Cully on welker
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Brown and Cully imo are most effective on the outside. They are faster and more athletic than Rogers so they usually cover the WRs that go deep. Cully made incredible plays the last game which could of been explosive touchdowns had Rogers been the one in coverage.
The slot WR on the other hand will get his catches vs Rogers, but then automatically gang tackled by a swarming defense. So it's basically Fangio picking the weaker poison.
Originally posted by Squidp:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Brown and Cully imo are most effective on the outside. They are faster and more athletic than Rogers so they usually cover the WRs that go deep. Cully made incredible plays the last game which could of been explosive touchdowns had Rogers been the one in coverage.
The slot WR on the other hand will get his catches vs Rogers, but then automatically gang tackled by a swarming defense. So it's basically Fangio picking the weaker poison.
No. The slot position is the toughest to guard bc you dont have the sideline to help and your are typically matched against the quickest wideout. Rogers is our best cover man and is more fluid in and out of breaks than Culliver or TB and thats why he plays the slot
Originally posted by Squidp:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Brown and Cully imo are most effective on the outside. They are faster and more athletic than Rogers so they usually cover the WRs that go deep. Cully made incredible plays the last game which could of been explosive touchdowns had Rogers been the one in coverage.
The slot WR on the other hand will get his catches vs Rogers, but then automatically gang tackled by a swarming defense. So it's basically Fangio picking the weaker poison.
No. The slot position is the toughest to guard bc you dont have the sideline to help and your are typically matched against the quickest wideout. Rogers is our best cover man and is more fluid in and out of breaks than Culliver or TB and thats why he plays the slot
Originally posted by sfout:
Culliver theoretically can play the slot because he is that talented but as its been reported, he is our biggest, most physical CB and can out muscle the bigger WRs and stick with the top players like Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, etc. so taking him away from guarding players like that and to mention the Giants I'd rather have Cully on Randle or Nicks and TB or Rogers on Cruz where as verb1der says then the slot WR gets gang tackled.
Rogers is the most nimble and quick of the 3 CBs and he's played both inside and outside his whole career. problem is he is slowing with age IMHO but typically after half time when he has time to digest and adjust he attempts to play a step ahead of the WR (see Victor Cruz nearly 100 yards in the first half on a ton of targets and completions then in the 2nd half he had like 30-40 yards on multiple targets but minimal catches.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Squidp:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Brown and Cully imo are most effective on the outside. They are faster and more athletic than Rogers so they usually cover the WRs that go deep. Cully made incredible plays the last game which could of been explosive touchdowns had Rogers been the one in coverage.
The slot WR on the other hand will get his catches vs Rogers, but then automatically gang tackled by a swarming defense. So it's basically Fangio picking the weaker poison.
No. The slot position is the toughest to guard bc you dont have the sideline to help and your are typically matched against the quickest wideout. Rogers is our best cover man and is more fluid in and out of breaks than Culliver or TB and thats why he plays the slot
If Rogers is really the best cover man like you say he is, then Fangio would place him on an island and take away a huge portion of the field. Culliver is doing just that, if you haven't noticed.
Originally posted by ruthless49er:
Originally posted by sfout:
Culliver theoretically can play the slot because he is that talented but as its been reported, he is our biggest, most physical CB and can out muscle the bigger WRs and stick with the top players like Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, etc. so taking him away from guarding players like that and to mention the Giants I'd rather have Cully on Randle or Nicks and TB or Rogers on Cruz where as verb1der says then the slot WR gets gang tackled.
Rogers is the most nimble and quick of the 3 CBs and he's played both inside and outside his whole career. problem is he is slowing with age IMHO but typically after half time when he has time to digest and adjust he attempts to play a step ahead of the WR (see Victor Cruz nearly 100 yards in the first half on a ton of targets and completions then in the 2nd half he had like 30-40 yards on multiple targets but minimal catches.
this. its why Seattles bigger corners have problems against Amedola types. you need someone with fluid hips , change of direction with quick feet. Cully is a beast but he can get flat footed when guys make cuts
Originally posted by verb1der:
If Rogers is really the best cover man like you say he is, then Fangio would place him on an island and take away a huge portion of the field. Culliver is doing just that, if you haven't noticed.
Originally posted by sspiker:
We should be looking for a nickel CB with one of our first 4 picks this draft, to compete with Cox and Rogers.
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by verb1der:
If Rogers is really the best cover man like you say he is, then Fangio would place him on an island and take away a huge portion of the field. Culliver is doing just that, if you haven't noticed.
The corner covering the slot also gets allot more help from the safeties by going with underneath coverage. This give Rogers more wiggle room with mistakes, staying stride for stride isn't as important as getting in between the QB and the receiver.