Easy....the niners have the number one d in points allowed and third in yards allowed. Better than the bears. Also, turnovers are great but the purpose of them is to stop the other team from scoring and the bears are behind the niners in yards and points. So the bears arguement is done right there. Throw in cutler has more turnovers than tds even with Marshall.....Alex smith is a better qb this year rating and decision making, less ints and more tds.
As far as the giants, they are a good team but you could say Eli sucks the past 3 to 4 games WITH Cruz and nicks.......no tds and 4 ints.
We actually played good teams when healthy like gb sea and we beat down teams like no other this year.......no tds in 4 of the last 5 before the rams. No other defense could of done that.....not the bears. You see turnovers are nice but allowing tenn to score 20 is not a niner defense.....or playing s**tty teams like ind week one, jax det tenn and so on. Hell the only good teams the bears played they got smoked by gb without Jennings and looked awful against Houston. So the bears fan can't talk. You might want to mention urlacher got RUN OVER by a BACKUP TE last week
Leave it to me to handle and win these arguments