Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Funny how Belichick's genius didn't apply to the Browns, or to Drew Bledsoe. What a coincidence that Brady strongly supports the only NFL coach he has ever played for. Who would have thought? Let's see how Belichicks other protege's develop. Matt Cassel, hmm... not exactly playing like Joe Montana did when he left his team and went to the Chiefs.
How about Andrew Luck? Not doing too bad. I wonder who developed him?
Josh Johnson holds the NCAA Division I record for highest career passer efficiency at 176.68.
Hmm... I wonder who Belichick has "developed" at quarterback in his entire career besides Tom Brady? The same Tom Brady who Belichick obviously knew would be a great one, since he selected him all the way up in the 6th round. Nope. Can't actually think of any. Perhaps in time Belichick will win the lottery again, just to prove that he can do it twice.
lol why do you talk/type like that?
You notice Matt Cassel had a great year under Belichick and sucked AFTER he left? The Pats went 11-5 with Cassel lol Belichick made him look like a pro bowl QB. He was very good with Belichick and sucked without him.
And there's a reason Brady was a 6th round pick. He wasn't a great QB coming out of the draft. He wasn't even great right away. Belichick made him great over the years
You don't make any sense.
Belichick made Brady great, and there's nothing you can say to change my mind
And lol at "winning the lottery." To say Brady made Belichick is dumb.
Also, I never said Harbaugh wasn't a great coach, I'm not arguing that at all.
Belichick is a good NFL coach, but some call him a "genius". That is the only gripe I have with Belichick.
Belichick's record with the Browns:
1991 -- 6 - 10
1992 -- 7 - 9
1993 -- 7 - 9
1994 -- 11 - 5
1995 -- 5 - 11
Belichick's record with the Patriots:
2000 -- 5 - 11
2001 -- 11 - 5 (Brady becomes his quarterback)
2002 -- 9 - 7
2003 -- 14 - 2
2004 -- 14 - 2
2005 -- 10 - 6
2006 -- 12 - 4
2007 -- 16 - 0
2008 -- 11 - 5 (Matt Cassel)
2009 -- 10 - 6
2010 -- 14 - 2
2011 -- 13 - 3
Is this the track record of a "genius"?
Bill Walsh was involved with Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Steve Bono, Elvis Grback. Two Hall-of-Famers, a multi-Pro Bowl selection, and two players who played well enough for other teams to try them out as free agent starters.
Walsh scouted, pursued, and/or helped coach most of these guys. They didn't just fall into his lap. Walsh is one of the few coaches who can be called a "genius".
Harbaugh is starting off his young career with a similar track record with winning records and quarterback success.
Belichick's track record is nothing remotely similar to either Walsh or Harbaugh, and therefore he cannot be considered a "genius". A good coach perhaps, but not a "genius". That is my only point.
[ Edited by BrianGO on Nov 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM ]