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Dr Jekyll & Mr. Hyde: The 30 best coached minutes in 49er history....followed by...

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Originally posted by cciowa:
did not understand anything about playcalling in the second half and could not figure out why we stopped attacking on defense

the play calling all year by roman has been wildly inconsistant and frustrating to watch.
point taken, but Jim Harbaugh still outcoached Bill Belichick yesterday
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
point taken, but Jim Harbaugh still outcoached Bill Belichick yesterday

BB had some words with JH during the hand shake..BB brought JH close and whispered something is JH ear..looked kinda weird and awesome...BB usually doesn't do that to other coaches
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
point taken, but Jim Harbaugh still outcoached Bill Belichick yesterday

BB had some words with JH during the hand shake..BB brought JH close and whispered something is JH ear..looked kinda weird and awesome...BB usually doesn't do that to other coaches

I keep hearing about this but must have missed it live. Probably not but is there a video?
totally coached kaep to throw that int
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by cciowa:
did not understand anything about playcalling in the second half and could not figure out why we stopped attacking on defense

Our pass rush got tired, got less and less effective with the fatigue. With no pressure, Brady picked us apart.

Why did our pass rush get tired?

1. Our offense had three straight 3 and outs, and barely let the D even sit down before they had to go back out there and deal with Brady.
2. Brady was no-huddling and not even waiting for them to line up. It's the Chip Kelly offense.

People who are acting like the offense was fine in this game are totally missing the point. The offense never once helped the D. The Niners remain a team which leans heavily on the D to keep the other team at bay, and turn them over as well. The offense got 4 of their 5 TDs on a short field provided by the defense or special teams. Only the first TD drive was an actual sustained full length of field drive.
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I agree with Kray mostly from previous page, as he posits "was it the players getting tired on D or was it the play calling?". Well, yeah, the players on D DID get tired, and who the heck wouldn't had you been played 400 yds of D in the last qtr. So sure, the D got tired. The O, didn't tho, because they were on the field for 3 runs of 2-3 yds each, and then punted. So the O had plenty of gas left. As for the playcalling in the 4th qtr as Brady rolled up a good part of his 450 yds of O, the responsibility here was coaching ,and folks it was ALL BAD. Once JH had that 28 pt lead, he called off the tight man coverage, played loose underneath, literally giving welker and gronk the 5-7 and 10-12 yd passes. Incredibly, COach H did that while watching brady score 28 pts in about 10 minutes.

His O calling was all bread and butter, 3 runs and punt. Those were all answered with a brady led TD. Coach's D calls were all "play not to lose", and we gave up huge chunks every play, with 4 TDs in roughly 10 minutes. When it was 31 all, Coach H somehow awoke from his trance, called a passing play after LMJ had just busted a 62 yd kickoff return. Then Coach went with a high hard one to Crabs, who snagged it, put on a great move and raced into EZ for TD. It was our 3rd 1 play TD of the night. Bizarre. Then when NE got the ball back, we stopped them with the return of the tight coverage, and Harbaugh was suddenly again playing to win.

Perhaps the fact that after our last 3 and out, Brady scored in 1min 6 seconds. Maybe THAT was what woke him up, and when we got LMJs return to the 38 of NE, 1st play call was....a dart to crabs. When we again kicked off, this time we played tight coverage, pushed the rush, and stopped brady at the 30 , where bellicheat went for 3 pts and an onsides kick. The rest is history....but this is a tale of a Coach , supremely well prepared , as was his team, who got the surprising big lead and then put O and D in neutral. During his post game , Harbaw looked like he was stunned, mumbled something about overcoming adversity...but at the end of the nite, upon reflection, Jim Harbaugh got a great look at what happens when you get a lead, big or small at end of game, and then just flat azz try to run out the clock.

He learned ( i hope) the lesson. DO NOT EVERY TAKE YOUR FOOT OFF THEIR THROATS. It would be something he might want to remember against the seahawks, should we be lucky to get a lead on them. Again, PLAYING NOT TO LOSE....always causes a loss...except in this case where he had a 28 pt lead disappear in 10 minutes. I truly believe he was stunned, and for a guy who seemingly has a hard time learning this on both O and D, hopefully this is a lesson he remembers into eternity.

