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What has happened to Carlos Rogers?

Rogers has not been helped by being asked to play so far off with the cushions.. for one thing. The other falls squarely on him. His footwork has been sloppy, and his plant and go is slow, clumsy.. poor balance. He's been playing like he's 6' 5" tall... looks like Mike Rumph out there. WR puts a double move on him and he looks like he's rowing a boat when trying to flip, plant, and go. He needs to play on the outside, and even that may be too much for him.
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.
any cap savings if we cut him next year ?
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.
All the pressure last year made Rodgers look better than he is. He's a solid/average corner that will get beat. One week he looks good vs Welker and the following week he can't cover the slot at all. But the D line is more of a priority than corner.
I could be missing something but isn't there a "CR is overrated" thread already?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.


he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.


he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.


he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that

Yep...It all starts up front.

Edit: If we get pressure it will mask the secondary into looking amazing.
[ Edited by TexasGuero49 on Dec 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.


he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that


true but at 7 mill/yr you are graded on a tougher scale
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the slot is the most hardest positions to cover doe..any other CB we have would be no different.


he got absolutley torched vs Seattle at least 4-5 times.
No pressure from the Dline will do that


true but at 7 mill/yr you are graded on a tougher scale

now that cant be argued !
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...


i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...


i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.
injuries tend to come in bunches..we need starting caliber Dline..we already have good back ups
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
This guy is the most overrated player on our team. He is making big money to get torched alot. If we dont for some dumb reason re-sign Goldson, then we are in trouble on D. Rogers is a decent CB on a great defense. Culliver is better and I would say Cox is just as good as a cover corner and tackler. Goldson is elite, And we have to bring him back to contend. Trade Alex/Rogers (free up 12-14 mill). Pay Goldson 4yrs/32mill and draft a CB in the late 1st round.

CB Brown 1st Roundpick
CB Culliver Cox (#5FA pickup)
FS Goldson Robinson/M.Thomas
SS Whitner Spillman

I also think M.Thomas will make the final 53 next year and Brock is garbage also.

I like it but would rather go D-line first round...


i think we need depth at Dline, but not any starters. Justin has at least 3 good years left and Soap i would say 2 more. RayMac is solid. Ian Williams i like alot and Tukuafu is reliable. IMO Dobbs is overrated and could use a Watt type in his spot to spell Justin in the future.


ya most teams could use a 20 sack 5 technique, i've seen one in my time watching football, you?