is going to be studying the way Wilson darts around behind the line of scrimmage and everyone will be scheming to take advantage of what seems to be his only disadvantage - his height. Honestly, I hate to be "that guy" who keeps pointing to something like that because he seems like an awesome young player to me and he's obviously real good and it's always fun to see someone overcome the odds. But, I can't help thinking that the Niners and everyone else will use the Steelers approach on Wilson. And when I read rumors that the Niners are interested in Margus Hunt, a 6'8" defensive end as a possible third round pick, it just reinforces my suspicions.

So why haven't NFL teams used this approach for Brees who's only 6'0?