As to Kray's point, players did get tired, but 98% of that was incredibly crappy coaching. And now JH knows. Let's hope he doesn't forget this one.
We have been doing this time and time again this season. Even in Week 1 against GB, we took a 2 possession lead, only to watch our coaches get lax eith the prevent D, allowing GB to get back into it.

Amazing that we let Brady drive 4 times with the same s**tty playcalling. Hope this is a lesson learned for both the offensive and defensive coaches. Stepping on someone's throat doesnt always win you the game. Sometimes you just gotta break the neck. Shoulda/woulda/coulda scored 40 easy before Brady gets his 1st TD pass last night. Instead, we let him dink and dunk underneath all throughout the second half.

He passed for 450 yards, on 65 attempts = averaging 4.9 yards per pass

Kaep only passed for 220 yards, on 25 attempts = averaging 5.5 yards per pass.

Cant allow that type of foolishness again.
Originally posted by kray28:
Our pass rush got tired, got less and less effective with the fatigue. With no pressure, Brady picked us apart.

Why did our pass rush get tired?

1. Our offense had three straight 3 and outs, and barely let the D even sit down before they had to go back out there and deal with Brady.
2. Brady was no-huddling and not even waiting for them to line up. It's the Chip Kelly offense.

People who are acting like the offense was fine in this game are totally missing the point. The offense never once helped the D. The Niners remain a team which leans heavily on the D to keep the other team at bay, and turn them over as well. The offense got 4 of their 5 TDs on a short field provided by the defense or special teams. Only the first TD drive was an actual sustained full length of field drive.

Or, what if Fangio has Brady on his FF team and needed the points to win his league? Just a thought...
D went full retard in the 2nd half.. Announcers were even confused as to why we switched from man to zone
1st Half of Super Bowl XXIV begs to differ
Did I miss something last night? 25 worst coached minutes in 49ers history? Did we lose the Super Bowl last night? No wait, we won!

Sorry but those 25 minutes were better than anything Nolan, Singeltary or Dennis Erickson produced in those 9 years. There is a reason why Brady is a future HOF'er. He's a great QB. Was it stupid to go into the prevent crap? Yes. When the game was on the line we made plays.

God it's good to be a 49er fan!
I used to be horrified that we might lose Roman to a HC gig, but I'm starting to want to see if some fresh blood at OC would be a better combination with Harbaugh and Fangio and improve our consistency on offense.

Plus, it sounds like Roman getting a HC gig--depending on the team--might be our best way to find a trade partner for Alex Smith.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
D went full retard in the 2nd half.. Announcers were even confused as to why we switched from man to zone

It was so impressive how we beat them up in Man when last week on MNF all everyone was saying was how bad the Texans were being torched and that Brady always torches man coverage. Was interesting hearing Brady say on soundtracks "We Have to play PERFECT!" He knew what our Defense could bring, couple Justin going out and being in a softer zone prevent D, and just a great QB going full throttle with our offense not burning any clock or continuing drives, and its a little understandable.

But i was upset the O could not just pick up a few first downs after that, Roman needs to learn how to do something besides run when leading by two scores or more, you will still have to pass to win, especially against these new pass happy up tempo Offenses.
Notice I said 25 mins of last half. Coach did wake up, realize his precious 28 pts had vaporized and answered the bell. His calls the last 4min:55 seconds were equally good with the first half. And yes, anything JH does is way better than ericson, noln or BM. But for 25 mins in the 2nd half, it really looked like he was working out of the noln/ericson/BM playbook. Great thing is he woke up. But the interview he gave at game's end showed a guy who was still in a trance. Look at the tape. All we need to know is that our Coach had the game plan, had his guys ready, played and coached phenomenally, and then did the zombie trance. Fortunately, with 28 pt lead, he was able to recover just before the PATs took it back from us. I hope this was a "teaching moment in a teaching game.".