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NaVorro Bowman is THE MAN!

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

Are you high?? Think about it this way, if Kuechly were on the Niners he wouldn't even start!

Good perspective.
And then you wonder about East Coast bias. Perhaps he should have been in the top 5, but number 1? The NFC West dominated in Defense and some dude no one bothered to consider from back East wins. I won't even get into the JJ Watt thing, we will just say Texas has a coastline too.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
That's why Niners need to win Rings. Strahan gets into the Hall over Haley, what a joke

haley might be the s**ttiest human being on the planet tho, that could rub some people the wrong way lol. strahan is an ass kisser and an east coaster so he definitely has the leg up on haley with the media

Player against player Haley>Strahan and it's not even close.

And Eddie D>every other NFL owner ever. I f@Qen hate popularity contests.

Other owners hate Eddie DeBartolo because he spent tons of cash on players and lavish events and parties. While others were guarding their bank accounts like Fort Knox, Eddie was going for the win and the esprit of associating with the players whom he loved. The money was of little consequence to him. Their real estate development business was flying and was cash rich.

He changed the way owners had to play the game. The rest of the owners felt this was going to result in a spending spree where only the biggest media centers could survive so they brought on the salary cap. This made the financial game much more difficult and the others hated DeBartolo even more than they did for just winning all those championships. All of this led to even more East Coast/West Coast bias than there already was.

I doubt he will ever be in the HOF for those reasons. Us fans loved him for putting winning teams on the field for our enjoyment but the rest of the league still harbors a great deal of resentment against him. The gambling indictment was used as a tool to express their dislike and will always be an albatross around his neck.

Haley suffers from much the same problem. The media made his character issues into Mt Everest and that, added to all the other dislike for SF has become an excuse to keep him out.

I am not a big conspiracy guy but I believe that same bias is why Bowman did not get a single vote for DPOY. No honest assessment of his play this year would leave him without any consideration. NONE!
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

Actually PFF ranks Willis (still!!) as the best MLB in football. Bowman may have had a higher overall rating due to his effectiveness as a pass rusher.

But they consensus is Willis is still all around best.

Keuchly did not make the top 5 I believe
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

I agree he is the best but it IS close.

Willis had an off year this year, mostly due to injury. He was not his usual self. Bowman, OTOH, had another great year and should have been co-DPOY, IMO.
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

Make a case. The blanket statement followed by "and it's not even close" eliminates any and all credibility.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

I agree he is the best but it IS close.

Willis had an off year this year, mostly due to injury. He was not his usual self. Bowman, OTOH, had another great year and should have been co-DPOY, IMO.

Teams have learned stay awaay from willis. Then they have to deal with bowman. But Willis is the one they are avoiding because he brings the pain and they know it. Watch some of our int returns. O-Linemen don't even try to engage willis. He will drop the boom.
with our crazy killing LB corps we are just a few secondary picks away from being top killer def of all time.
Originally posted by Constantine:
with our crazy killing LB corps we are just a few secondary picks away from being top killer def of all time.

Hahah that's the plan
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

Make a case. The blanket statement followed by "and it's not even close" eliminates any and all credibility.

So does the handle 'Pumpernickel'
https://twitter.com/CamInman/status/430729035518181376

@CamInman Looks like #49ers LB NaVorro Bowman is having knee surgery today, 2 weeks after gruesome twist http://instagram.com/p/j_9nOcmXqZ/




Get well soon Bow!!!
Yea get well soon
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Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by Pumpernickel:
Luke is the best MLB in the NFL and its not even close.

Make a case. The blanket statement followed by "and it's not even close" eliminates any and all credibility.

Willis and Bowman also have to deal with the each other.Kinda hard to get tackles when Willis is right there all the time.Luke is all alone
[ Edited by 9er2k on Feb 4, 2014 at 8:17 AM ]
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Get well, Bow.
Get well soon!