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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS MIAMI DOLPHINS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 14)

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I agree. Give him props for the plays he did make, but Kaepernick didn't throw deep any more often today than Alex typically does. I think the little deep plays Kaepernick does get only stand out more because he's a new, exciting player.

Not too many, but man that pass to Moss was spot on . . .
Originally posted by bors:
didnt miami beat seattle 3weeks ago...just sayin

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Originally posted by Sf49ers303:
Originally posted by bors:
didnt miami beat seattle 3weeks ago...just sayin

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thank you...but oh wait seattle was on the road so its ok for them to lose to the dolphins..but us beating this isnt good enough
point is any week any team can win just be happy with the W and hope we keep improving
VD - 1 for 4yds. Unchain the man! Shades of Crabtree in the NFCCG -- 1 for 3 yds.

Crabs got himself a good game today doe.
Purdy hits it spot on in this article:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mark-purdy/ci_22158379/purdy-good-and-bad-from-49ers-27-13

Alex is Captain Checkdown, and often gave up on the deep routes too fast. Kap is exactly the opposite. He stares downfield far too long and never looks for the checkdown, which leads to sacks.
[ Edited by baltien on Dec 9, 2012 at 5:16 PM ]
Originally posted by Bryant4everYoung:
Originally posted by RogerCraig:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Crabs looked good today as did Gore (not enough touches) LMJ looked ok. Vernon is a non factor of late and Jenkins did not even see the field. Play calling stunk special teams special on one play then terrible the next. Defense looks tired of late (they have been on the field a lot,) Harbaugh doesn't know how or when to use the challenge and needs to do something about all the penalties. Piss poor on 3rd down. Just my take on the team right now.

Play calling was abysmal.
Some one needs to go and burn Jimmy Rayes old playbook Roman keeps referencing back to.
I will add Clock management to my list of poor things. Also are o-line is at it's best when we first establish the run then mix in the play action pass. They were making running lanes as Frank averaged over 5 yards per carry.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
VD - 1 for 4yds. Unchain the man! Shades of Crabtree in the NFCCG -- 1 for 3 yds.

Crabs got himself a good game today doe.

Much as I hate to say it, VD's lack of involvement seems to stem from unimaginative playcalling. Unless it's a wheel route or a shallow cross, we just don't seem to know how to get him involved.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Sea cant win away from their home

True but 2 of their last 3 games are at home. Lynch is running hard and their D is playing well. We need to get our O going before our trip to Seattle in 2 weeks
Originally posted by baltien:
Purdy hits it spot on in this article:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mark-purdy/ci_22158379/purdy-good-and-bad-from-49ers-27-13

Alex is Captain Checkdown, and often gave up on the deep routes too fast. Kap is exactly the opposite. He stares downfield far too long and never looks for the checkdown, which leads to sacks.

Pretty much what I said on the Zone right after the game. Dude must be seeing what I'm seeing out of Kaep.
Originally posted by Niners6262:
True but 2 of their last 3 games are at home. Lynch is running hard and their D is playing well. We need to get our O going before our trip to Seattle in 2 weeks

I think we beat them. Wilson is good, but implodes against any halfway decent D. Shut down Lynch, and I don't see him making enough plays to to snag the dub.
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
VD - 1 for 4yds. Unchain the man! Shades of Crabtree in the NFCCG -- 1 for 3 yds.

Crabs got himself a good game today doe.

Much as I hate to say it, VD's lack of involvement seems to stem from unimaginative playcalling. Unless it's a wheel route or a shallow cross, we just don't seem to know how to get him involved.

Put him in motion. But we tend to have D. Walker for that. It's Walkers' fault

Anytime VD goes in motion it's a good chance he's going out for a pass. But when Walker goes in motion, he could very well be blocking. Hiding the offense' intention is the idea, and having Walker do the little things seemed to be better for the offense at that. Still-- they have to try to get VD involved.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Not too mention, if some say unreasonable is the term for today then i ask this. and please anyone answer.

Kaep hasnt thrown a TD pass to a Receiver in the past two weeks. yardage is cool, and not knocking any of it, but where are the Td's. Last week a late run, and he played great. This time again last minutes, after the D made a stop. Gore just helped us get another TD. and he scored a TD in what some used to say with Smith, garbage time.

When was the last time, Smith out of 2.5 games, threw no Td's to our WR's and we were all, lets celebrate for the sake of the team. I mean thats horses**t.

We didnt except mediocrity before, and I aint now. He has had no td's in the last 2 games. That is unacceptable, and i dont care if he broke the league and 49ers qB running record.

Point is, he is regressing, in the fact of, less deep balls being thrown. Supposed to have that quick foot, and take no sacks. And even the announcers in the game today, where like he needs to get the ball down the field. Thats why he's in there.

Just saying, give the guy his props for doing what he did do. But i see no big passing plays, and deep throws, ever since teams can now prepare for him. And quiet as kept. IMHO, Kaep doesnt scare anyone just yet either.

I agree. Give him props for the plays he did make, but Kaepernick didn't throw deep any more often today than Alex typically does. I think the little deep plays Kaepernick does get only stand out more because he's a new, exciting player.

For example he had that deep miss to moss. Which i was praying he would of caught that by the way. But there arent more like that. Last week in the loss we kept talking about the pass to Delanie. But ok just two passes, should of been a reason to say he's arrived. I mean Kaep aint bad, but to be honest, he's more inconsistent than Smith is, and at least he put up at least 1 passing TD a game. He is exciting, but now im getting a feeling like some of that is dying. With our fan base, with reporters who follow our team, and with commentators and our own HOF's.

After today's win, i heard at least 3 times before the program ended. That the experiment should end, and Smith needs to be back there. now is not the time.

We won today, but we gotta put it in perspective just like we did with Qb's in the past.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SneakySniper:
I do not get what everyone is complaining about, we won, and it was not an "ugly" win like some of you make it out to be.

Just because a football team is weaker on paper and on the stat sheets does not mean it is going to be a cakewalk for a statistically better team (see Carolina Panthers vs Atlanta Falcons).

Kaepernick had a decent game too, and I think you guys are overlooking many of the good things he does just for the sake of criticism. Look at the chemistry he shows with his receivers, Crabtree for example with 100 yard games the last 3 weeks. He has a GREAT accuracy, and lets not forget a pinpoint deep ball, which is clearly better than Smith's (come on, admit it). And he could run! Quarterbacks that could use their legs if necessary are becoming the future of the league, just look at RGIII, Luck, Newton.

Just stop complaining and be happy we won, nothing is guaranteed. I agree that Miami does not seem like a great test of ability on paper, but they are no push-over either.

Cannot wait for New England next week!
the bad come close to outweighing the good in this game. you may be ok with alls well that ends well but we are not an elite team, we are not playing anywhere close to the level that the pats and hawks are playing at. our hold on the division is shaky,, at best
Yup, we are definitely not elite. We have real issues that scare me against any truly elite, who we'll meet in the playoffs. I'm not as optimistic as I was before.

Everyone's getting better, we are not.
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by Niners6262:
True but 2 of their last 3 games are at home. Lynch is running hard and their D is playing well. We need to get our O going before our trip to Seattle in 2 weeks

I think we beat them. Wilson is good, but implodes against any halfway decent D. Shut down Lynch, and I don't see him making enough plays to to snag the dub.